"Frank" wrote in message
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On Jul 4, 2:11 am, "Chas Hurst" wrote:


In most enlightened communities it is illegal for private citizens to
relocate wild animals.

You are right that it is illegal in some communities. I would not
call them "enlightened" ;(
Frank

The law usually is state wide.
It's a good law in my opinion, and those that think otherwise I consider
unenlightened.

Chas Hurst said:

"Eggs Zachtly" wrote in message
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Chas Hurst said:

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On Jul 3, 12:08 pm, willshak wrote:
on 7/3/2007 12:43 PM Chas Hurst said the following:

"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message
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trapped in the hav-a-hart. Thos traps have been busy this year. I
think
that's 7 total so far.

What do you do with the trapped 'coon?

Mine go in the witness protection program. :-)

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

I like to tell people that I relocate them to more affluent
neighborhoods. That ****es them off
Frank


I like it - can I use it ? chuckle I used to drop them off at the
IBM
plant where I last worked.

In most enlightened communities it is illegal for private citizens to
relocate wild animals.

Source?

I'm not your legal advisor. Check it out yourself.

I'm not the one that made such a bold statement. I figured you couldn't
back it up, but I thought I'd ask.

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Eggs

What's another word for thesaurus?

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On Jul 3, 12:08 pm, willshak wrote:
on 7/3/2007 12:43 PM Chas Hurst said the following:

"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message
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trapped in the hav-a-hart. Thos traps have been busy this year. I
think
that's 7 total so far.

What do you do with the trapped 'coon?

Mine go in the witness protection program. :-)

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

I like to tell people that I relocate them to more affluent
neighborhoods. That ****es them off
Frank


I like it - can I use it ? chuckle I used to drop them off at the IBM
plant where I last worked.

In most enlightened communities it is illegal for private citizens to
relocate wild animals.



You are correct. I found that out a few years ago at a hunting safety
course when I mentioned my activities. The DEC agent quickly told me he
didn't want to hear any thing about that. chuckle Now when people ask me
I just tell them I'll do whatever is legal.

On Jul 4, 12:32 pm, Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Chas Hurst said:

"Frank" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 4, 2:11 am, "Chas Hurst" wrote:

In most enlightened communities it is illegal for private citizens to
relocate wild animals.

You are right that it is illegal in some communities. I would not
call them "enlightened" ;(
Frank

The law usually is state wide.

Again, source?

It's a good law in my opinion,

It's a law that exists in your head. There are laws about translocation of
/certain/ species, but no blanket coverage of translocation of /all/ wild
animals, as your statements read (and certainly not most "enlightened
communities" and/or states). You're making that up, 100%, and I'm calling
you on it. It's bullshit.

and those that think otherwise I consider unenlightened.

And, those that make up their own laws, expecting everyone to live by them,
I consider borderline schizophrenic.

--

Eggs

I've heard this before from other posters but never bothered to
question them. Game animals are usually controlled by fish and game
departments but that is for hunting or killing and may have nothing to
do with trap and release. Some of the whinny Liberal types are
against it because it disturbs the animal to live elsewhere and he may
die in the strange surroundings. For these types, I hope a family of
illegals squats on their property, so progressive as they are, they
will welcome them with food and clothing
Frank

Chas Hurst said:

"Frank" wrote in message
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On Jul 4, 2:11 am, "Chas Hurst" wrote:


In most enlightened communities it is illegal for private citizens to
relocate wild animals.

You are right that it is illegal in some communities. I would not
call them "enlightened" ;(
Frank

The law usually is state wide.

Again, source?

It's a good law in my opinion,

It's a law that exists in your head. There are laws about translocation of
/certain/ species, but no blanket coverage of translocation of /all/ wild
animals, as your statements read (and certainly not most "enlightened
communities" and/or states). You're making that up, 100%, and I'm calling
you on it. It's bullshit.

and those that think otherwise I consider unenlightened.

And, those that make up their own laws, expecting everyone to live by them,
I consider borderline schizophrenic.

--

Eggs

A watched clock never boils.

Source?

I'm not your legal advisor. Check it out yourself.

I'm not the one that made such a bold statement. I figured you couldn't
back it up, but I thought I'd ask.


It is illegal in Oregon as per Oregon Fish & Wildlife. Releasing spreads
germs. Also you are teaching the animal about traps making the problem more
severe in the new location. In Oregon coons are a game animal and you must
obtain a permit to trap them. Or have a valid hunting license and obey the
hunting regulations.

Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Chas Hurst said:


"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message
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"Frank" wrote in message
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On Jul 3, 12:08 pm, willshak wrote:

on 7/3/2007 12:43 PM Chas Hurst said the following:


"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message
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trapped in the hav-a-hart. Thos traps have been busy this year. I
think
that's 7 total so far.

What do you do with the trapped 'coon?

Mine go in the witness protection program. :-)

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

I like to tell people that I relocate them to more affluent
neighborhoods. That ****es them off
Frank


I like it - can I use it ? chuckle I used to drop them off at the IBM
plant where I last worked.

In most enlightened communities it is illegal for private citizens to
relocate wild animals.


Source?


The first one shows even the pros can't just trap and release...

http://www.spcb.state.tx.us/Bulletin/racoon.htm

.....The SPCB was contacted by the Austin (TX) Nature and Science Center
concerning a recent overpopulation of raccoons possibly resulting from
relocation of nuisance animals. Pest management professionals performing
wildlife removal services are reminded that a permit from the Texas
Parks and Wildlife Department is required for transporting protected
wildlife such as raccoons. Permission of the landowner is required for
releases. Also, you should consult the Texas Department of Health
concerning rabies quarantine information. For more information see:
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/nature/r...phane.htm#todo ...


http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs...EWS18/60901015

.....While he understands that raccoons can be a nuisance, Kevin Newsome,
an Ohio wildlife officer assigned to Lucas County, said yesterday that
what Mr. Green is doing is illegal.

Mr. Newsome said state law requires anyone who traps a raccoon to either
have it euthanized or quarantined for 30 days. Mr. Green’s relocation
activities are considered fourth-degree misdemeanors under Ohio law,
punishable by a maximum $250 fine and 30 days in jail, he said.

There is a bit of a catch in the law: only licensed wildlife
rehabilitators may quarantine raccoons because the state is concerned
with the spread of rabies and other diseases. However, Mr. Newsome said
Lucas County’s lone rehabilitator, Nature’s Nursery, has stopped keeping
the often nocturnal omnivores on its property.....

http://myfwc.com/critters/Relocation.htm

.....Keep in mind that relocating animals to public land is against
Florida law. A nuisance animal trapper licensed by the Fish and Wildlife
Conservation Commission may relocate animals to private lands when he or
she has the permission of the landowner.....

http://tinyurl.com/3x74ee

.......limited periods of time. California
Department of Fish & Game Regulations prohibit the relocation
of raccoons and other wildlife without written permission of the
Department. For further information on the legal status of
raccoons and other wildlife, contact your California Department
of Fish & Game Regional Office....

Lar

"Frank" wrote in message
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On Jul 4, 12:32 pm, Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Chas Hurst said:

"Frank" wrote in message
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On Jul 4, 2:11 am, "Chas Hurst" wrote:

In most enlightened communities it is illegal for private citizens to
relocate wild animals.

You are right that it is illegal in some communities. I would not
call them "enlightened" ;(
Frank

The law usually is state wide.

Again, source?

It's a good law in my opinion,

It's a law that exists in your head. There are laws about translocation
of
/certain/ species, but no blanket coverage of translocation of /all/ wild
animals, as your statements read (and certainly not most "enlightened
communities" and/or states). You're making that up, 100%, and I'm calling
you on it. It's bullshit.

and those that think otherwise I consider unenlightened.

And, those that make up their own laws, expecting everyone to live by
them,
I consider borderline schizophrenic.

--

Eggs

I've heard this before from other posters but never bothered to
question them. Game animals are usually controlled by fish and game
departments but that is for hunting or killing and may have nothing to
do with trap and release. Some of the whinny Liberal types are
against it because it disturbs the animal to live elsewhere and he may
die in the strange surroundings. For these types, I hope a family of
illegals squats on their property, so progressive as they are, they
will welcome them with food and clothing
Frank

You guys would be funny if'n you weren't fasisct fools. I love the maudlin
mellodramas you goose steppers dream up.

On Jul 4, 1:01 pm, Lar wrote:


......limited periods of time. California
Department of Fish & Game Regulations prohibit the relocation
of raccoons and other wildlife without written permission of the
Department. For further information on the legal status of
raccoons and other wildlife, contact your California Department
of Fish & Game Regional Office....

Lar

Just what you'd expect from the land of the fruits and the nuts. No
apparent problem here in little DE.
I took a squirrel in my Hav-a-hart to release in county park near a
county police sub-station when a cop pulled in right behind me.
When he got out of the car, I told him I was there to release a
prisoner and opened the trunk to show him the squirrel. All I got was
a chuckle
Frank

"Chas Hurst" wrote in message
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"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message
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trapped in the hav-a-hart. Thos traps have been busy this year. I think
that's 7 total so far.

Maybe someone like Frank is dropping off the 'coons at your place.

Should I reposition the security cams ? I'm trying for woodchucks - the
coons and opossums are just mistakes. I don't think they are bothering
anything in the garden / orchard.

"Chas Hurst" wrote in message
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"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message
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"Chas Hurst" wrote in message
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"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message
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trapped in the hav-a-hart. Thos traps have been busy this year. I
think that's 7 total so far.

Maybe someone like Frank is dropping off the 'coons at your place.

Should I reposition the security cams ? I'm trying for woodchucks - the
coons and opossums are just mistakes. I don't think they are bothering
anything in the garden / orchard.

I'd shoot the woodchucks. Maybe change the bait to something less
attractive to 'coons and possums, or close the traps at night.

I don't have time to sit and wait for a chuck to come out. I'm using peanut
butter on pieces of apple. The traps are on a property I own about 6 miles
from where I live.

"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message
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trapped in the hav-a-hart. Thos traps have been busy this year. I think
that's 7 total so far.

Maybe someone like Frank is dropping off the 'coons at your place.

"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message
...

"Chas Hurst" wrote in message
...

"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message
...
trapped in the hav-a-hart. Thos traps have been busy this year. I think
that's 7 total so far.

Maybe someone like Frank is dropping off the 'coons at your place.

Should I reposition the security cams ? I'm trying for woodchucks - the
coons and opossums are just mistakes. I don't think they are bothering
anything in the garden / orchard.

I'd shoot the woodchucks. Maybe change the bait to something less attractive
to 'coons and possums, or close the traps at night.

On Jul 4, 3:13 pm, "Chas Hurst" wrote:
"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message

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trapped in the hav-a-hart. Thos traps have been busy this year. I think
that's 7 total so far.

Maybe someone like Frank is dropping off the 'coons at your place.

This was the last one:
http://www.dol.net/~frank.logullo/thief.pdf
Over a year ago. Saw him in bird feeder on deck, trapped on patio
under deck and took him for a ride.
Little guy's living happily in a state park.
Tried to catch his daddy but he was too big for my trap.
Frank

Lar said:

Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Chas Hurst said:

"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message
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On Jul 3, 12:08 pm, willshak wrote:

on 7/3/2007 12:43 PM Chas Hurst said the following:


"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message
...

trapped in the hav-a-hart. Thos traps have been busy this year. I
think
that's 7 total so far.

What do you do with the trapped 'coon?

Mine go in the witness protection program. :-)

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

I like to tell people that I relocate them to more affluent
neighborhoods. That ****es them off
Frank


I like it - can I use it ? chuckle I used to drop them off at the IBM
plant where I last worked.

In most enlightened communities it is illegal for private citizens to
relocate wild animals.

Source?


The first one shows even the pros can't just trap and release...

http://www.spcb.state.tx.us/Bulletin/racoon.htm

....The SPCB was contacted by the Austin (TX) Nature and Science Center
concerning a recent overpopulation of raccoons possibly resulting from
relocation of nuisance animals. Pest management professionals performing
wildlife removal services are reminded that a permit from the Texas
Parks and Wildlife Department is required for transporting protected
wildlife such as raccoons. Permission of the landowner is required for
releases. Also, you should consult the Texas Department of Health
concerning rabies quarantine information. For more information see:
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/nature/r...phane.htm#todo ...

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs...EWS18/60901015

....While he understands that raccoons can be a nuisance, Kevin Newsome,
an Ohio wildlife officer assigned to Lucas County, said yesterday that
what Mr. Green is doing is illegal.

Mr. Newsome said state law requires anyone who traps a raccoon to either
have it euthanized or quarantined for 30 days. Mr. Green¢s relocation
activities are considered fourth-degree misdemeanors under Ohio law,
punishable by a maximum $250 fine and 30 days in jail, he said.

There is a bit of a catch in the law: only licensed wildlife
rehabilitators may quarantine raccoons because the state is concerned
with the spread of rabies and other diseases. However, Mr. Newsome said
Lucas County¢s lone rehabilitator, Nature¢s Nursery, has stopped keeping
the often nocturnal omnivores on its property.....

Ok, Ohio is one state. There are others, I've no doubt, but not /most/.
I've never heard of /one/ case of someone being arrested/convicted/fined
for live trapping a nuisance raccoon and translocating them, instead of
shooting them on the spot (which, OTOH, makes news occasionally).

"Live traps: Nuisance animals may also be removed by landowners (or their
designees) at any time without a Depredation Permit. Trapping in towns must
be in compliance with municipal ordinances. Live-trapped wildlife must be
released unharmed outside the municipality ¢s boundaries within 24 hours
except nuisance furbearers are not required to be released alive. Live
traps must have the trapper ¢s name and address or his vehicle operator ¢s
license number or the current vehicle license number registered to the trap
user."

http://www.agfc.com/hunting/furbeare...furbearer.aspx


http://myfwc.com/critters/Relocation.htm

....Keep in mind that relocating animals to public land is against
Florida law. A nuisance animal trapper licensed by the Fish and Wildlife
Conservation Commission may relocate animals to private lands when he or
she has the permission of the landowner.....

It's not a statewide law in Florida, it's regional.


http://tinyurl.com/3x74ee

......limited periods of time. California
Department of Fish & Game Regulations prohibit the relocation
of raccoons and other wildlife without written permission of the
Department. For further information on the legal status of
raccoons and other wildlife, contact your California Department
of Fish & Game Regional Office....


California doesn't count. It's/they're too weird. =P

I translocate small game weekly at work. It's part of my job. I prefer it
to exterminating the animals. It's also not a crime, here.

--

Eggs

Photons have mass? I didn't even know they were Catholic.