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Snail eradication?
How would I go about eradicating the snails in my pond?
The targeted snails are egg layers, but I don't know how long it takes the eggs to hatch. this variety reaches almost 1/2" diameter and a bit longer when measured from the spiral, or longer side. They are mostly black in color and seem to eat everything, but like plants. I also wish to reduce the numbers of goldfish and plan to drain the 1500 gallon pond and a little planning now seems like a good idea. DNR recommends using a pressure washer on boats and allow them to dry for 5 days, to keep from transferring snails from one body of water to another. I read another person used bleach and scrubbed the tank to eradicate snails. I have a gas mask and hip boots, but don't look forward to this as my first choice, although it sounds like it might be a good one. I haven't been able to find useful information about copper and aluminum, except some general comments. I need more specific data to use these agents. Your comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Hal |
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Hal wrote:
How would I go about eradicating the snails in my pond? The targeted snails are egg layers, but I don't know how long it takes the eggs to hatch. this variety reaches almost 1/2" diameter and a bit longer when measured from the spiral, or longer side. They are mostly black in color and seem to eat everything, but like plants. I also wish to reduce the numbers of goldfish and plan to drain the 1500 gallon pond and a little planning now seems like a good idea. DNR recommends using a pressure washer on boats and allow them to dry for 5 days, to keep from transferring snails from one body of water to another. I read another person used bleach and scrubbed the tank to eradicate snails. I have a gas mask and hip boots, but don't look forward to this as my first choice, although it sounds like it might be a good one. I haven't been able to find useful information about copper and aluminum, except some general comments. I need more specific data to use these agents. Your comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Hal You get Carol to bathe in it. |
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On Mon, 08 May 2006 10:37:52 -0400, Hal wrote:
How would I go about eradicating the snails in my pond? Non-chemical, a couple of koi, course they won't get them in the filter. I've never heard of snails eating live plants, except the Apple Snail, which gets humongous. Or.... wait till water gets tropically warm, and get a few clown fish or loaches, supposedly they're deadly on snails. You'll have to remove these fish though before cold weather. Now if you want to go to the point of sterilizing and having to go thru the whole pond start-up again, yes, you can run bleach. I'm not sure what the ratio would be to do the job ... but this wouldn't necessarily be good for your plants, and that's where all the eggs usually are. Potassium Permanganate will usually do in snails, but doesn't always get the eggs. ~ jan -------------- See my ponds and filter design: www.jjspond.us ~Keep 'em Wet!~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website |
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How would I go about eradicating the snails in my pond? Why? What's the issue with the snails? Patrick The targeted snails are egg layers, but I don't know how long it takes the eggs to hatch. this variety reaches almost 1/2" diameter and a bit longer when measured from the spiral, or longer side. They are mostly black in color and seem to eat everything, but like plants. I also wish to reduce the numbers of goldfish and plan to drain the 1500 gallon pond and a little planning now seems like a good idea. DNR recommends using a pressure washer on boats and allow them to dry for 5 days, to keep from transferring snails from one body of water to another. I read another person used bleach and scrubbed the tank to eradicate snails. I have a gas mask and hip boots, but don't look forward to this as my first choice, although it sounds like it might be a good one. I haven't been able to find useful information about copper and aluminum, except some general comments. I need more specific data to use these agents. Your comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Hal |
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copper sulfate (coppersafe) really works against snails. in higher pH water is
reasonably safe even for fish. if you move the fish out then use a double strength copper sulfate. I tried everything and only copper worked really well and fast. Ingrid Hal wrote: How would I go about eradicating the snails in my pond? The targeted snails are egg layers, but I don't know how long it takes the eggs to hatch. this variety reaches almost 1/2" diameter and a bit longer when measured from the spiral, or longer side. They are mostly black in color and seem to eat everything, but like plants. I also wish to reduce the numbers of goldfish and plan to drain the 1500 gallon pond and a little planning now seems like a good idea. DNR recommends using a pressure washer on boats and allow them to dry for 5 days, to keep from transferring snails from one body of water to another. I read another person used bleach and scrubbed the tank to eradicate snails. I have a gas mask and hip boots, but don't look forward to this as my first choice, although it sounds like it might be a good one. I haven't been able to find useful information about copper and aluminum, except some general comments. I need more specific data to use these agents. Your comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Hal ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/ sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...s=Group+lookup www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website. I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan |
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Thanks, I didn't realize there was a safe dose of copper for fish, but
that will work for me. I don't want to drain the pond completely if I don't have to. I did run across an article about using copper for algae control and it states copper should not be used if the KH is below 50ppm as fish kill can result. I use limestone to keep the KH up and it often reads 1 degree although the pH stays at or above 7.8 most of the time. Sound reasonable that I could throw in some baking soda while I'm treating with copper?? Regards, Hal On Tue, 09 May 2006 03:43:33 GMT, wrote: copper sulfate (coppersafe) really works against snails. in higher pH water is reasonably safe even for fish. if you move the fish out then use a double strength copper sulfate. I tried everything and only copper worked really well and fast. Ingrid |
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On Mon, 08 May 2006 16:48:34 -0700, ~ janj
wrote: Non-chemical, a couple of koi, course they won't get them in the filter. I've never heard of snails eating live plants, except the Apple Snail, which gets humongous. You may be right, the thought of snails not eating plants never occurred to me, but I can't believe they add anything to the pond except a snack for koi and the occasional parasite. I think I would like to remove them completely, and I don't think fish will be able to do that. I realize they may be transported in again, but I'd like to start over. Regards, Hal |
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"Hal" wrote in message ... You may be right, the thought of snails not eating plants never occurred to me, but I can't believe they add anything to the pond except a snack for koi and the occasional parasite. I think I would like to remove them completely, and I don't think fish will be able to do that. I realize they may be transported in again, but I'd like to start over. ==================== If still in doubt you can call your local Dept. of Agriculture and see what they recommend. They would also know what parasites, if any, the snails in your area may carry. They would be most familiar with the conditions where you live. -- Koi-Lo.... Frugal ponding since 1995. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 rec.pond's FAQ are at: http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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Hal, Instead of using chemicals in the pond why don't you just crush them. Every day go out and crush a number on the side of the pond and the fish will eat the remains. After the fish get a taste for the snails they will eat the hatchlings right after they hatch because their shells are not hard right after hatching. You will still have the larger snails and if they bother your plants, etc. just keep crushing them when you see them. If they are not bothering your plants they will just get big and producing egg masses which the fish will eat as they hatch. Tom L.L. |
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Hal wrote:
On 8 May 2006 18:15:21 -0700, wrote: Hal wrote: How would I go about eradicating the snails in my pond? Why? What's the issue with the snails? They can carry parasites and the pond is no worse off without them. Hal, They're part of every natural pond or lake that I've ever seen so they must have a function/benefit. Patrick |
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below 50 or above 300 is not safe. Ingrid
Hal wrote: I did run across an article about using copper for algae control and it states copper should not be used if the KH is below 50ppm as fish kill can result. I use limestone to keep the KH up and it often reads 1 degree although the pH stays at or above 7.8 most of the time. Sound reasonable that I could throw in some baking soda while I'm treating with copper?? Regards, Hal ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/ sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...s=Group+lookup www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website. I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan |
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Snail eradication?
treat plants before they are put into the pond. Ingrid
Hal wrote: realize they may be transported in again, but I'd like to start over. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/ sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...s=Group+lookup www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website. I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan |
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Snail eradication?
so is schistosomiasis. our ponds are not natural and for some of us our fish are
pets we dont want to die from diseases. Ingrid wrote: They're part of every natural pond or lake that I've ever seen so they must have a function/benefit. Patrick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/ sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...s=Group+lookup www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website. I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan |
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