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Hi, all,
I've been spending some time looking for a new portal to access Usenet, as we've been discussing. Before registering anywhere, I thought I'd ask a question or two. Motzarella.org has become eternal-september.org. On the home page, it is pretty clear that it supports *text* groups. Is anyone still using this, and if so can you still access abpo? Bignews.usenetmonster.com: I can find it, but it takes a loooonnnng time to download the home page. I stopped waiting after about 60 seconds. Is this normal, or is there a glitch today? Does anyone use Terranews? All info helpful and appreciated. Diana |
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Diana,
I am using motzarella aka eternal-september, and have abpo fine. It is in their list of groups... Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info! -----Original Message----- From: Diana Kulaga ] Posted At: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:33 PM Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids Conversation: Looking for a new server.... Subject: Looking for a new server.... Hi, all, I've been spending some time looking for a new portal to access Usenet, as we've been discussing. Before registering anywhere, I thought I'd ask a question or two. Motzarella.org has become eternal-september.org. On the home page, it is pretty clear that it supports *text* groups. Is anyone still using this, and if so can you still access abpo? Bignews.usenetmonster.com: I can find it, but it takes a loooonnnng time to download the home page. I stopped waiting after about 60 seconds. Is this normal, or is there a glitch today? Does anyone use Terranews? All info helpful and appreciated. Diana |
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:33:02 -0400 in Diana Kulaga wrote:
Hi, all, I've been spending some time looking for a new portal to access Usenet, as we've been discussing. Before registering anywhere, I thought I'd ask a question or two. You know you can register for multiple ones. Motzarella.org has become eternal-september.org. On the home page, it is pretty clear that it supports *text* groups. Is anyone still using this, and if so can you still access abpo? Ray Banana added ABPO shortly after i signed on. I can see binaries posted by other eternal-september users fine. Some outside ones appear fine. I'm disinclined to do any of the pay services with binaries, so I cannot check outbound propogation. The individual that shills the Teranews $3.95 one time fee can sign up for an eternal-september account, post a binary, and check propagation. Bignews.usenetmonster.com: I can find it, but it takes a loooonnnng time to download the home page. I stopped waiting after about 60 seconds. Is this normal, or is there a glitch today? Does anyone use Terranews? Look in the farewell thread. The guy that shill's Teranews just posted again on that thread. All info helpful and appreciated. You should have started looking for free text USENET providers and started using them last year. Considering a recent lawsuit where a binaries USENET providers was found liable for distributing copyrighted material it did not have license to distribute, I reiterate "Start using something like flickr. Post the URLs to your pictures in USENET postings that describe your wonderful photos." One of the things on my plate for my second job is providing an image gallery service to those that don't like the terms and conditions on flickr. Unfortunately, that means a pay service. Diana -- Chris Dukes |
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Thanks, guys. Chris, I know about Flickr. It does seem a bit limited as far
as discussion is concerned. There is always the Facebook option, too. Diana wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:33:02 -0400 in Diana Kulaga wrote: Hi, all, I've been spending some time looking for a new portal to access Usenet, as we've been discussing. Before registering anywhere, I thought I'd ask a question or two. You know you can register for multiple ones. Motzarella.org has become eternal-september.org. On the home page, it is pretty clear that it supports *text* groups. Is anyone still using this, and if so can you still access abpo? Ray Banana added ABPO shortly after i signed on. I can see binaries posted by other eternal-september users fine. Some outside ones appear fine. I'm disinclined to do any of the pay services with binaries, so I cannot check outbound propogation. The individual that shills the Teranews $3.95 one time fee can sign up for an eternal-september account, post a binary, and check propagation. Bignews.usenetmonster.com: I can find it, but it takes a loooonnnng time to download the home page. I stopped waiting after about 60 seconds. Is this normal, or is there a glitch today? Does anyone use Terranews? Look in the farewell thread. The guy that shill's Teranews just posted again on that thread. All info helpful and appreciated. You should have started looking for free text USENET providers and started using them last year. Considering a recent lawsuit where a binaries USENET providers was found liable for distributing copyrighted material it did not have license to distribute, I reiterate "Start using something like flickr. Post the URLs to your pictures in USENET postings that describe your wonderful photos." One of the things on my plate for my second job is providing an image gallery service to those that don't like the terms and conditions on flickr. Unfortunately, that means a pay service. Diana -- Chris Dukes |
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Diana Kulaga wrote:
Thanks, guys. Chris, I know about Flickr. It does seem a bit limited as far as discussion is concerned. There is always the Facebook option, too. Diana And there's gardenbanter.co.uk which show both rgo and abpo. K |
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K Barrett wrote:
Diana Kulaga wrote: Thanks, guys. Chris, I know about Flickr. It does seem a bit limited as far as discussion is concerned. There is always the Facebook option, too. Diana And there's gardenbanter.co.uk which show both rgo and abpo. K Found abpo on matzarella, Yippee! I'm in! K |
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Diana Kulaga wrote:
Hi, all, I've been spending some time looking for a new portal to access Usenet, as we've been discussing. Before registering anywhere, I thought I'd ask a question or two. Motzarella.org has become eternal-september.org. On the home page, it is pretty clear that it supports *text* groups. Is anyone still using this, and if so can you still access abpo? Bignews.usenetmonster.com: I can find it, but it takes a loooonnnng time to download the home page. I stopped waiting after about 60 seconds. Is this normal, or is there a glitch today? Does anyone use Terranews? All info helpful and appreciated. Diana I tried both teranews and motzarella last summer when my ISP was messed up; neither worked and neither seems to have any tech assistance - or at least any that would respond to queries and requests for help. I gave up. Eventually my ISP got itself figured out, and I have newsgroup access again. |
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I'll sign on to Motzarella tomorrow.
Diana "tenman" wrote in message ... Diana Kulaga wrote: Hi, all, I've been spending some time looking for a new portal to access Usenet, as we've been discussing. Before registering anywhere, I thought I'd ask a question or two. Motzarella.org has become eternal-september.org. On the home page, it is pretty clear that it supports *text* groups. Is anyone still using this, and if so can you still access abpo? Bignews.usenetmonster.com: I can find it, but it takes a loooonnnng time to download the home page. I stopped waiting after about 60 seconds. Is this normal, or is there a glitch today? Does anyone use Terranews? All info helpful and appreciated. Diana I tried both teranews and motzarella last summer when my ISP was messed up; neither worked and neither seems to have any tech assistance - or at least any that would respond to queries and requests for help. I gave up. Eventually my ISP got itself figured out, and I have newsgroup access again. |
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What facebook option?
Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info! -----Original Message----- From: Diana Kulaga ] Posted At: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:28 PM Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids Conversation: Looking for a new server.... Subject: Looking for a new server.... Thanks, guys. Chris, I know about Flickr. It does seem a bit limited as far as discussion is concerned. There is always the Facebook option, too. Diana wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:33:02 -0400 in Diana Kulaga wrote: Hi, all, I've been spending some time looking for a new portal to access Usenet, as we've been discussing. Before registering anywhere, I thought I'd ask a question or two. You know you can register for multiple ones. Motzarella.org has become eternal-september.org. On the home page, it is pretty clear that it supports *text* groups. Is anyone still using this, and if so can you still access abpo? Ray Banana added ABPO shortly after i signed on. I can see binaries posted by other eternal-september users fine. Some outside ones appear fine. I'm disinclined to do any of the pay services with binaries, so I cannot check outbound propogation. The individual that shills the Teranews $3.95 one time fee can sign up for an eternal-september account, post a binary, and check propagation. Bignews.usenetmonster.com: I can find it, but it takes a loooonnnng time to download the home page. I stopped waiting after about 60 seconds. Is this normal, or is there a glitch today? Does anyone use Terranews? Look in the farewell thread. The guy that shill's Teranews just posted again on that thread. All info helpful and appreciated. You should have started looking for free text USENET providers and started using them last year. Considering a recent lawsuit where a binaries USENET providers was found liable for distributing copyrighted material it did not have license to distribute, I reiterate "Start using something like flickr. Post the URLs to your pictures in USENET postings that describe your wonderful photos." One of the things on my plate for my second job is providing an image gallery service to those that don't like the terms and conditions on flickr. Unfortunately, that means a pay service. Diana -- Chris Dukes |
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We all sign up on facebook and join the growing orchid community there.
The mystery group I read has a growing group of mystery fans there too. I have no idea how well this works, but am tempted. I worry about the timesuck factor. K Barrett Ray B wrote: What facebook option? Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info! -----Original Message----- From: Diana Kulaga ] Posted At: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:28 PM Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids Conversation: Looking for a new server.... Subject: Looking for a new server.... Thanks, guys. Chris, I know about Flickr. It does seem a bit limited as far as discussion is concerned. There is always the Facebook option, too. Diana |
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Actually, Facebook can be better than that; we could have our own group. One
of our society members set up a restricted Facebook group for us. You can't join it unless an admin okays you. He made me an admin, and I get reminders when a member wants to sign up for the group. From what I know so far, you can assign anyone to be an admin. Then you have your own board, where anyone who is in the group can start or participate in threads, post pictures, etc. And no spam. You don't have to do all the junk that is available on Facebook (*what kind of animal are you?*; *so and so wants to add your birthday to his calendar*, etc.). We could use it purely as a message/binaries posting center. It's not the wild west that Usenet is, but we can allow others to join. I'm new to it, and I'm not familiar with how to set up a restricted group. But hey, how hard can it be? Diana "K Barrett" wrote in message ... We all sign up on facebook and join the growing orchid community there. The mystery group I read has a growing group of mystery fans there too. I have no idea how well this works, but am tempted. I worry about the timesuck factor. K Barrett Ray B wrote: What facebook option? Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info! -----Original Message----- From: Diana Kulaga ] Posted At: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:28 PM Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids Conversation: Looking for a new server.... Subject: Looking for a new server.... Thanks, guys. Chris, I know about Flickr. It does seem a bit limited as far as discussion is concerned. There is always the Facebook option, too. Diana |
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Here's a link to the Port St. Lucie group page:
http://www.facebook.com/reqs.php#/gr...d=109020051583 Bear in mind that it is new, so it doesn't have a lot of content yet. Diana "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message . .. Actually, Facebook can be better than that; we could have our own group. One of our society members set up a restricted Facebook group for us. You can't join it unless an admin okays you. He made me an admin, and I get reminders when a member wants to sign up for the group. From what I know so far, you can assign anyone to be an admin. Then you have your own board, where anyone who is in the group can start or participate in threads, post pictures, etc. And no spam. You don't have to do all the junk that is available on Facebook (*what kind of animal are you?*; *so and so wants to add your birthday to his calendar*, etc.). We could use it purely as a message/binaries posting center. It's not the wild west that Usenet is, but we can allow others to join. I'm new to it, and I'm not familiar with how to set up a restricted group. But hey, how hard can it be? Diana "K Barrett" wrote in message ... We all sign up on facebook and join the growing orchid community there. The mystery group I read has a growing group of mystery fans there too. I have no idea how well this works, but am tempted. I worry about the timesuck factor. K Barrett Ray B wrote: What facebook option? Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info! -----Original Message----- From: Diana Kulaga ] Posted At: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:28 PM Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids Conversation: Looking for a new server.... Subject: Looking for a new server.... Thanks, guys. Chris, I know about Flickr. It does seem a bit limited as far as discussion is concerned. There is always the Facebook option, too. Diana |
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Diana, it's time for me to come out from the shadows. I have followed
the usenet orchid groups for many years. I just chose not to participate for a variety of reasons. My wife, SuE, was an active participant for many years but lately has been silent. While I still have usenet access thru my isp, I also subscribe to Giganews (very reliable and has GREAT retention). I pay about $10 / month. Kye is very generous. Do you really think that his cost is zero. I'm not sure it's fair for him to subsidize all of us, but that's his decision. The larger problem, as I see it, is that using Kye's group (not part of usenet) or a restricted Facebook group will severely restrict any participation by new orchid growers. They will not know where to go for information. If the intent is to keep this a private club, with minimal new participation, then this is the way to go. But, if we want to grow the hobby, we must make the discussions visible to all that are interested. I don't know what is the long term future of usenet, but it's still here. Many folks may need to pay for access but that is their decision. Free options are around with limitations. John Erickson Diana Kulaga wrote: Actually, Facebook can be better than that; we could have our own group. One of our society members set up a restricted Facebook group for us. You can't join it unless an admin okays you. He made me an admin, and I get reminders when a member wants to sign up for the group. From what I know so far, you can assign anyone to be an admin. Then you have your own board, where anyone who is in the group can start or participate in threads, post pictures, etc. And no spam. You don't have to do all the junk that is available on Facebook (*what kind of animal are you?*; *so and so wants to add your birthday to his calendar*, etc.). We could use it purely as a message/binaries posting center. It's not the wild west that Usenet is, but we can allow others to join. I'm new to it, and I'm not familiar with how to set up a restricted group. But hey, how hard can it be? Diana "K Barrett" wrote in message ... We all sign up on facebook and join the growing orchid community there. The mystery group I read has a growing group of mystery fans there too. I have no idea how well this works, but am tempted. I worry about the timesuck factor. K Barrett Ray B wrote: What facebook option? Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, & Lots of Free Info! -----Original Message----- From: Diana Kulaga ] Posted At: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:28 PM Posted To: rec.gardens.orchids Conversation: Looking for a new server.... Subject: Looking for a new server.... Thanks, guys. Chris, I know about Flickr. It does seem a bit limited as far as discussion is concerned. There is always the Facebook option, too. Diana |
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:27:44 -0400 in Diana Kulaga wrote:
Thanks, guys. Chris, I know about Flickr. It does seem a bit limited as far as discussion is concerned. There is always the Facebook option, too. How exactly am i unclear here? Post the picture on flikr. Post URL to picture or group of pictures and description of it here. Discussion happens here. Just because you post the picture on flikr doesn't mean it gets discussed on flikr. In fact, I'd generally not recommend discussing flikr photos on flikr. They're a great image dump site, they suck for communications. -- Chris Dukes |
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:27:44 -0400 in Diana Kulaga wrote:
Thanks, guys. Chris, I know about Flickr. It does seem a bit limited as far as discussion is concerned. There is always the Facebook option, too. And for me, facebook is *NOT* an option. I don't have the time to sufficiently falsify a persona for every activity I might possibly want to do on facebook. I don't want my real information anywhere near facebook as the owner of any application on facebook gets full access to your information. For added joy... deleting something from facebook doesn't actually delete it. It generally just marks it to not automatically stick it into a link or image tag on your page. If someone has the absolute URL to it it's like it was never deleted. My wife and kids use it, and my conclusion is "It embraces every reason I never set foot on my highschool since I graduated." -- Chris Dukes |
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