I had planned on building a 3' high veggie filter kind of like a
concrete block horse trough, tho prettier. However, I could also build
it inground with the earth as the sides and liner for leak-proofing.
I'm in Phoenix so rainfall and boggy area not a real concern.

Aboveground
Pro- Easier to clean with a bottom drain
Don't have to stoop over or kneel to work with plants
Can have waterfall start right off it's lip
Con- More money to build
Talent to build it strong enough to hold water securely

Inground
Pro- Easier, quicker, cheaper to build
Con- My back ain't what it used to be
Need 2nd pump to lift water to top of falls and for drain

What are your experiences w/ veggie filter problems and solutions above-
vs. inground?

Chip

In article , Chip wrote:

I had planned on building a 3' high veggie filter kind of like a
concrete block horse trough, tho prettier. However, I could also build
it inground with the earth as the sides and liner for leak-proofing.
I'm in Phoenix so rainfall and boggy area not a real concern.

Aboveground
Pro- Easier to clean with a bottom drain
Don't have to stoop over or kneel to work with plants
Can have waterfall start right off it's lip
Con- More money to build
Talent to build it strong enough to hold water securely

Inground
Pro- Easier, quicker, cheaper to build
Con- My back ain't what it used to be
Need 2nd pump to lift water to top of falls and for drain

What are your experiences w/ veggie filter problems and solutions above-
vs. inground?

Chip

I'm relandscaping my pond and going to add an inground veggie filter.
Seemed to make more sense for a natural looking pond. Will have it
higher than my primary pond.
My 53 year-old back is still in fine form (knock on wood), so digging
starts this weekend. That hard laabor always gets the kinks out, too.
Great catharsis.

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We went above ground for the reasons you stated. You can see it on
the pond link with our Google profile. We used treated 2 x 8 lumber
for the sides and allowed the EDPM to be the bottom. Easy to build.
The bottom drains (2") make it a breeze to clean the ponds. A berm is
a small hill. We had the dirt dumped, shaped it with a tractor and
box blade and dug the holes for the berms and waterfalls. Doesn't
look as much fake as it does add a backdrop tot he pond...we think.

Jim

I think 8-12" is optimal for a veggie filter. you just need a bit of length, 10' or
so. mine is constructed of wood right over my pond so even if it leaks, the leak
goes back into the pond.
http://weloveteaching.com/mypond/2000/details.htm

make the veggie filter look like a pretty wooden flower box and in addition to the
stuff grows in the water bare root put in flowers in pots with just 1-2 inches of the
bottom of the pot in the water. the flowers do superbly and never have to be watered
..... LOL.
http://weloveteaching.com/mypond/changes/changes2.htm

Ingrid


On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:59:25 EDT, Chip wrote:

I had planned on building a 3' high veggie filter kind of like a
concrete block horse trough, tho prettier. However, I could also build
it inground with the earth as the sides and liner for leak-proofing.
I'm in Phoenix so rainfall and boggy area not a real concern.

Aboveground
Pro- Easier to clean with a bottom drain
Don't have to stoop over or kneel to work with plants
Can have waterfall start right off it's lip
Con- More money to build
Talent to build it strong enough to hold water securely

Inground
Pro- Easier, quicker, cheaper to build
Con- My back ain't what it used to be
Need 2nd pump to lift water to top of falls and for drain

What are your experiences w/ veggie filter problems and solutions above-
vs. inground?

Chip

Hey gang.. haven't had much time to participate in the group this year.

Finally brok down and bought a larger kidney shaped pond for my veggie
filter.. I'm replacing the upper pondlet I made last year, and I have an
edpm liner for the stream and small waterfall going back into the pond.

What's the best way to glue the epdm to the preformed pond? Great Stuff?
I've slanted the kidney preform so the water flows down the end, and theb
n
want it to flow down the epdm stream into the pond. I figured great stuff

might be the only practical solution, since it's water tight, and sticks
to
everything.

Ideas, or will great stuff do the trick?

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Gareee©

EDPM flexes and would be likely to pull away. We have used
compression and EDPM roofing glue to ensure a tight connection.
Alternatively, perhaps it could flow out of the preform and land in an
EDPM pool or land on a slope at the top of the stream (No splash).

2 cents worth of ideas for free

Jim

"Phyllis and Jim" wrote in message
...
EDPM flexes and would be likely to pull away. We have used
compression and EDPM roofing glue to ensure a tight connection.
Alternatively, perhaps it could flow out of the preform and land in an
EDPM pool or land on a slope at the top of the stream (No splash).

2 cents worth of ideas for free

Jim

Well, the lip on the preformed pond is only 2 inches or so.. not sure if I
trust the waterflow rate to spill out of it without something actually
extending it.

Reason I asked about great stuff, was that I had it connecting a few rocks
together we just removed for the new work.. great stuff is actually holding
a 20 lb or more flagstone rock by it's edge, without budging an inch! I knew
it was sticky, and would stick to anything, but I never dreamed it had that
kind of strength!

I could probably build a great stuff spillway just below the lip, since I
know it'll stick to the preformed pond. I'll just fold the epdm as high as I
can under the lip, and hope it catches all the down spill.

I'll take some pics when things are along more... but today it was over 90
and full sun out there by 1pm, and I just wanted to stay indoors in the air
conditioning!

Gareee