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Old 02-05-2004, 12:03 PM
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Hello all,

I have been researching the best method to deter a cat from using my
Garden as a Toilet and believe the most efficient and least problematic
(Litigation concerns) method is to install a Movement activated
sprinkler in the area which this pest animal frequents.

I have only found the one available in Australia so far and it seems to
cost approx $145.00 which is a little more than I had hoped to outlay.
It is called the "Scarecrow"

I wonder if any of you folk would be able to maybe give me any ideas of
alternatives to this product, or better still would someone have a
sprinkler they would like to sell ?.

thanks.

Pat
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Old 02-05-2004, 02:04 PM
Bushy
 
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G'day Pat,
watched your post in aus.electronics (crossposted reply) and as it appears
you have a certain amount of electronic knowledge, can I suggest you use a
cheap sensor light (available for under $20.00 in most cheap shops) and a
washing machine solenoid (available for very cheap from an old washing
machine on the side of the road on council cleanup day!) to control the
sprinkler.

If you need instructions, then maybe you should consider the store bought
item.........

I have the Dick Smith K3008 Electric Fence Controller which is the cheapest
fence controller kit but does not include the car ignition coil and a case,
but both are readily available for next to nothing. I have modified mine
with a switch to allow different output levels so it has a low and high
setting. My dog has experienced the fence and took off faster than chasing a
rabbit across the paddock when she first touched it with her tail. Must have
gone 50 yards before turning her hear in mid-step to see if the thing that
had bitten her was still chasing her...............

Hope this helps,
Peter

"Pat" wrote in message
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Hello all,

I have been researching the best method to deter a cat from using my
Garden as a Toilet and believe the most efficient and least problematic
(Litigation concerns) method is to install a Movement activated
sprinkler in the area which this pest animal frequents.

I have only found the one available in Australia so far and it seems to
cost approx $145.00 which is a little more than I had hoped to outlay.
It is called the "Scarecrow"

I wonder if any of you folk would be able to maybe give me any ideas of
alternatives to this product, or better still would someone have a
sprinkler they would like to sell ?.

thanks.

Pat



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Old 02-05-2004, 10:07 PM
Pat
 
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Thanks Bushy,

I will most certainly look in to that.

Pat

Bushy wrote:
G'day Pat,
watched your post in aus.electronics (crossposted reply) and as it appears
you have a certain amount of electronic knowledge, can I suggest you use a
cheap sensor light (available for under $20.00 in most cheap shops) and a
washing machine solenoid (available for very cheap from an old washing
machine on the side of the road on council cleanup day!) to control the
sprinkler.

If you need instructions, then maybe you should consider the store bought
item.........

I have the Dick Smith K3008 Electric Fence Controller which is the cheapest
fence controller kit but does not include the car ignition coil and a case,
but both are readily available for next to nothing. I have modified mine
with a switch to allow different output levels so it has a low and high
setting. My dog has experienced the fence and took off faster than chasing a
rabbit across the paddock when she first touched it with her tail. Must have
gone 50 yards before turning her hear in mid-step to see if the thing that
had bitten her was still chasing her...............

Hope this helps,
Peter

"Pat" wrote in message
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Hello all,

I have been researching the best method to deter a cat from using my
Garden as a Toilet and believe the most efficient and least problematic
(Litigation concerns) method is to install a Movement activated
sprinkler in the area which this pest animal frequents.

I have only found the one available in Australia so far and it seems to
cost approx $145.00 which is a little more than I had hoped to outlay.
It is called the "Scarecrow"

I wonder if any of you folk would be able to maybe give me any ideas of
alternatives to this product, or better still would someone have a
sprinkler they would like to sell ?.

thanks.

Pat




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Old 03-05-2004, 09:02 AM
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Paintball guns work a treat. The ball stings the cat, and the owners
get to see the mark on the cat, which keeps the bloody things indoors
where they belong.

Regards, Andrew.

Pat wrote:

Hello all,

I have been researching the best method to deter a cat from using my
Garden as a Toilet and believe the most efficient and least problematic
(Litigation concerns) method is to install a Movement activated
sprinkler in the area which this pest animal frequents.

I have only found the one available in Australia so far and it seems to
cost approx $145.00 which is a little more than I had hoped to outlay.
It is called the "Scarecrow"

I wonder if any of you folk would be able to maybe give me any ideas of
alternatives to this product, or better still would someone have a
sprinkler they would like to sell ?.

thanks.

Pat

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Old 03-05-2004, 12:06 PM
Andrew G
 
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"Andrew Puddifer" wrote in message
...
Paintball guns work a treat. The ball stings the cat, and the owners
get to see the mark on the cat, which keeps the bloody things indoors
where they belong.



Hmmm, sounds a good idea.
Are these easy to get, or do you have to be in some sort of club, like with
most other "weapons" controlled by government sigh?
Also, are these that expensive? Looking at one for a pesky dog that keeps
returning no matter what I seem to do to it (without causing harm of course)

Regards, Andrew.

Pat wrote:

Hello all,

I have been researching the best method to deter a cat from using my
Garden as a Toilet and believe the most efficient and least problematic
(Litigation concerns) method is to install a Movement activated
sprinkler in the area which this pest animal frequents.

I have only found the one available in Australia so far and it seems to
cost approx $145.00 which is a little more than I had hoped to outlay.
It is called the "Scarecrow"

I wonder if any of you folk would be able to maybe give me any ideas of
alternatives to this product, or better still would someone have a
sprinkler they would like to sell ?.

thanks.

Pat





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Old 04-05-2004, 09:02 AM
Andrew Puddifer
 
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I have no idea as to their price or availability, I borrowed a mate's
for a few days.
I know the cheaper ones are plastic and use spring pressure to fire the
balls, so maybe they are cheap enough. Lots of fun though!
Government has to control things, it makes us appreciate the things
they let us do...not!

Regards, Andrew.

Andrew G wrote:

"Andrew Puddifer" wrote in message
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Paintball guns work a treat. The ball stings the cat, and the owners
get to see the mark on the cat, which keeps the bloody things indoors
where they belong.


Hmmm, sounds a good idea.
Are these easy to get, or do you have to be in some sort of club, like with
most other "weapons" controlled by government sigh?
Also, are these that expensive? Looking at one for a pesky dog that keeps
returning no matter what I seem to do to it (without causing harm of course)

Regards, Andrew.


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Old 04-05-2004, 01:05 PM
Bushy
 
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Paintballs can be "shot" though a simple blowgun.

If you want to do it cheap, four foot of conduit will do nicely, but
remember to blow, not suck!

http://www.protectiondepot.com/blowgun_accessories4.asp is a 'merkin
company, but you should be able to get them from anywhere local that does
skirmish.

http://www.geocities.com/blowgunhunter/index.html for ideas, then do a
couple of searches on your favorite search engine.

Peter


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Old 05-05-2004, 01:07 AM
Jade
 
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Probably not a good idea, at least make sure the paintgun is non toxic, or
mix some food dye and corn flour up and put it in an paintgun shell or
something like that, because the paint is most likely toxic, and the cat
will hide, and then try to clean itself. The food dye will stain the cat
very well. Use green the first time, unless you REALLY want to give the
owners a scare... then I'd use red.
Also, using a blowgun would be a good idea, because it may be more gentle on
the cat. The key to getting rid of the cat in one easy step, is to scare the
owner, not hurt the cat.
Hope this helps,
Jade.


"Bushy" wrote in message
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Paintballs can be "shot" though a simple blowgun.

If you want to do it cheap, four foot of conduit will do nicely, but
remember to blow, not suck!

http://www.protectiondepot.com/blowgun_accessories4.asp is a 'merkin
company, but you should be able to get them from anywhere local that does
skirmish.

http://www.geocities.com/blowgunhunter/index.html for ideas, then do a
couple of searches on your favorite search engine.

Peter




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Old 06-05-2004, 08:03 AM
Lindsay Heinz
 
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On Sun, 02 May 2004 20:46:19 +1000, Pat wrote:

Hello all,

I have been researching the best method to deter a cat from using my
Garden as a Toilet and believe the most efficient and least problematic
(Litigation concerns) method is to install a Movement activated
sprinkler in the area which this pest animal frequents.


I wouldn't even dream about using paint bombs etc. on a neighbours
Cat. Get a dog! Problem solved. :-)

I'd rather suggest that you approach your Local Council to find out
their attitude regarding wandering pets.

I'm in Victoria where many suburbs have legislation and penalties
regarding wandering pets. In my suburb for example, Dogs & Cats etc.
are not allowed to wander. Our Local Council will drop off a trap and
subsequently come back and take away a Cat that was trapped.
If the Cat has an identification implant or is wearing an
identification collar or disk, it will be returned to the owner with
an appropriate fine, otherwise it would be put down.

The above avoids any Litigation concerns.
--

Lindsay.
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Old 06-05-2004, 11:04 AM
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Litigation concerns??? Regarding a stray animal on your property? If
bloody cat owners won't properly restrain their animals, they deserve
what they get. I did not advocate harming the animal, merely giving it a
good scare. If I wanted to harm it, a possum trap, some rope, bricks and
a quick trip to the local creek would work better.
Always struck me as odd how stray dogs are this huge problem, but it's
O.K for your neighbour's cat to shit on your property, scratch the paint
on your car, spray on your doors, kill wildlife in huge numbers etc.....

Regards, Andrew.

Lindsay Heinz wrote:

On Sun, 02 May 2004 20:46:19 +1000, Pat wrote:

Hello all,

I have been researching the best method to deter a cat from using my
Garden as a Toilet and believe the most efficient and least problematic
(Litigation concerns) method is to install a Movement activated
sprinkler in the area which this pest animal frequents.


I wouldn't even dream about using paint bombs etc. on a neighbours
Cat. Get a dog! Problem solved. :-)

I'd rather suggest that you approach your Local Council to find out
their attitude regarding wandering pets.

I'm in Victoria where many suburbs have legislation and penalties
regarding wandering pets. In my suburb for example, Dogs & Cats etc.
are not allowed to wander. Our Local Council will drop off a trap and
subsequently come back and take away a Cat that was trapped.
If the Cat has an identification implant or is wearing an
identification collar or disk, it will be returned to the owner with
an appropriate fine, otherwise it would be put down.

The above avoids any Litigation concerns.
--

Lindsay.



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Old 06-05-2004, 12:04 PM
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On Thu, 06 May 2004 19:59:01 +1000, Andrew Puddifer top posted and
didn't snip previous posted text and didn't contribute to the thread.

--

Lindsay.
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Old 07-05-2004, 03:05 AM
Andrew G
 
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"Lindsay Heinz" wrote in message
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On Sun, 02 May 2004 20:46:19 +1000, Pat wrote:

Hello all,

I have been researching the best method to deter a cat from using my
Garden as a Toilet and believe the most efficient and least problematic
(Litigation concerns) method is to install a Movement activated
sprinkler in the area which this pest animal frequents.


I wouldn't even dream about using paint bombs etc. on a neighbours
Cat. Get a dog! Problem solved. :-)


Good idea, however some people can't have dogs, or don't want dogs, or cats
for that matter.
My fiance and i don't want either as we have a young toddler and don't get
the time for a pet.
The problem we have here is a stray dog, to the point of being unable to
comfortably use the backyard for fear of safety of our daughter.
Numerous legal methods have failed including speaking with owner and even
tying message around dogs neck for owner.

I'd rather suggest that you approach your Local Council to find out
their attitude regarding wandering pets.


Council here just don't seem to care, or be around when dog is out.

I'm in Victoria where many suburbs have legislation and penalties
regarding wandering pets. In my suburb for example, Dogs & Cats etc.
are not allowed to wander. Our Local Council will drop off a trap and
subsequently come back and take away a Cat that was trapped.
If the Cat has an identification implant or is wearing an
identification collar or disk, it will be returned to the owner with
an appropriate fine, otherwise it would be put down.

The above avoids any Litigation concerns.


But would owning a dog for the pure reason to get rid of cat or scare it,
that could possibly tear cat apart or injure it avoid this?

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Lindsay.



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Old 07-05-2004, 06:05 AM
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snip,

http://www.protectiondepot.com/blowgun_accessories4.asp is a 'merkin
company, but you should be able to get them from anywhere local that does
skirmish.


A 'merkin' company ? - that is a far cry from a paint ball gun.
I didn't know that one could still buy merkins.

http://www.geocities.com/blowgunhunter/index.html for ideas, then do a
couple of searches on your favorite search engine.

Peter




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Old 07-05-2004, 06:05 AM
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snip

I wouldn't even dream about using paint bombs etc. on a neighbours
Cat. Get a dog! Problem solved. :-)


clcuster bomb sounds better but only when you have a 'cat party' in the
garden otherwise it is not cost effective.
:-l

I'd rather suggest that you approach your Local Council to find out
their attitude regarding wandering pets.

I'm in Victoria where many suburbs have legislation and penalties
regarding wandering pets. In my suburb for example, Dogs & Cats etc.
are not allowed to wander. Our Local Council will drop off a trap and
subsequently come back and take away a Cat that was trapped.
If the Cat has an identification implant or is wearing an
identification collar or disk, it will be returned to the owner with
an appropriate fine, otherwise it would be put down.

The above avoids any Litigation concerns.
--

Lindsay.



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"Andrew G" writes:
The problem we have here is a stray dog, to the point of being unable to
comfortably use the backyard for fear of safety of our daughter.
Numerous legal methods have failed including speaking with owner and even
tying message around dogs neck for owner.


Can you tie the dog up, then phone the pound to come and collect a
stray/wandering dog? Or take it to the pound yourself? The owners will
then have to pay to get their pooch back, or else lose it.
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