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23-06-2006, 02:50 PM
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I've had a new pond that I've put in about 2 weeks now and it's about time to put some fishes in it.
It's a 1000 litre item, 2 1/2 foot deep with a decent enough pump and filter (and uv bit). I'm probably going to just put goldfish in it, something hardy, but I've had various suggestions. Should I go out and buy a job lot of 10 - 12 all in one go. or buy 5 - 6 wait a couple of weeks then add another 6. Guessing fors and against for each. For buying a job lot, they might not fight as much, but if one has an infection, they'll all get it. thanks in advance AlecTPR |
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23-06-2006, 03:00 PM
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#3
23-06-2006, 03:08 PM
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Looks good, but I would not overload it right off with a bunch of
fish., as its going to take a bit of time for the biological portio of the filter to come up to speed.......From what I have read and been told it can take 4 to 6 weeks until the filter is up to speed, but adding a few now shuld not be a problem. What brand filter is that, A Hozelock Bio-Force or Laguna or other? On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:50:01 +0000, AlecTPR wrote: I've had a new pond that I've put in about 2 weeks now and it's about time to put some fishes in it. It's a 1000 litre item, 2 1/2 foot deep with a decent enough pump and filter (and uv bit). I'm probably going to just put goldfish in it, something hardy, but I've had various suggestions. Should I go out and buy a job lot of 10 - 12 all in one go. or buy 5 - 6 wait a couple of weeks then add another 6. Guessing fors and against for each. For buying a job lot, they might not fight as much, but if one has an infection, they'll all get it. thanks in advance AlecTPR -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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23-06-2006, 04:22 PM
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first, let the pond go green and water warm up.
this is a 250 gallon pond, so it is big enough for a few goldfish. if you have winter where you live how are you going to keep the pond from freezing? it is best to buy a few, wait, buy a few more. GF dont fight, but you are correct, they do spread infections. see here for how to buy GF. http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/c...new%20goldfish AlecTPR wrote: I've had a new pond that I've put in about 2 weeks now and it's about time to put some fishes in it. It's a 1000 litre item, 2 1/2 foot deep with a decent enough pump and filter (and uv bit). I'm probably going to just put goldfish in it, something hardy, but I've had various suggestions. Should I go out and buy a job lot of 10 - 12 all in one go. or buy 5 - 6 wait a couple of weeks then add another 6. Guessing fors and against for each. For buying a job lot, they might not fight as much, but if one has an infection, they'll all get it. thanks in advance AlecTPR ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/ sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...s=Group+lookup www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website. I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan |
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#6
23-06-2006, 04:35 PM
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*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.
"AlecTPR" wrote in message ... I've had a new pond that I've put in about 2 weeks now and it's about time to put some fishes in it. It's a 1000 litre item, 2 1/2 foot deep with a decent enough pump and filter (and uv bit). I'm probably going to just put goldfish in it, something hardy, but I've had various suggestions. It's too small for koi. Stick with goldfish. Rosy reds are also nice in a pond. They're also very cheap. Should I go out and buy a job lot of 10 - 12 all in one go. or buy 5 - 6 wait a couple of weeks then add another 6. Add a few at a time. Keep in mind they do breed so you will have more in the future. :-) Also, goldfish do get large with good care and clean water. They can reach almost 12" long. Guessing fors and against for each. For buying a job lot, they might not fight as much, but if one has an infection, they'll all get it. thanks in advance That's always a chance we take buying new fish. I quarantine everything I bring in for 14 to 21 days. One diseased fish can wipe out a whole collection. -- KL.... Frugal ponding since 1995. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 *Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups. ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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23-06-2006, 04:36 PM
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On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:35:39 -0500, "Koi-Lo" the dumbass wrote:
*Note: There is only one asshole named "Koi-Lo on the pond and aquaria groups. This one and only koi lo puked up the following nonsense. "AlecTPR" wrote in message ... I've had a new pond that I've put in about 2 weeks now and it's about time to put some fishes in it. It's a 1000 litre item, 2 1/2 foot deep with a decent enough pump and filter (and uv bit). I'm probably going to just put goldfish in it, something hardy, but I've had various suggestions. It's too small for koi. Stick with goldfish. Rosy reds are also nice in a pond. They're also very cheap. There never was no mentio nof koi being added asshole........get a ****ing clue carol gully why be an asshole allyur 65 years of life. There s time to gert right, but yur gonna have to hurry. Should I go out and buy a job lot of 10 - 12 all in one go. or buy 5 - 6 wait a couple of weeks then add another 6. Add a few at a time. Keep in mind they do breed so you will have more in the future. :-) Also, goldfish do get large with good care and clean water. They can reach almost 12" long. What do you do take this individual tobe as stupid as you and your socks. You sure are a ****ing bossey bitch ain't ya I bet your a real class act in person....... Guessing fors and against for each. For buying a job lot, they might not fight as much, but if one has an infection, they'll all get it. thanks in advance That's always a chance we take buying new fish. I quarantine everything I bring in for 14 to 21 days. One diseased fish can wipe out a whole collection. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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#8
23-06-2006, 05:24 PM
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On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:50:01 +0000, AlecTPR wrote:
I've had a new pond that I've put in about 2 weeks now and it's about time to put some fishes in it. It's a 1000 litre item, 2 1/2 foot deep with a decent enough pump and filter (and uv bit). I'm probably going to just put goldfish in it, something hardy, but I've had various suggestions. Goldfish are pretty hardy depending on where you are in the UK. In North Yorkshire we don't get more than a thin layer of ice and that won't be a problem providing you have some way to keep the surface open so that they can breathe. You waterfall will do that very nicely providing we don't get a really hard frost, it wouldn't freeze with the recent winters we have had here. Rosy Reds are a licenced fish in the UK and the seller must have a licence so you may find it difficult to get them. Koi grow as large as 2-3 feet so they are out. Should I go out and buy a job lot of 10 - 12 all in one go. or buy 5 - 6 wait a couple of weeks then add another 6. You would be best to put just two at a time in and monitor the ammonia with a test kit. It will rise and then fall again as the bacteria get growing and then you can add another two and watch the cycle again. There is a stocking calculator at http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.u...pages/home.php and you can read about ammonia and nitrates there if you are new to them. I like the pond but the filter and hose stands out a bit at the moment :-) I'd shorten the outlet hose so that it looks a bit less intrusive, it also slows down the pump flow unbelievably and the longer it is the worse. We replaced out flexible hose with solid waste pipe and got 40% more flow. -- Regards - Rodney Pont The from address exists but is mostly dumped, please send any emails to the address below e-mail ngpsm4 (at) infohitsystems (dot) ltd (dot) uk |
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#9
23-06-2006, 05:57 PM
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Yea the hose may look intrusive but with a UVC type pressureized filter its important to get the flow down to the range it is recomenmded to be at, and thats usually a lot less than what the actual output of the pump is listed at, so its a good idea to use a bucket and do a timed fillup of bucket of known capacity and see what the discharge rate is at the water fall height. Slower is usually better when it involves a UVC pressurized filter. You may be surprised it should really be cut down on the flow even more even mnore than its flowing now. Example. Hozelock Bio F0rce 1000 is rated at 1000 gph flow, but add a pump (Cyprio Titan 800 is whats recomended with this BF1000 filter, ) and the booklet on the unit says flow must be regulated to a MAXIMUM of 500 gph for proper filtration and UVC use. So, it means longer hose lengths, higher water fall, a valve after pump but before filter unit if filter unit has a pressure indicator, it maya gice a false reading if the valve is placed after filter.........So check yur gph or whatever measurement you all use in UK to make sure its not flowing too fast for optimol results. To get flow GPH of pump after filter fill a known capacity container..like say a 5 gal bucket, and time it in how long it takes to fill that container.....Example 60 seconds to fill a 5 gal container with hose end at 20" above water level, or a total of 44" above pump itself. Divide 3600 by the amount of time it took to fill bucket (in seconds) 3600 divided by 60 = GPH which would equarte to gph of flow at this height. You will probably find most pressurized filters recomend 1/2 of their max rated flow rate is whats needed when using UVC. And just for the record, if you got this far, I'm Roy.....;-) Kill filters mean nothing On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:24:51 +0100 (BST), "Rodney Pont" wrote: On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:50:01 +0000, AlecTPR wrote: I've had a new pond that I've put in about 2 weeks now and it's about time to put some fishes in it. It's a 1000 litre item, 2 1/2 foot deep with a decent enough pump and filter (and uv bit). I'm probably going to just put goldfish in it, something hardy, but I've had various suggestions. Goldfish are pretty hardy depending on where you are in the UK. In North Yorkshire we don't get more than a thin layer of ice and that won't be a problem providing you have some way to keep the surface open so that they can breathe. You waterfall will do that very nicely providing we don't get a really hard frost, it wouldn't freeze with the recent winters we have had here. Rosy Reds are a licenced fish in the UK and the seller must have a licence so you may find it difficult to get them. Koi grow as large as 2-3 feet so they are out. Should I go out and buy a job lot of 10 - 12 all in one go. or buy 5 - 6 wait a couple of weeks then add another 6. You would be best to put just two at a time in and monitor the ammonia with a test kit. It will rise and then fall again as the bacteria get growing and then you can add another two and watch the cycle again. There is a stocking calculator at http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.u...pages/home.php and you can read about ammonia and nitrates there if you are new to them. I like the pond but the filter and hose stands out a bit at the moment :-) I'd shorten the outlet hose so that it looks a bit less intrusive, it also slows down the pump flow unbelievably and the longer it is the worse. We replaced out flexible hose with solid waste pipe and got 40% more flow. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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23-06-2006, 07:33 PM
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On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:00:12 +0000, AlecTPR wrote:
Just uploaded a pic for your purusal. [image: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../Dscf0706.jpg] Very nice! Personally I wouldn't bother with comets, I'd get either 3 fantails, wakins, sarassa or shubunkin goldfish and let them breed. ~ jan www.jjspond.us ----------------- (Do you know where your water quality is?) Also ponding troll free at: http://groups.google.com/group/The-Freshwater-Aquarium |
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23-06-2006, 08:45 PM
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"AlecTPR" wrote in message
... I've had a new pond that I've put in about 2 weeks now and it's about time to put some fishes in it. It's a 1000 litre item, 2 1/2 foot deep with a decent enough pump and filter (and uv bit). I'm probably going to just put goldfish in it, something hardy, but I've had various suggestions. Should I go out and buy a job lot of 10 - 12 all in one go. or buy 5 - 6 wait a couple of weeks then add another 6. Guessing fors and against for each. For buying a job lot, they might not fight as much, but if one has an infection, they'll all get it. thanks in advance AlecTPR Goldfish will breed like rabbits, if conditions are ok. I would start with just a few and see how they do. If you're concerned about disease from adding goldfish later, you can always buy a cheap plastic container, set it up as a temporary aquarium/pond quarantine tank, put any new fish in there for a few weeks to make sure they're healthy before adding to your pond. Gail near San Antonio TX USA |
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26-06-2006, 09:48 AM
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Well thanks for your comments, (shame about the spammer).
Basically it's a laguna pump and filter (with UV). The pipes will be cut down eventually. I've spent the last 7 weeks doing the whole of the garden, a rather large project in itself and then the pond idea came along. As I am new to it all, I didn't make the pipes too short just in case I needed to move the filter. The wife has already started planting around the area so this should all be covered. I've bite the bullett and gone and bought 3 comet fish and they seem happy so far. Winter in Manchester can get cold, but I presume it's a thin layer of ice. I am new to this and I don't want to invest about £30 in fish only for me to do something wrong and get them floating all over the place. thansk again for your assistance. |
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