On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:41:59 CST, ~ jan wrote:


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Ugly, unless it is possible to make it taunt.
...

That's a pretty novel idea. What should the net taunt? Predators?
The owner?
--
Galen Hekhuis
I may have mispoken

it doesnt work when they are hungry.

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 20:59:07 CST, "George"
wrote:
I've heard it said that herons are territorial and will not come around
when another heron is around.

there are also "earth staples" that I use to hold down landscape
fabric and soaker hoses under mulch.

On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 04:45:55 CST, "Carole \(UK\)"
wrote:
I used wire 'corners' which I snip off each end
of wire hangers to peg the netting - they make very flexible pegs which can
be pushed into small cracks, they are strong and virtually invisible.

netting doesnt have to be low over a pond. it can be very high, like
pulled taut between trees. and netting on the sides doesnt need to be
near the pond, it can be quite far away. we use fine black bird
netting on aluminum conduit to prevent deer getting to stuff.
Ingrid

... when you arent there.
the Pond Lady had several ponds for at least 20-30 years and Sandhill
cranes everywhere... no herons. all of a sudden she got hit and they
kept coming back. once they find you they tell all their friends too.
Ingrid

On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 04:45:26 CST, "Goldlexus"
wrote:
Another question, are there certain times of day that
they may come around?

Galen wrote What should the net taunt? Predators?
The owner?

LOL! Oh, the owner, definitely.

k :-)

Galen wrote What should the net taunt? Predators?
The owner?

LOL! Oh, the owner, definitely.
k :-)

If the net isn't TAUT it taunts the owner. When it is taut it taunts the
predators. :-p

Now y'all stop taunting me. ~ jan :-)
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

I bet you're happier dealing with the sprinkler than the net
anyway. ;-) ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds:www.jjspond.us

We've all gotten sprinkled - don't mind it especially in the heat.
It's much better than looking at the netting.
Bonnie
NJ

"Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:41:59 CST, ~ jan wrote:


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Ugly, unless it is possible to make it taunt.
...

That's a pretty novel idea. What should the net taunt? Predators?
The owner?
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She means very tight. :-) She's apparently seen sloppily netted ponds
where the net is loose and falling in the water. I've seen one like that
myself. Where I live you either net your pond or give up on fish.
--

RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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"~ jan" wrote in message
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As far as the hose popping off,

I didn't say popping off. The hose it self splits or "pops". I've even had
expensive hoses split, not just the cheapos from K-Mart. We never leave
pressure on a hose anymore.

I've NEVER had that happen in the years I
was using a hose. To free up use of a hose though, DS hard piped all my
motion sprinkler connections and put the pipe under ground directly to the
spot I wanted.

This is an excellent idea for those with the expertise to it.

I've been using 2 of them now between 5-7 years, never a
problem. No different in my mind than running ones automated sprinklers.
And as far as going OOT, one should ALWAYS have a pond sitter anyway.

I wish we could find a pond sitter. You can't even find teens who want to
make a few bucks anymore. :-(


Now let's talk about the cons of nets:

Ugly, unless it is possible to make it taunt.
In the way, unless one can put it high overhead.

It is in the way if you're the type to enter your pond quote often,
something I don't do. When necessary to enter one of the ponds, we pull the
net back. That takes about 3 to 4 minutes. And no, it's not something I
would want to do once or twice a day.

Too low the heron strikes thru and the plants grow thru and get tangled.
If not taunt enough leaves lay on it and droop into the water, gill
netting
fish or just polluting the water like a tea bag.

This is a problem as some people do pull the net too low. Easily cured with
those dark green garden fences at Wal*Mart. As for polluting the water like
a teabag.... the leaves that fall in with no net do the same thing. Motion
sprinklers don't stop the leaves falling to the bottom and rotting.

If too high, or any accidental openings, a heron will fly in and walk
under.

The net is pulled over the garden fence or whatever the person uses and
secured to the ground. That's how it keeps out the snappers, large snakes,
coons, bullfrogs, water birds and the neighbors cats, dogs and kids. ;-)

Shall I go on? I have some real ponders stories I could share. ~ jan

No need to go on Jan. You never saw a pond "correctly" netted. I can
understand that if you don't have all these predators where you live. Some
of us are coping with a lot more than an occasional heron.
--

RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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From Carol

"Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:41:59 CST, ~ jan wrote:


...
Ugly, unless it is possible to make it taunt.
...

That's a pretty novel idea. What should the net taunt? Predators?
The owner?
=========================
She means very tight. :-) She's apparently seen sloppily netted ponds
where the net is loose and falling in the water. I've seen one like that
myself. Where I live you either net your pond or give up on fish.
--

RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

No need to go on Jan. You never saw a pond "correctly" netted.

I have seen many a pond "correctly" netted, thankyouverymuch. President of
my club has her whole back yard netted using the top of her 6 foot fence
and wire cables. When I say correctly though, I mean a pond that is still
easy to get to and not net blocking the view.

As far as leaves in the pond with a sprinkler, easily taken care of with
skimmer, or skimmer net. True Fall is a whole different discussion, and too
early in the season to go there.

I can understand that if you don't have all these predators where you live. Some
of us are coping with a lot more than an occasional heron.

But we weren't trying to solve your problem. That's what gets me, someone
asks for suggestions, and if anything other than a net is suggested you
jump all over it in the negative. Give them the positive about your
solution, and let me do so also. Thank you, ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

In my travels thru internet ponding I've
read some unique and interesting solutions
to heron problems....

~ the human/dog solution. This fellow decided the
heron would be scared of dogs and so he
decided to make like a dog. Dropped down on
all fours and barked like a dog. Lacks dignity.

~ the SUV solution. One woman got so
incensed at seeing the heron at her pond
when she arrived home that she drove her
SUV thru a rockwall in her landscaping to
get to the bird without having to park the
SUV. Expensive.

~ the naked ponder solution. One woman,
taking a shower, peeked thru her bathroom
window and spotted a heron at her pond. She
leaped out of the shower, dashed from the house
and screeched at the heron in all her birthday
suit glory. Danger of being posted on UTube.

k :-)

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:40:31 CST, k wrote:

and screeched at the heron in all her birthday
suit glory. Danger of being posted on UTube.

LOL! A fear we didn't have just a few years ago. ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

"~ jan" wrote in message
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But we weren't trying to solve your problem.

Jan, the man from the wildlife service told me some years ago that where
they are herons there are usually other fish predators. If someone's fish
are disappearing it's not necessarily all the work of the heron they spotted
fishing on their berm one day. They can spend $100 on a motion sprinkler
just to find fish still going missing. Nothing wrong with recommending the
sprinklers but I think they should be aware that herons may not be the only
one feasting at their pondside.

That's what gets me, someone
asks for suggestions, and if anything other than a net is suggested you
jump all over it in the negative.

See above.

Give them the positive about your
solution, and let me do so also. Thank you, ~ jan

I just want them to realize they may have more than herons to contend with.
They may buy one or more motion sprinklers just to find the fish are still
going missing - and why.

--

RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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