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bamboo and pond liners
Here's a short story that appeared on a mailing list I subscribe to
that I thought would be of interest: I love bamboo and I plant it everywhere it I can and places I probably shouldn't, like next to this pond I built 2 years ago. I dug out a hole, built up the berms down slope with some dirt I got from digging out a basement, then lined it with a piece of EPDM I scrounged from a roofer friend. I'd planted the bamboo near there two years earlier and it was just starting to get a foothold. I was so proud of my bamboo overhanging the pond; it looked so Zen. I don't know if you've ever destructively tested EPDM, but you can't tear it, and it's tough as nails. Well, (you know what's coming) the bamboo poked up a shoot right through it the next spring but it died, then (I'm theorizing now) rotted and last week the pond drained itself out just like someone unstopped a drain plug. I never thought this would happen. Now I'm in the pond-patching business. Live and learn. |
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I don't have any bamboo, but I've always loved it. I understand that the
best way to keep bamboo in one spot is to plant it in a drum, with the bottom cut out. It makes for a massive hole, but it can't send out runners that way, and (more or less) behaves itself. Maybe there's someone on the board that has first-hand experience with the stuff? Lee "Andrew Burgess" wrote in message ... Here's a short story that appeared on a mailing list I subscribe to that I thought would be of interest: I love bamboo and I plant it everywhere it I can and places I probably shouldn't, like next to this pond I built 2 years ago. I dug out a hole, built up the berms down slope with some dirt I got from digging out a basement, then lined it with a piece of EPDM I scrounged from a roofer friend. I'd planted the bamboo near there two years earlier and it was just starting to get a foothold. I was so proud of my bamboo overhanging the pond; it looked so Zen. I don't know if you've ever destructively tested EPDM, but you can't tear it, and it's tough as nails. Well, (you know what's coming) the bamboo poked up a shoot right through it the next spring but it died, then (I'm theorizing now) rotted and last week the pond drained itself out just like someone unstopped a drain plug. I never thought this would happen. Now I'm in the pond-patching business. Live and learn. |
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itself out just like someone unstopped a drain plug. I never thought this would happen. Now I'm in the pond-patching business. Live and learn. My experience is that a root of any type of plant won't pierce a pondliner unless it senses water - in other words unless it already is pierced in some way. Maybe people could clarify if Bamboo is different. I'd like to plant some dwarf species around my pond. Bamboo grows in straight lines more or less, and will grow thru anything in front of it, that it can penetrate--- it has extremly sharp and strong points at its growing end either the root or the above ground portion,,, remember that it used to be used as a torture device as it will grow right thru a person and it grows fast up to 6 inches a day -- John Rutz I'm not Porg am not am not am so see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
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"Lee Brouillet" sez:
I don't have any bamboo, but I've always loved it. I understand that the best way to keep bamboo in one spot is to plant it in a drum, with the bottom cut out. It makes for a massive hole, but it can't send out runners that way, and (more or less) behaves itself. Maybe there's someone on the board that has first-hand experience with the stuff? There are several types of bamboo, including spreading, clumping, and neither. I have some massive bamboos in my yard, planted about five years ago, that haven't spread at all. Zero. 'Cuz they're that kind. But they'd overwhelm a pond, as they're probably 30+ feet tall. Great for hiding the house next door. |
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On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:34:22 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Burgess
wrote: Here's a short story that appeared on a mailing list I subscribe to that I thought would be of interest: I love bamboo and I plant it everywhere it I can and places I probably shouldn't, like next to this pond I built 2 years ago. I dug out a hole, built up the berms down slope with some dirt I got from digging out a basement, then lined it with a piece of EPDM I scrounged from a roofer friend. I'd planted the bamboo near there two years earlier and it was just starting to get a foothold. I was so proud of my bamboo overhanging the pond; it looked so Zen. I don't know if you've ever destructively tested EPDM, but you can't tear it, and it's tough as nails. Well, (you know what's coming) the bamboo poked up a shoot right through it the next spring but it died, then (I'm theorizing now) rotted and last week the pond drained itself out just like someone unstopped a drain plug. I never thought this would happen. Now I'm in the pond-patching business. Live and learn. We had bamboo in our yard in our last house. It was there when we bought the house, and I thought it was beautiful. Well... It was the invasive type, and it spread like wildfire. I never really did succeed at controling it. I've been told that you can dig a trench around it about a foot deep and a foot wide, and that will successfully stop it, which I believe, since the runners are very shallow. However by the time I learned of this method, more than 25% of my yard was covered. I was convinced that one day I was going to go into the basement, and there would be a 6 foot bamboo stalk growing up through my foundation! So we moved. (Only kidding... sort of) Seriously, there is a very informative site at http://www.bamboo.org/ that had some good tips for anyone who wants to grow or contain it. Cheers Laura |
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Bamboo rhizomes will easily pierce rubber pond liners.
So will Phragmites. Hard plastic ponds so far have been immune. A damaged one would make a great bamboo container and I bet you could purchase one cheaply. |
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my DH planted the running kind of bamboo-- as it was heading towards the
pond, I read what bamboo can do and he put in a below ground fence of roof flashing to keep it from the pond-- the roots are very near the surface. This has saved us and we have a lot of privacy between our house and the neighbor's house-- but I am sure whoever lives here after us will curse us every day of their lives!! We could use a visit from a panda. "A portrait is a painting with something wrong with the mouth." John Singer Sargent |
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"Lee Brouillet" wrote in message
... I don't have any bamboo, but I've always loved it. I understand that the best way to keep bamboo in one spot is to plant it in a drum, with the bottom cut out. It makes for a massive hole, but it can't send out runners that way, and (more or less) behaves itself. Maybe there's someone on the board that has first-hand experience with the stuff? I think it also depends on the variety of bamboo. Not all types are so invasive. Check out rec.gardens.bamboo, there's plenty of experience over there. BV. |
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"Lee Brouillet" wrote in message
... I don't have any bamboo, but I've always loved it. I understand that the best way to keep bamboo in one spot is to plant it in a drum, with the bottom cut out. It makes for a massive hole, but it can't send out runners that way, and (more or less) behaves itself. Maybe there's someone on the board that has first-hand experience with the stuff? I think it also depends on the variety of bamboo. Not all types are so invasive. Check out rec.gardens.bamboo, there's plenty of experience over there. BV. |
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bamboo WILL grow straight any pond liner. Even the miniature varieties. All
bamboo will spread by runners, These can go OVER anything as well as UNDER. You wil need AT LEAST a 24" DEEP barrier to make sure they don't down under it. 36" would be better.. The Koi Guy |
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"Beecrofter" wrote in message om... Bamboo rhizomes will easily pierce rubber pond liners. So will Phragmites. [snip] I've heard a couple of opinions that state the bamboo rhizome will self seal after piercing the pond liner. Even if the rhizome dies it may be a long time before it decays enough for the liner to leak. Darrell |
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"justnews" wrote in message thlink.net...
"Beecrofter" wrote in message om... Bamboo rhizomes will easily pierce rubber pond liners. So will Phragmites. [snip] I've heard a couple of opinions that state the bamboo rhizome will self seal after piercing the pond liner. Even if the rhizome dies it may be a long time before it decays enough for the liner to leak. Darrell It might eventually. But the fish and plants and pumps kind of depend on continuous water. |
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