My SO and I spent like an hour and a half tonight trying to get the pond
edge level. The ground is as hard as cement...and I am too much of a Mo-ron
to get it to work well. We only got about a 1/3 of it leveled, and I am not
even sure how precise that is. On the upside...liner is ordered and I am out
of work early tomorrow to pick it up. Even better is that SO says we can get
it installed even though it's her birthday weekend! Yahoo!

--
BenignVanilla
tibetanbeefgarden.com
x-no-archive: yes

Remove MY SPLEEN to email me.

:-) sounds like ya got a good SO there BV, Leveling a pond on her
birthday....I got a 2X4 that reached across the largest part of the pond,
put a level on it and checked for level in several different places both
directions came out pretty good.

"BenignVanilla" wrote in
message ...
My SO and I spent like an hour and a half tonight trying to get the pond
edge level. The ground is as hard as cement...and I am too much of a
Mo-ron
to get it to work well. We only got about a 1/3 of it leveled, and I am
not
even sure how precise that is. On the upside...liner is ordered and I am
out
of work early tomorrow to pick it up. Even better is that SO says we can
get
it installed even though it's her birthday weekend! Yahoo!

--
BenignVanilla
tibetanbeefgarden.com
x-no-archive: yes

Remove MY SPLEEN to email me.

"Bob H" wrote in message
...
:-) sounds like ya got a good SO there BV, Leveling a pond on her
birthday....I got a 2X4 that reached across the largest part of the pond,
put a level on it and checked for level in several different places both
directions came out pretty good.

Ya see people!?!?!?! THIS IS WHY I HANG OUR HERE! Just yesterday I carried a
bunch of my tools from the living room to the storage closet downstairs,
cussing the whole way because I kept almost dropping my level. Did I mention
the stack of 2x4's in my living room from the lasts project? I had the tools
to do this and didn't even know it!

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaa!!! Bob H. you are a god.

BV.

BenignVanilla wrote:
"Bob H" wrote in message
...

:-) sounds like ya got a good SO there BV, Leveling a pond on her
birthday....I got a 2X4 that reached across the largest part of the pond,
put a level on it and checked for level in several different places both
directions came out pretty good.


Ya see people!?!?!?! THIS IS WHY I HANG OUR HERE! Just yesterday I carried a
bunch of my tools from the living room to the storage closet downstairs,
cussing the whole way because I kept almost dropping my level. Did I mention
the stack of 2x4's in my living room from the lasts project? I had the tools
to do this and didn't even know it!

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaa!!! Bob H. you are a god.

BV.



I have to tell you that my DH did the leveling in my pond.
He was out there with his level and a board. He would apply
the dirt with a trowel until it got to the proper level. I
did take a photo of the event. Wouldn't you know that the
place where he worked the hardest to level is now the area
where the pond over-flows. It's funny because I wanted him
to put a drain at that location, but he thought it was a bad
idea ;-)


--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/

"Bonnie Espenshade" wrote in message
...
snip
I have to tell you that my DH did the leveling in my pond.
He was out there with his level and a board. He would apply
the dirt with a trowel until it got to the proper level. I
did take a photo of the event. Wouldn't you know that the
place where he worked the hardest to level is now the area
where the pond over-flows. It's funny because I wanted him
to put a drain at that location, but he thought it was a bad
idea ;-)
snip

We're putting a lot of effort into a natural look, so we're doing our best
to avoid a visible liner. I want to try and get the water right up to the
edge if possible. Right now we have been using a bucket of water set near
the edge of the pond, with the water level just slightly higher then the
pond edge. SO walks around with the tube, gets it settled and then I hack
away dirt. I know on one edge I will need to add dirt, but that backs up to
some dense pine so I am not to worried about how it will look in the back.
The 2x4 will be a dream to work with compared to this...I can't wait to try
it.

Of course, when this is all done...I'll have to do the same for the VF.
*sigh*

Why do I always overdue my projects?

BV.

BenignVanilla wrote:

*sigh*

Why do I always overdue my projects?

BV.



Are you an engineer? ;-)

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/

Better be sure the 2X4 is flat or what you will get will not be level at all
(and that it isn't bowing down when you have it extended across the pond
with the level not in the exact middle....)
DK
"Bob H" wrote in message
...
:-) sounds like ya got a good SO there BV, Leveling a pond on her
birthday....I got a 2X4 that reached across the largest part of the pond,
put a level on it and checked for level in several different places both
directions came out pretty good.

"BenignVanilla" wrote in
message ...
My SO and I spent like an hour and a half tonight trying to get the pond
edge level. The ground is as hard as cement...and I am too much of a
Mo-ron
to get it to work well. We only got about a 1/3 of it leveled, and I am
not
even sure how precise that is. On the upside...liner is ordered and I am
out
of work early tomorrow to pick it up. Even better is that SO says we can
get
it installed even though it's her birthday weekend! Yahoo!

--
BenignVanilla
tibetanbeefgarden.com
x-no-archive: yes

Remove MY SPLEEN to email me.

"Bonnie Espenshade" wrote in message
...
BenignVanilla wrote:

*sigh*

Why do I always overdue my projects?

BV.



Are you an engineer? ;-)

You would think so, but no...I am a software guy.

BV

BenignVanilla wrote:
"Bonnie Espenshade" wrote in message
...

BenignVanilla wrote:


*sigh*

Why do I always overdue my projects?

BV.



Are you an engineer? ;-)


You would think so, but no...I am a software guy.

BV


Just one more line of code to make sure right?

--





John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico
If it can't be fixed with bailing wire or duct tape
its not worth fixing

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

"John Rutz" wrote in message
...
snip
Just one more line of code to make sure right?
snip

Actually...how many can I get rid of and still be sure?

BV.

You owe your SO an especially nice B-day present. If your adding
dirt, be sure to tightly pack it down to avoid settling. If you can
avoid adding, your better off as it is very hard to adequately compact
added dirt.

"BenignVanilla" m wrote in message ...
"Bonnie Espenshade" wrote in message
...
snip
I have to tell you that my DH did the leveling in my pond.
He was out there with his level and a board. He would apply
the dirt with a trowel until it got to the proper level. I
did take a photo of the event. Wouldn't you know that the
place where he worked the hardest to level is now the area
where the pond over-flows. It's funny because I wanted him
to put a drain at that location, but he thought it was a bad
idea ;-)
snip

We're putting a lot of effort into a natural look, so we're doing our best
to avoid a visible liner. I want to try and get the water right up to the
edge if possible. Right now we have been using a bucket of water set near
the edge of the pond, with the water level just slightly higher then the
pond edge. SO walks around with the tube, gets it settled and then I hack
away dirt. I know on one edge I will need to add dirt, but that backs up to
some dense pine so I am not to worried about how it will look in the back.
The 2x4 will be a dream to work with compared to this...I can't wait to try
it.

Of course, when this is all done...I'll have to do the same for the VF.
*sigh*

Why do I always overdue my projects?

BV.

Another thing I learned: dig a ledge around the sides about the size of the
rock you are using, like an L, fold the liner into the L and set the rock
there (I used great stuff foam to hold in place) you should have a line of
rock edge with the tops at ground level, fold the liner slightly back over
the L to create a C, add another layer on top of that. when the pond is
"full" the water will lap against the first level of rocks and you won't see
the liner.

"BenignVanilla" m wrote in
message ...
"Bonnie Espenshade" wrote in message
...
snip
I have to tell you that my DH did the leveling in my pond.
He was out there with his level and a board. He would apply
the dirt with a trowel until it got to the proper level. I
did take a photo of the event. Wouldn't you know that the
place where he worked the hardest to level is now the area
where the pond over-flows. It's funny because I wanted him
to put a drain at that location, but he thought it was a bad
idea ;-)
snip

We're putting a lot of effort into a natural look, so we're doing our best
to avoid a visible liner. I want to try and get the water right up to the
edge if possible. Right now we have been using a bucket of water set near
the edge of the pond, with the water level just slightly higher then the
pond edge. SO walks around with the tube, gets it settled and then I hack
away dirt. I know on one edge I will need to add dirt, but that backs up
to
some dense pine so I am not to worried about how it will look in the back.
The 2x4 will be a dream to work with compared to this...I can't wait to
try
it.

Of course, when this is all done...I'll have to do the same for the VF.
*sigh*

Why do I always overdue my projects?

BV.

On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 11:44:03 -0500, BenignVanilla wrote:

"Bonnie Espenshade" wrote in message
...
BenignVanilla wrote:

*sigh*

Why do I always overdue my projects?

BV.



Are you an engineer? ;-)

You would think so, but no...I am a software guy.

BV

What? And you /still/ use MS products?

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L

On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:35:14 -0500, Cleveland Ponder wrote to BV:

You owe your SO an especially nice B-day present.

Might I suggest a nice sized koi?

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L

"BenignVanilla" m wrote in message ...

We're putting a lot of effort into a natural look, so we're doing our best
to avoid a visible liner. I want to try and get the water right up to the
edge if possible.

Problem with that idea is that normal evaporation can lower the water
level enough in one day to make the pond liner visible. Complete
invisibility is very difficult to achieve. You could use a large rock
overhang (not generally a good idea) or hanging plants around the edge
to hide most of the liner.