Made 1 last year - some good/some bad. I was wondering if anyone here
has done it?

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theilliniguy wrote:

Made 1 last year - some good/some bad. I was wondering if anyone here
has done it?

Have seen some nice ones at a local Thai restaurant. Quite large pot.
Only a couple plants & mosquito fish, but had a light at the bottom so
the effect, more at night, was stunning.
How did you seal yours?

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On Apr 30, 9:45 pm, Kurt wrote:
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theilliniguy wrote:
Made 1 last year - some good/some bad. I was wondering if anyone her
e
has done it?

Have seen some nice ones at a local Thai restaurant. Quite large pot.
Only a couple plants & mosquito fish, but had a light at the bottom so
the effect, more at night, was stunning.
How did you seal yours?

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It wasn't sealed - but of course goldfish eating racoons were my new
friend. So, I'm looking for suggestions on improving the whole
process.

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It wasn't sealed - but of course goldfish eating racoons were my new
friend. So, I'm looking for suggestions on improving the whole
process.
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Everything likes to eat goldfish and koi it seems. With the fish
gone (sold them all) all I've seen around the ponds are one
large black whip snake.
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rec.ponder since late 1996.
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theilliniguy wrote:

On Apr 30, 9:45 pm, Kurt wrote:
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theilliniguy wrote:
Made 1 last year - some good/some bad. I was wondering if anyone her
e
has done it?

Have seen some nice ones at a local Thai restaurant. Quite large pot.
Only a couple plants & mosquito fish, but had a light at the bottom so
the effect, more at night, was stunning.
How did you seal yours?

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It wasn't sealed - but of course goldfish eating racoons were my new
friend. So, I'm looking for suggestions on improving the whole
process.

Large round grates would solve that problem and look cool. Rusty iron
ones would have a nice aesthetic with a large pot

What was your process, BTW?

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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:31:30 EDT, theilliniguy
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Made 1 last year - some good/some bad. I was wondering if anyone here
has done it?

I've been giving classes for many years on what I call Ponsai (as in small
pond similar to Bonsai, small plant in container). Some as small as a
gallon or 2, others barrel size. You can see some of them on my website.
The one called a Pondsai by The Plant Place on Page 4 was a free trial gone
awry. It was fish friendly w/guppies what my trial was about, but it leaked
after 6 months. It sure was cute though. ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

I have pondlets on my kitchen window sill. Gets you through the
winter :-)

Glass containers full anacharis (underwater plant), duckweed and
snails.

I've got a mini cattails growing in another one.

k :-)

On Fri, 29 May 2009 09:26:34 EDT, theilliniguy
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Process was 40 gallon (approx) composite flower pot. Filled 1/2 with
gravel/rock. 3 large "structure" stones. Water. Conditioner. Lily
plant, 3 other types of plants (2 types grass in mud pots and 1
floater). 6 goldfish. No aeration.

Seemed to work real well until coons would fish and turn plants over.
Then it got real muddy/dirty and had to be rebuilt.

For a while the fish kept dying off. Gal at local pet store sold me a
plant that would absorb some of the oxygen from the other plants. She
aid excess oxygen was burning their gills. Coons got the next batch
before I could really tell.

Excess oxygen was burning their gills?!!!! You sure you heard right?
:-)

It definitely wasn't excess O2, but lack thereof. 40 gallons with no
filtration or aeration is not enough water for 6 goldfish to last long.
Maybe 2 tiny ones at best, and still an airstone should be in place
minimum, imho. I have an aquarium with more gallons and a huge filter with
6 goldfish. I suspect it was excess ammonia that fried your fishes' gills,
plus low O2, if anything.

I too have problems with raccoons around my smaller containers. I found
wire fencing around them, 3' high (not over the top) is enough to keep them
out. Too flimsy for them to climb, yet firm enough not to collapse. Here
they're going for my tadpoles, not goldfish. Both pond areas have motion
sprinklers and the koi pond has a hot wire on at night. Currently I have a
broom in the middle of my yard from tossing it at the one raiding the
squirrel feeder last night. I'm keeping the feeders near empty now by
evening hoping they eventually quit visiting, way too many of those
critters in the neighborhood the last couple years. ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

On Fri, 29 May 2009 09:26:51 EDT, theilliniguy
wrote:

I notice you seem to have aeration in all though. The pot ponds I
found elsewhere on the web did not so I did not either. Didn't want to see
wires/tubes running to pot I guess.

If you don't want wires & tubes I wouldn't do goldfish, maybe some minnow,
or mosquito fish. Otherwise use mosquito dunks. My patio pond has a cut out
under the wood trim so the wire didn't go over the top. I like moving
water, less skuzzy, spitters are always cool. ;-) You can always hide wires
and tubing with plants... even silk plants until the others get going.
There are small solar fountains, use to be they didn't run at night, don't
know if they have improved them. ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

On Sun, 31 May 2009 09:32:52 EDT, theilliniguy
wrote:

I prolly heard wrong! The gold fish I'm using are the very small
"feeder" fish too FYI.

Unless your state rules/laws are different than Washington St. where the
only feeder fish allow here are goldfish. They're probably goldfish or
maybe Rosy Reds (a cream to light orange) fish. Those have been out-lawed
here. They're pretty hardy usually, why I still think you had young
GF.

A gal at the per store told me I needed oxygenating plants

Any plant that has most of its greenery above the water line is not an
oxygenating plant. They do remove nitrates after the cycle of ammonia to
nitrites to nitrates has happened, some even remove ammonia/nitrite direct,
but I don't know which do. Maybe WHyacinths? The only oxygenating plants
are ones like underwater grasses and various or similar to anacharis (that
is also outlawed here). Hornwort is another. None of them oxygenate after
the sun goes down when fish often need it most.

whattsa dunk?

http://www.summitchemical.com/view-products.aspx?id=8
or Bits:
http://www.pestproducts.com/mosquito_bits.htm

any online sources of photos? equipment? so I know what to look for
and how to do?

http://www.dripdepot.com/ to add to Rodney's Aquarium websites.

Btw, you can also get tubing (same size as aquarium tubing) in various
colors, our Lowe's had it in maroon, dark green & light tan besides black.
One can make air bubblers out of the drip line, but one needs to hold it
under by weights or tucked under pots edges as it floats. Drip materials
are in the sprinkler section of your local hardware store usually. ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

On Apr 30, 5:31 pm, theilliniguy wrote:
Made 1 last year - some good/some bad. I was wondering if anyone here
has done it?

Got the 2009 version up and "running". I have a pic that I could post
somewhere and you folks could critique?