Hello,
Can someone tell me where to find a water sealant that is
activated by rushing water?
Well not exactly white-water rapids, nor"rushing" all the
time; sometimes it slows down. I would like to think of what i
want to do as an above-ground swimming pool. What i mean
is if they can make above-ground swimming pools, then i can
make an above-ground well for a sump pump. The only
problem is itis wet and moving water all the time (sort of like
a spigot you cannot turn off - i think itis a spring, or at least it
acts like one, so if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a
duck, lets call it a duck anyway). All i want is a quick fix for
now, and later i can rebuild the basement.

I can get some of the floor area dried up to a dampness, while
holding the moving water in a massive about of towels for a
few minutes. At that point i would like to "glue" something to
the floor to begin the building of the little wall of the well (i
only need one, maybe two walls, depending how much of the
wall-to-floor actually leaks ), bricks are easier to handle than
cinder blocks so i guess that is what i want to build my well
with - maybe i should use square-cut rocks? I may only need
about less than a foot high, because i saw a sump pump that
does from 1/8" up, however it maynot be automatic. In that
case iwill have to go higher with my wall to accommodate the
sump pump.

This (so far) is only a few feet of space i will need for the
well. Right now iam handling the mini flood with a "sponge"
pump, set at the point where the water puddles at a low spot
on the basement floor; this is then hosed to the floor drain.
The puddling only amounts to about or less than 1/8' depth, so
i have to go in there and turn on the "spunge" many times a
day. That is why i would like to get more depth to the water so
that i can install an automatic, sump pump.

I know what youare thinking so iwill answer it right now: If i
donot pump the water, through a hose, to the drain, the well-
trained, little stream runs somewhat along 3 walls, having
started at the first wall; very close to a corner; around the
corner of a 3rd wall; to the room with the drain; back up the
other side of the wall 3, about 3 or so feet from wall 3, and
continues right on into the drain all by its cute, little 'ole self -
scary to say the least . . . since it obediently puddles at wall 3
before taking off for its trip around the wall to the other room,
and back up the other side of the wall 3 to the drain, i like to
keep it retained in that one room instead of letting it wet both
rooms of the basement.

Another thing about the above-ground thingy is the cat drinks
the spring water, and i would like to train the dog to do
likewise so that i donot have to be bothered with slimy water
dishes all the time. The cat always used to demand to be
watered at the sink from the faucet; then she would shake, and
splash germs all over the sink area, then i would have to Lysol
spray the sink area (What a mess of unnecessary activity), so
iam very pleased she drinks from the spring. My husband said
she is the first cat he ever saw walk on water, but i named her
Pinky anyway (:

Truly

Harry wrote:
Hello,
Can someone tell me where to find a water sealant that is
activated by rushing water?
Well not exactly white-water rapids, nor"rushing" all the
time; sometimes it slows down. I would like to think of what i
want to do as an above-ground swimming pool. What i mean
is if they can make above-ground swimming pools, then i can
make an above-ground well for a sump pump. The only
problem is itis wet and moving water all the time (sort of like
a spigot you cannot turn off - i think itis a spring, or at least it
acts like one, so if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a
duck, lets call it a duck anyway). All i want is a quick fix for
now, and later i can rebuild the basement.

I can get some of the floor area dried up to a dampness, while
holding the moving water in a massive about of towels for a
few minutes. At that point i would like to "glue" something to
the floor to begin the building of the little wall of the well (i
only need one, maybe two walls, depending how much of the
wall-to-floor actually leaks ), bricks are easier to handle than
cinder blocks so i guess that is what i want to build my well
with - maybe i should use square-cut rocks? I may only need
about less than a foot high, because i saw a sump pump that
does from 1/8" up, however it maynot be automatic. In that
case iwill have to go higher with my wall to accommodate the
sump pump.

This (so far) is only a few feet of space i will need for the
well. Right now iam handling the mini flood with a "sponge"
pump, set at the point where the water puddles at a low spot
on the basement floor; this is then hosed to the floor drain.
The puddling only amounts to about or less than 1/8' depth, so
i have to go in there and turn on the "spunge" many times a
day. That is why i would like to get more depth to the water so
that i can install an automatic, sump pump.

I know what youare thinking so iwill answer it right now: If i
donot pump the water, through a hose, to the drain, the well-
trained, little stream runs somewhat along 3 walls, having
started at the first wall; very close to a corner; around the
corner of a 3rd wall; to the room with the drain; back up the
other side of the wall 3, about 3 or so feet from wall 3, and
continues right on into the drain all by its cute, little 'ole self -
scary to say the least . . . since it obediently puddles at wall 3
before taking off for its trip around the wall to the other room,
and back up the other side of the wall 3 to the drain, i like to
keep it retained in that one room instead of letting it wet both
rooms of the basement.

Another thing about the above-ground thingy is the cat drinks
the spring water, and i would like to train the dog to do
likewise so that i donot have to be bothered with slimy water
dishes all the time. The cat always used to demand to be
watered at the sink from the faucet; then she would shake, and
splash germs all over the sink area, then i would have to Lysol
spray the sink area (What a mess of unnecessary activity), so
iam very pleased she drinks from the spring. My husband said
she is the first cat he ever saw walk on water, but i named her
Pinky anyway (:

Truly

I'm not sure that I follow the description of your problem 100%, but I
think I know the answer. Go to any home center or good hardware store
and get "hydraulic cement". Just ask for it, they'll point you in the
right direction. It is a very quick drying cement that will dry in wet
conditions, even under water. Just mix with water, plug the hole, and
hold in place. Might not look good of 1st effort but add some more
later to smooth it out when you're done.

Good luck.

Harry wrote:
Hello,
Can someone tell me where to find a water sealant that is
activated by rushing water?


post snipped.

This post is really confusing, but i think i understand. you have a
leak in your basement and would like to plug the leak, but you also
want to keep the leak so you can water your pets with a sump pump
arangement.

First, I'd compeletly plug the leak, hydraulic cement should do, and
can be found in most hardware stores.

second, drill a hole in your basement wall andstick a pipe in the hole,
sealed with hydraulic cement, to allow you to have a spigot.

also, the leak you describe might be called a seep.

Do what the cat tells you to do.
It is only by her grace that you are allowed to live there. ;-)

Seriously, be concerned with contaminents and minerals in the water.
Cats are suceptable to *crystals* in their kidneys and bladders.
Very painful, expensive and can kill the cat.


"Harry" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello,
Can someone tell me where to find a water sealant that is
activated by rushing water?
Well not exactly white-water rapids, nor"rushing" all the
time; sometimes it slows down. I would like to think of what i
want to do as an above-ground swimming pool. What i mean
is if they can make above-ground swimming pools, then i can
make an above-ground well for a sump pump. The only
problem is itis wet and moving water all the time (sort of like
a spigot you cannot turn off - i think itis a spring, or at least it
acts like one, so if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a
duck, lets call it a duck anyway). All i want is a quick fix for
now, and later i can rebuild the basement.

I can get some of the floor area dried up to a dampness, while
holding the moving water in a massive about of towels for a
few minutes. At that point i would like to "glue" something to
the floor to begin the building of the little wall of the well (i
only need one, maybe two walls, depending how much of the
wall-to-floor actually leaks ), bricks are easier to handle than
cinder blocks so i guess that is what i want to build my well
with - maybe i should use square-cut rocks? I may only need
about less than a foot high, because i saw a sump pump that
does from 1/8" up, however it maynot be automatic. In that
case iwill have to go higher with my wall to accommodate the
sump pump.

This (so far) is only a few feet of space i will need for the
well. Right now iam handling the mini flood with a "sponge"
pump, set at the point where the water puddles at a low spot
on the basement floor; this is then hosed to the floor drain.
The puddling only amounts to about or less than 1/8' depth, so
i have to go in there and turn on the "spunge" many times a
day. That is why i would like to get more depth to the water so
that i can install an automatic, sump pump.

I know what youare thinking so iwill answer it right now: If i
donot pump the water, through a hose, to the drain, the well-
trained, little stream runs somewhat along 3 walls, having
started at the first wall; very close to a corner; around the
corner of a 3rd wall; to the room with the drain; back up the
other side of the wall 3, about 3 or so feet from wall 3, and
continues right on into the drain all by its cute, little 'ole self -
scary to say the least . . . since it obediently puddles at wall 3
before taking off for its trip around the wall to the other room,
and back up the other side of the wall 3 to the drain, i like to
keep it retained in that one room instead of letting it wet both
rooms of the basement.

Another thing about the above-ground thingy is the cat drinks
the spring water, and i would like to train the dog to do
likewise so that i donot have to be bothered with slimy water
dishes all the time. The cat always used to demand to be
watered at the sink from the faucet; then she would shake, and
splash germs all over the sink area, then i would have to Lysol
spray the sink area (What a mess of unnecessary activity), so
iam very pleased she drinks from the spring. My husband said
she is the first cat he ever saw walk on water, but i named her
Pinky anyway (:

Truly

"Tater" wrote
Harry wrote:
Hello,
Can someone tell me where to find a water sealant that is
activated by rushing water?


post snipped.

This post is really confusing, but i think i understand. you have a
leak in your basement and would like to plug the leak, but you also
want to keep the leak so you can water your pets with a sump pump
arangement.

First, I'd compeletly plug the leak, hydraulic cement should do, and
can be found in most hardware stores.

second, drill a hole in your basement wall andstick a pipe in the hole,
sealed with hydraulic cement, to allow you to have a spigot.

also, the leak you describe might be called a seep.

Isn't the leak symptomatic of another problem?
In other words, if he plugs the leak, it will just reappear elsewhere?
Off the top of my skall it seems that altering the source of where the water
intrusion intersects the basement wall, ie., drains (perforated pipes) will
cause the water to go elsewhere than the wall?
Thats what they did on my house and it seems to keep the inside dry....so
far.

Tater wrote:
Harry wrote:
Hello,
Can someone tell me where to find a water sealant that is
activated by rushing water?


post snipped.

This post is really confusing, but i think i understand. you have a
leak in your basement and would like to plug the leak, but you also
want to keep the leak so you can water your pets with a sump pump
arangement.

First, I'd compeletly plug the leak, hydraulic cement should do, and
can be found in most hardware stores.

second, drill a hole in your basement wall andstick a pipe in the hole,
sealed with hydraulic cement, to allow you to have a spigot.

also, the leak you describe might be called a seep.

O.P. should have water tested before feeding pets.
TB

Harry wrote:
Hello,
Can someone tell me where to find a water sealant that is
activated by rushing water?
Well not exactly white-water rapids, nor"rushing" all the
time; sometimes it slows down. I would like to think of what i
want to do as an above-ground swimming pool. What i mean
is if they can make above-ground swimming pools, then i can
make an above-ground well for a sump pump. The only
problem is itis wet and moving water all the time (sort of like
a spigot you cannot turn off - i think itis a spring, or at least it
acts like one, so if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a
duck, lets call it a duck anyway). All i want is a quick fix for
now, and later i can rebuild the basement.

I can get some of the floor area dried up to a dampness, while
holding the moving water in a massive about of towels for a
few minutes. At that point i would like to "glue" something to
the floor to begin the building of the little wall of the well (i
only need one, maybe two walls, depending how much of the
wall-to-floor actually leaks ), bricks are easier to handle than
cinder blocks so i guess that is what i want to build my well
with - maybe i should use square-cut rocks? I may only need
about less than a foot high, because i saw a sump pump that
does from 1/8" up, however it maynot be automatic. In that
case iwill have to go higher with my wall to accommodate the
sump pump.

This (so far) is only a few feet of space i will need for the
well. Right now iam handling the mini flood with a "sponge"
pump, set at the point where the water puddles at a low spot
on the basement floor; this is then hosed to the floor drain.
The puddling only amounts to about or less than 1/8' depth, so
i have to go in there and turn on the "spunge" many times a
day. That is why i would like to get more depth to the water so
that i can install an automatic, sump pump.

I know what youare thinking so iwill answer it right now: If i
donot pump the water, through a hose, to the drain, the well-
trained, little stream runs somewhat along 3 walls, having
started at the first wall; very close to a corner; around the
corner of a 3rd wall; to the room with the drain; back up the
other side of the wall 3, about 3 or so feet from wall 3, and
continues right on into the drain all by its cute, little 'ole self -
scary to say the least . . . since it obediently puddles at wall 3
before taking off for its trip around the wall to the other room,
and back up the other side of the wall 3 to the drain, i like to
keep it retained in that one room instead of letting it wet both
rooms of the basement.

Another thing about the above-ground thingy is the cat drinks
the spring water, and i would like to train the dog to do
likewise so that i donot have to be bothered with slimy water
dishes all the time. The cat always used to demand to be
watered at the sink from the faucet; then she would shake, and
splash germs all over the sink area, then i would have to Lysol
spray the sink area (What a mess of unnecessary activity), so
iam very pleased she drinks from the spring. My husband said
she is the first cat he ever saw walk on water, but i named her
Pinky anyway (:

Truly

Harry

Once you have the water plugged, you'll still probably have a wet
basement. So you and your husband should take a couple of weekend and
paint the walls with Drylok. It's a bit bit thick so it's harder to
use than paint, but not too bad. When you go to the home center or
hardware store, pick up a few gallons. You don't get much coverage
per gallon, but it's worth it.

Pat wrote:
Harry wrote:
Hello,
Can someone tell me where to find a water sealant that is
activated by rushing water?
Well not exactly white-water rapids, nor"rushing" all the
time; sometimes it slows down. I would like to think of what i
want to do as an above-ground swimming pool. What i mean
is if they can make above-ground swimming pools, then i can
make an above-ground well for a sump pump. The only
problem is itis wet and moving water all the time (sort of like
a spigot you cannot turn off - i think itis a spring, or at least it
acts like one, so if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a
duck, lets call it a duck anyway). All i want is a quick fix for
now, and later i can rebuild the basement.

I can get some of the floor area dried up to a dampness, while
holding the moving water in a massive about of towels for a
few minutes. At that point i would like to "glue" something to
the floor to begin the building of the little wall of the well (i
only need one, maybe two walls, depending how much of the
wall-to-floor actually leaks ), bricks are easier to handle than
cinder blocks so i guess that is what i want to build my well
with - maybe i should use square-cut rocks? I may only need
about less than a foot high, because i saw a sump pump that
does from 1/8" up, however it maynot be automatic. In that
case iwill have to go higher with my wall to accommodate the
sump pump.

This (so far) is only a few feet of space i will need for the
well. Right now iam handling the mini flood with a "sponge"
pump, set at the point where the water puddles at a low spot
on the basement floor; this is then hosed to the floor drain.
The puddling only amounts to about or less than 1/8' depth, so
i have to go in there and turn on the "spunge" many times a
day. That is why i would like to get more depth to the water so
that i can install an automatic, sump pump.

I know what youare thinking so iwill answer it right now: If i
donot pump the water, through a hose, to the drain, the well-
trained, little stream runs somewhat along 3 walls, having
started at the first wall; very close to a corner; around the
corner of a 3rd wall; to the room with the drain; back up the
other side of the wall 3, about 3 or so feet from wall 3, and
continues right on into the drain all by its cute, little 'ole self -
scary to say the least . . . since it obediently puddles at wall 3
before taking off for its trip around the wall to the other room,
and back up the other side of the wall 3 to the drain, i like to
keep it retained in that one room instead of letting it wet both
rooms of the basement.

Another thing about the above-ground thingy is the cat drinks
the spring water, and i would like to train the dog to do
likewise so that i donot have to be bothered with slimy water
dishes all the time. The cat always used to demand to be
watered at the sink from the faucet; then she would shake, and
splash germs all over the sink area, then i would have to Lysol
spray the sink area (What a mess of unnecessary activity), so
iam very pleased she drinks from the spring. My husband said
she is the first cat he ever saw walk on water, but i named her
Pinky anyway (:

Truly

Harry

Once you have the water plugged, you'll still probably have a wet
basement. So you and your husband should take a couple of weekend and
paint the walls with Drylok. It's a bit bit thick so it's harder to
use than paint, but not too bad. When you go to the home center or
hardware store, pick up a few gallons. You don't get much coverage
per gallon, but it's worth it.




Hello,

I did already, try to sort of "plug" the leak and all it seemd to want
do was walk up the outside of the wall and want to come in from higher
up on the wall, so i gave up the idea of "plugging" for a while,
because iamnot, unless forced, into waterfalls. Iwill be fixing it
right some day, but for now i need a quick fix, and a "plug" isnot it.
I need a cement or glue that will work to hold the first layers of
brick (whatever) to the cement, basement floor to build the "well".
Would that "DryLock" stuff work?

Don wrote:
"Tater" wrote
Harry wrote:
Hello,
Can someone tell me where to find a water sealant that is
activated by rushing water?


post snipped.

This post is really confusing, but i think i understand. you have a
leak in your basement and would like to plug the leak, but you also
want to keep the leak so you can water your pets with a sump pump
arangement.

First, I'd compeletly plug the leak, hydraulic cement should do, and
can be found in most hardware stores.

second, drill a hole in your basement wall andstick a pipe in the hole,
sealed with hydraulic cement, to allow you to have a spigot.

also, the leak you describe might be called a seep.

Isn't the leak symptomatic of another problem?
In other words, if he plugs the leak, it will just reappear elsewhere?
Off the top of my skall it seems that altering the source of where the water
intrusion intersects the basement wall, ie., drains (perforated pipes) will
cause the water to go elsewhere than the wall?
Thats what they did on my house and it seems to keep the inside dry....so
far.




Hello,

There seems to be "soil" coming in with the "rushing" water,
so i doubt the perforations would last very long before they
became filled up with my lawn, but then perhaps i could just
plant shade-loving flowers or mushrooms in the “pipes�and
wa la a subterranean garden; then i could use the water to
water, not only the cat and dog, but the garden too. Maybe
instead of “above-ground well� for an automatic, sump pump
i should be thinking sprinkler system . . . The reason i donot
want to hack open the basement floor for a sump pump is
because the problem is a lot more than what iam telling you
right now, so the quick-fix will free-up my time to start the
necessary work that will work and solve the problem. Also
The coal is in the way of everything right now, so it willnot
be until Spring (after the coal is all burned up) that i can do
anything of a real nature. We just moved into the house about
a month ago, so weare still in the thought process of which
way to turn . . . like sell . . . for example . . . or fresh-water,
indoor, swimming pool; and sell tickets?

"Harry" wrote in message
ups.com...

Pat wrote:
Harry wrote:
Hello,
Can someone tell me where to find a water sealant that is
activated by rushing water?
Well not exactly white-water rapids, nor"rushing" all the
time; sometimes it slows down. I would like to think of what i
want to do as an above-ground swimming pool. What i mean
is if they can make above-ground swimming pools, then i can
make an above-ground well for a sump pump. The only
problem is itis wet and moving water all the time (sort of like
a spigot you cannot turn off - i think itis a spring, or at least it
acts like one, so if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a
duck, lets call it a duck anyway). All i want is a quick fix for
now, and later i can rebuild the basement.

I can get some of the floor area dried up to a dampness, while
holding the moving water in a massive about of towels for a
few minutes. At that point i would like to "glue" something to
the floor to begin the building of the little wall of the well (i
only need one, maybe two walls, depending how much of the
wall-to-floor actually leaks ), bricks are easier to handle than
cinder blocks so i guess that is what i want to build my well
with - maybe i should use square-cut rocks? I may only need
about less than a foot high, because i saw a sump pump that
does from 1/8" up, however it maynot be automatic. In that
case iwill have to go higher with my wall to accommodate the
sump pump.

This (so far) is only a few feet of space i will need for the
well. Right now iam handling the mini flood with a "sponge"
pump, set at the point where the water puddles at a low spot
on the basement floor; this is then hosed to the floor drain.
The puddling only amounts to about or less than 1/8' depth, so
i have to go in there and turn on the "spunge" many times a
day. That is why i would like to get more depth to the water so
that i can install an automatic, sump pump.

I know what youare thinking so iwill answer it right now: If i
donot pump the water, through a hose, to the drain, the well-
trained, little stream runs somewhat along 3 walls, having
started at the first wall; very close to a corner; around the
corner of a 3rd wall; to the room with the drain; back up the
other side of the wall 3, about 3 or so feet from wall 3, and
continues right on into the drain all by its cute, little 'ole self -
scary to say the least . . . since it obediently puddles at wall 3
before taking off for its trip around the wall to the other room,
and back up the other side of the wall 3 to the drain, i like to
keep it retained in that one room instead of letting it wet both
rooms of the basement.

Another thing about the above-ground thingy is the cat drinks
the spring water, and i would like to train the dog to do
likewise so that i donot have to be bothered with slimy water
dishes all the time. The cat always used to demand to be
watered at the sink from the faucet; then she would shake, and
splash germs all over the sink area, then i would have to Lysol
spray the sink area (What a mess of unnecessary activity), so
iam very pleased she drinks from the spring. My husband said
she is the first cat he ever saw walk on water, but i named her
Pinky anyway (:

Truly

Harry

Once you have the water plugged, you'll still probably have a wet
basement. So you and your husband should take a couple of weekend and
paint the walls with Drylok. It's a bit bit thick so it's harder to
use than paint, but not too bad. When you go to the home center or
hardware store, pick up a few gallons. You don't get much coverage
per gallon, but it's worth it.




Hello,

I did already, try to sort of "plug" the leak and all it seemd to want
do was walk up the outside of the wall and want to come in from higher
up on the wall, so i gave up the idea of "plugging" for a while,
because iamnot, unless forced, into waterfalls. Iwill be fixing it
right some day, but for now i need a quick fix, and a "plug" isnot it.
I need a cement or glue that will work to hold the first layers of
brick (whatever) to the cement, basement floor to build the "well".
Would that "DryLock" stuff work?

If you put in a perforated pipe, it should be wrapped in a geotechnical
fabric that allows water through and blocks fines (dirt). The pipe should be
set in a crushed stone bed and surrounded by crushed stone, which should
have a geofabric separating it from the dirt above. Be sure to face the
perforations down, even though it sounds counterintuitive.
Another trick used in very wet commercial areas (water treatment plants,
sewage pump stations) is a 4" gutter around the edge sloping to a sump area
at one corner. Usually water in the gutter and sump, but the floor remains
dry.
When we had a house in a filled area of Boston, the basement got wet a few
hours after high tide. We installed the pipe as above under the floor
leading to a sump. Dry basement for 20 years.
BTW, my dogs and cat tell me that their saliva is far purer than Lysol ;-)
EDS

Don wrote:
Do what the cat tells you to do.
It is only by her grace that you are allowed to live there. ;-)

Seriously, be concerned with contaminents and minerals in the water.
Cats are suceptable to *crystals* in their kidneys and bladders.
Very painful, expensive and can kill the cat.

Besides, the minerals make the cat taste bad and you waste all your
good sauce on it. Better when it tastes like chicken, esp. General Tso
Chicken.



"Harry" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello,
Can someone tell me where to find a water sealant that is
activated by rushing water?
Well not exactly white-water rapids, nor"rushing" all the
time; sometimes it slows down. I would like to think of what i
want to do as an above-ground swimming pool. What i mean
is if they can make above-ground swimming pools, then i can
make an above-ground well for a sump pump. The only
problem is itis wet and moving water all the time (sort of like
a spigot you cannot turn off - i think itis a spring, or at least it
acts like one, so if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a
duck, lets call it a duck anyway). All i want is a quick fix for
now, and later i can rebuild the basement.

I can get some of the floor area dried up to a dampness, while
holding the moving water in a massive about of towels for a
few minutes. At that point i would like to "glue" something to
the floor to begin the building of the little wall of the well (i
only need one, maybe two walls, depending how much of the
wall-to-floor actually leaks ), bricks are easier to handle than
cinder blocks so i guess that is what i want to build my well
with - maybe i should use square-cut rocks? I may only need
about less than a foot high, because i saw a sump pump that
does from 1/8" up, however it maynot be automatic. In that
case iwill have to go higher with my wall to accommodate the
sump pump.

This (so far) is only a few feet of space i will need for the
well. Right now iam handling the mini flood with a "sponge"
pump, set at the point where the water puddles at a low spot
on the basement floor; this is then hosed to the floor drain.
The puddling only amounts to about or less than 1/8' depth, so
i have to go in there and turn on the "spunge" many times a
day. That is why i would like to get more depth to the water so
that i can install an automatic, sump pump.

I know what youare thinking so iwill answer it right now: If i
donot pump the water, through a hose, to the drain, the well-
trained, little stream runs somewhat along 3 walls, having
started at the first wall; very close to a corner; around the
corner of a 3rd wall; to the room with the drain; back up the
other side of the wall 3, about 3 or so feet from wall 3, and
continues right on into the drain all by its cute, little 'ole self -
scary to say the least . . . since it obediently puddles at wall 3
before taking off for its trip around the wall to the other room,
and back up the other side of the wall 3 to the drain, i like to
keep it retained in that one room instead of letting it wet both
rooms of the basement.

Another thing about the above-ground thingy is the cat drinks
the spring water, and i would like to train the dog to do
likewise so that i donot have to be bothered with slimy water
dishes all the time. The cat always used to demand to be
watered at the sink from the faucet; then she would shake, and
splash germs all over the sink area, then i would have to Lysol
spray the sink area (What a mess of unnecessary activity), so
iam very pleased she drinks from the spring. My husband said
she is the first cat he ever saw walk on water, but i named her
Pinky anyway (:

Truly

Harry wrote:
Pat wrote:
Harry wrote:
Hello,
Can someone tell me where to find a water sealant that is
activated by rushing water?
Well not exactly white-water rapids, nor"rushing" all the
time; sometimes it slows down. I would like to think of what i
want to do as an above-ground swimming pool. What i mean
is if they can make above-ground swimming pools, then i can
make an above-ground well for a sump pump. The only
problem is itis wet and moving water all the time (sort of like
a spigot you cannot turn off - i think itis a spring, or at least it
acts like one, so if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a
duck, lets call it a duck anyway). All i want is a quick fix for
now, and later i can rebuild the basement.

I can get some of the floor area dried up to a dampness, while
holding the moving water in a massive about of towels for a
few minutes. At that point i would like to "glue" something to
the floor to begin the building of the little wall of the well (i
only need one, maybe two walls, depending how much of the
wall-to-floor actually leaks ), bricks are easier to handle than
cinder blocks so i guess that is what i want to build my well
with - maybe i should use square-cut rocks? I may only need
about less than a foot high, because i saw a sump pump that
does from 1/8" up, however it maynot be automatic. In that
case iwill have to go higher with my wall to accommodate the
sump pump.

This (so far) is only a few feet of space i will need for the
well. Right now iam handling the mini flood with a "sponge"
pump, set at the point where the water puddles at a low spot
on the basement floor; this is then hosed to the floor drain.
The puddling only amounts to about or less than 1/8' depth, so
i have to go in there and turn on the "spunge" many times a
day. That is why i would like to get more depth to the water so
that i can install an automatic, sump pump.

I know what youare thinking so iwill answer it right now: If i
donot pump the water, through a hose, to the drain, the well-
trained, little stream runs somewhat along 3 walls, having
started at the first wall; very close to a corner; around the
corner of a 3rd wall; to the room with the drain; back up the
other side of the wall 3, about 3 or so feet from wall 3, and
continues right on into the drain all by its cute, little 'ole self -
scary to say the least . . . since it obediently puddles at wall 3
before taking off for its trip around the wall to the other room,
and back up the other side of the wall 3 to the drain, i like to
keep it retained in that one room instead of letting it wet both
rooms of the basement.

Another thing about the above-ground thingy is the cat drinks
the spring water, and i would like to train the dog to do
likewise so that i donot have to be bothered with slimy water
dishes all the time. The cat always used to demand to be
watered at the sink from the faucet; then she would shake, and
splash germs all over the sink area, then i would have to Lysol
spray the sink area (What a mess of unnecessary activity), so
iam very pleased she drinks from the spring. My husband said
she is the first cat he ever saw walk on water, but i named her
Pinky anyway (:

Truly

Harry

Once you have the water plugged, you'll still probably have a wet
basement. So you and your husband should take a couple of weekend and
paint the walls with Drylok. It's a bit bit thick so it's harder to
use than paint, but not too bad. When you go to the home center or
hardware store, pick up a few gallons. You don't get much coverage
per gallon, but it's worth it.




Hello,

I did already, try to sort of "plug" the leak and all it seemd to want
do was walk up the outside of the wall and want to come in from higher
up on the wall, so i gave up the idea of "plugging" for a while,
because iamnot, unless forced, into waterfalls. Iwill be fixing it
right some day, but for now i need a quick fix, and a "plug" isnot it.
I need a cement or glue that will work to hold the first layers of
brick (whatever) to the cement, basement floor to build the "well".
Would that "DryLock" stuff work?




Hello,
Please excuse mistake. I meant to say "Hydraulic cement".

Multi stage solution:
Water is coming in from outside.
Go outside the house and locate the spot above the seep in the basement
wall.
Rent a 4" auger, and dig a hole down 4' below the seep. Last few feet
of soil removed should be mud.
Insert a length (long enough to reach the bottom) of perforated pipe,
capped on the bottom, covered in the previously metioned cloth.
You now have a well!
Drop in a suction line, with a coarse strainer on the bottom, and attach
a suction pump on the surface.
Removing the water from the outside should allow you to seal the wall
inside. You will need to keep using the pump, so you might want to put
a float on the suction pipe rigged to turn the pump on when the water
starts to pool too high in the well.

Later, drill through the wall to install a pipe as previously suggested.

Chisel a 1" deep trough around where you want to build the sump well
inside the basement, and up the wall where you want it to go.
Build a plywood form for the walls, pour in hydraulic cement and allow
to dry for a week. Remove form, coat inside and out, including the
floor area, with Dryloc. Mount sump pump, and you're done!

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"Pat"

Don wrote:
Do what the cat tells you to do.
It is only by her grace that you are allowed to live there. ;-)

Seriously, be concerned with contaminents and minerals in the water.
Cats are suceptable to *crystals* in their kidneys and bladders.
Very painful, expensive and can kill the cat.

Besides, the minerals make the cat taste bad and you waste all your
good sauce on it. Better when it tastes like chicken, esp. General Tso
Chicken.

Bear in mind, Pat, that this is a "cross-thread", so your post may not go
down well on alt.survival.

"Kris Krieger" (from alt.arcitecture)
"Pat"
[snip]
[cross-posting removed]

[cross-posting partially re-established]

I'm not sure that I follow the description of your problem 100%, but I
think I know the answer. Go to any home center or good hardware store
and get "hydraulic cement". Just ask for it, they'll point you in the
right direction. It is a very quick drying cement that will dry in
wet conditions, even under water. Just mix with water, plug the hole,
and hold in place. Might not look good of 1st effort but add some
more later to smooth it out when you're done.

Good luck.

Is that what I should use to build a small fountain?

My current idea is to stabilize some vertical large rocks (?schist? -
look like craggy micacious stones arranged in parallel layers or
"fibers" (sorry, I don't know the right term) - one type has a nearly
black base color and looks much like steel when the light hits it
sideways, also saw an aqua-green color, thinking of the "black" with
smoothly-rounded white "beach stone" to put into the center of the
"white garden" (white bloomers, white/silver foliage) part of the
garden-to-be.

Anyway, I'd like to have maximum exposure of the stone and just use
cement/concrete to stabilize the "stack" ((more like "organ pipe" sort
of arrangement") and have water running down the whole construct.

So is hydraulic cement good for that?

Thanks!