I wonder if now the raccoons have been scared off if you could leave them
tripped and not have the hassle of worrying about taking them in when children
are around...
On the other hand that would be a sign for Murphy's Law to kick in and *new*
family of raccoons would show up...


k30a

I've heard of putting upside down mousetraps around the pond to scare herons.

Tell more about your experience. Did you hear them when they encountered the
traps? --
(@#$%%!@#*&!!!!!! ;-)

Did you find traps that had been tripped?
When they left did your traps stay untripped later on?


k30a

I thought about that - in fact I was almost out the door to buy a dozen of
them when I realized that even though I haven't see froggy for about 6 weeks
now, being he was my favorite creature in the pond, I'd hate to find him
stuck in a mouse trap. That's when I came up (with what someone named) ,
"The MacGuyver electric COON-B-Q".
BK
"EliezerE" wrote in message
...
Has anyone tried putting a bunch of mouse traps around their ponds? They
helped me scare the coons away, and I haven't found any squirrel paws or
bird
beaks in them, so they don't seem to be hurting the local fauna.

I found them tripped in the morning several times, and then they pretty much
were left alone and remained untripped, unless there was a heavy rain, which
did trip them. My plants have been left alone since I put them out. Theyre
pretty ugly, though. I was thinking of spray painting them a decorator black.
And I have to take them in whenever there might be children around.

I wonder if now the raccoons have been scared off if you could leave them
tripped and not have the hassle of worrying about taking them in when children
are around...
On the other hand that would be a sign for Murphy's Law to kick in and *new*
family of raccoons would show up...


k30a

Long message warning : ] This is so funny, because I posted on
alt.garden.pond.chat about my raccoon problem a few days ago.. First time
I've been on Ngroups in a while. I was perusing the articles there, and
saw - where is everyone?- and it suggested this site, so with contined no
response, I thought I'd check here.

Well, here I am- first looksie, and I see this long thread about raccoons!
My very problem!

Well, there hasn't been any response to my query on alt.garden. so I hunted
around town and found a water garden nursery, and guess what they
suggested -- COYOTE URINE! I paid $17, normally 19. I haven't tried it
yet, because, well, frankly, it is weird. we've had lots of jokes, and I'm
a bit scared of attracting real coyotes (who used to live in this area- &
prob still do a few miles away).

The nursery's other suggestion: get rid of water hyacinth- the only plant
coons are attracted to. So I did an experiment, and last night the raccoons
decimated my bowl with hyacinth in it in the backyard, and swiped a water
lily flower from the wkiskey barrel in front yard, but no other damage.

So, you might also try removing your hyacinths "bobkiely" . I feel better
about the coyote urine now. I guess I'll give it a try and buy some more
fish (the coons had gobbled all my fish and turned over 2 plants in my newly
set up whiskey barrel!) Any tips for leaky barrels besides a stiff ugly
liner? I'll try the mouse traps too.

B-infoseeker

Long message warning : ] This is so funny, because I posted on
alt.garden.pond.chat about my raccoon problem a few days ago.. First time
I've been on Ngroups in a while. I was perusing the articles there, and
saw - where is everyone?- and it suggested this site, so with contined no
response, I thought I'd check here.

Well, here I am- first looksie, and I see this long thread about raccoons!
My very problem!

Well, there hasn't been any response to my query on alt.garden. so I hunted
around town and found a water garden nursery, and guess what they
suggested -- COYOTE URINE! I paid $17, normally 19. I haven't tried it
yet, because, well, frankly, it is weird. we've had lots of jokes, and I'm
a bit scared of attracting real coyotes (who used to live in this area- &
prob still do a few miles away).

The nursery's other suggestion: get rid of water hyacinth- the only plant
coons are attracted to. So I did an experiment, and last night the raccoons
decimated my bowl with hyacinth in it in the backyard, and swiped a water
lily flower from the wkiskey barrel in front yard, but no other damage.

So, you might also try removing your hyacinths "bobkiely" . I feel better
about the coyote urine now. I guess I'll give it a try and buy some more
fish (the coons had gobbled all my fish and turned over 2 plants in my newly
set up whiskey barrel!) Any tips for leaky barrels besides a stiff ugly
liner? I'll try the mouse traps too.

B-infoseeker

Hey Hank,
My raccoon family (on their 2nd attack) ate only the water lily bud- but no
overturned pots. I don't have fish yet again (total all you can eat
buffet). I wonder if they are attracted to the lily flowers. They also
totally ruined an experiemental pot with water hyancith (I was told coons
like it). So I wonder if lily's should also be on that list. Sheesh!

Before eating the hyacinths again, they hadn't come around for a few days,
which makes me wonder if they only "hit" every few night or so. Or, they
were stuffed after eating my fish and parts of plants, and needed a few days
breather.

So, I'm sympathizing with you!
B

"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
...
OOOPS! Did I say the P word? Sorry, I was upset and I think it has
been a long time since there has been a coyote at the New Jersey shore
so I don't think the odor would say predator to the raccoons. #2 is
now sharing a waterfront condo with #1 at a local state park. If I
were a raccoon I would want to live there.
The trap is set again. I hope my plants can withstand another
attack.

http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1

"bobkiely" wrote in message
news:CJVOa.28$lW1.5@fed1read07...
Hank: 3 straight nights now since I marked my territory with CP and
no
visits from the Raccoons. (Fingers crossed/knock on wood) I even
took down
my soft drink can pyramid (well today is trash day too).
BK
"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
.. .
Number two in trap!!!!!! The rest of the family trashed the pond,
They
even ate all the flowers and buds from all the lilies. I think I
need
more traps. All of the older fish seem ok. (We have not had
bonding
sessions with the smaller GF yet.) It seemed as if all were
present
for their orange slice this morning.
I think the family is getting angry. They overturned
several
potted plants in yard and finished their raid with a refreshing
dip in
the swimming pool.
Well, time to take #2 to be with his sibling.
At $16. that coyote **** is starting to sound like a
bargain.

http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1
"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
news Well one raccoon relocated. Found him a nice spot by a lake. He
was
kind-of small, and cute as he stuck his human-like little paw
out of
the cage as if to say, "Come closer so I can RIP YOUR LIPS OFF"!
...... I reset the trap ..... I have a strong feeling Mama and
family
are nearby waiting to have another swim and buffet in Hank's
Puddle.
........ Let us know how the "Midnight under a coyote" cologne
works.
"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
...
For $16 you should have gotten the whole coyote! It is
supposed to
work if there are coyotes in your area. The coon may just
think it
is
cheap cologne if it does not recognize it as a predator. I
looked
out
this morning to one furry bandit in a Hav-a-heart. I think
I'll
take
the little guy to the park today. Good luck with yours. I
hope
I
only have one.
"bobkiely" wrote in message
news:nQrOa.99793$%42.80004@fed1read06...
I know some of you will think I'm just kidding due to my
recent
run-ins with
the raccoon but this is serious - no kidding.

Yesterday I was at Petco and was talking to the guy in the
fish
department
and I mentioned I had a pond. He tells me that he used to
but
gave
it up due
to being constantly trashed by the raccoons. So I mentioned
to
him
that I
had 4 visits from coons in the last week and I was thinking
of
trading in
the goldfish and koi for 200 4" piranhas to remedy the
problem.
(OK
I can't
help it - just kidding about that part).

So he tells me I should get some coyote urine...that if it
was
available
when he had the problem, he's probably still have his pond.
For
a
second I
thought HE was kidding and I said, "You said coyote urine?"
He
said
that
they sell it across the street at Green Thumb Nursery. So I
went
over there
and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of dispensers. Last
night
was the
first time I used it and didn't have a visit - coincidence?
I
don't
know but
I had to try it even if it was $16.

Anybody else hear of it? And it IS actual 100% pure coyote
urine,
not some
chemical (according to them). I'll take their word for it.

They have a web site: http://www.legupenterprises.com

BK

soooo, an electric fence is out of the question for you?
mad
--
"Ninety eight percent of the adults in this country are decent,
hardworking, honest Americans. It's the other lousy two percent
that get all the publicity. But then, we elected them."
Lily Tomlin

From: "Hank Pagel"
Reply-To: "Hank Pagel"
Newsgroups: rec.ponds
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 08:32:29 -0400
Subject: Raccoon Repellent

Number two in trap!!!!!! The rest of the family trashed the pond, They
even ate all the flowers and buds from all the lilies. I think I need
more traps. All of the older fish seem ok. (We have not had bonding
sessions with the smaller GF yet.) It seemed as if all were present
for their orange slice this morning.
I think the family is getting angry. They overturned several
potted plants in yard and finished their raid with a refreshing dip in
the swimming pool.
Well, time to take #2 to be with his sibling.
At $16. that coyote **** is starting to sound like a bargain.

http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1
"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
news
Well one raccoon relocated. Found him a nice spot by a lake. He was
kind-of small, and cute as he stuck his human-like little paw out of
the cage as if to say, "Come closer so I can RIP YOUR LIPS OFF"!
...... I reset the trap ..... I have a strong feeling Mama and
family
are nearby waiting to have another swim and buffet in Hank's Puddle.
........ Let us know how the "Midnight under a coyote" cologne
works.
"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
...
For $16 you should have gotten the whole coyote! It is supposed to
work if there are coyotes in your area. The coon may just think it
is
cheap cologne if it does not recognize it as a predator. I looked
out
this morning to one furry bandit in a Hav-a-heart. I think I'll
take
the little guy to the park today. Good luck with yours. I
hope
I
only have one.
"bobkiely" wrote in message
news:nQrOa.99793$%42.80004@fed1read06...
I know some of you will think I'm just kidding due to my recent
run-ins with
the raccoon but this is serious - no kidding.

Yesterday I was at Petco and was talking to the guy in the fish
department
and I mentioned I had a pond. He tells me that he used to but
gave
it up due
to being constantly trashed by the raccoons. So I mentioned to
him
that I
had 4 visits from coons in the last week and I was thinking of
trading in
the goldfish and koi for 200 4" piranhas to remedy the problem.
(OK
I can't
help it - just kidding about that part).

So he tells me I should get some coyote urine...that if it was
available
when he had the problem, he's probably still have his pond. For
a
second I
thought HE was kidding and I said, "You said coyote urine?" He
said
that
they sell it across the street at Green Thumb Nursery. So I went
over there
and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of dispensers. Last
night
was the
first time I used it and didn't have a visit - coincidence? I
don't
know but
I had to try it even if it was $16.

Anybody else hear of it? And it IS actual 100% pure coyote
urine,
not some
chemical (according to them). I'll take their word for it.

They have a web site: http://www.legupenterprises.com

BK











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I wasn't even going to say this, but if you are afraid of attracting
coyotes, i think human urine is supposed to work too. haha



On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:33:06 -0700, "infoseeker" reply by post thx
wrote:

Long message warning : ] This is so funny, because I posted on
alt.garden.pond.chat about my raccoon problem a few days ago.. First time
I've been on Ngroups in a while. I was perusing the articles there, and
saw - where is everyone?- and it suggested this site, so with contined no
response, I thought I'd check here.

Well, here I am- first looksie, and I see this long thread about raccoons!
My very problem!

Well, there hasn't been any response to my query on alt.garden. so I hunted
around town and found a water garden nursery, and guess what they
suggested -- COYOTE URINE! I paid $17, normally 19. I haven't tried it
yet, because, well, frankly, it is weird. we've had lots of jokes, and I'm
a bit scared of attracting real coyotes (who used to live in this area- &
prob still do a few miles away).

The nursery's other suggestion: get rid of water hyacinth- the only plant
coons are attracted to. So I did an experiment, and last night the raccoons
decimated my bowl with hyacinth in it in the backyard, and swiped a water
lily flower from the wkiskey barrel in front yard, but no other damage.

So, you might also try removing your hyacinths "bobkiely" . I feel better
about the coyote urine now. I guess I'll give it a try and buy some more
fish (the coons had gobbled all my fish and turned over 2 plants in my newly
set up whiskey barrel!) Any tips for leaky barrels besides a stiff ugly
liner? I'll try the mouse traps too.

B-infoseeker

BK, I'm sorry but something you said keeps sticking in my mind ....."
So I went
over there
and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of dispensers."
Somehow I keep picturing the original dispenser the coyote used, in a
blister pack, hanging on a hook in the store. ............... and you
buying two of them.
On a serious note, They have not touched my WH but
they have torn out 80% of my water cress. I thought they were just mad
at me but the water cress does taste pretty good. That could be the
target. They think it's a salad bar with frog legs, escargot and sushi
side dishes.

"bobkiely" wrote in message
news:CJVOa.28$lW1.5@fed1read07...
Hank: 3 straight nights now since I marked my territory with CP and
no
visits from the Raccoons. (Fingers crossed/knock on wood) I even
took down
my soft drink can pyramid (well today is trash day too).
BK
"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
.. .
Number two in trap!!!!!! The rest of the family trashed the pond,
They
even ate all the flowers and buds from all the lilies. I think I
need
more traps. All of the older fish seem ok. (We have not had
bonding
sessions with the smaller GF yet.) It seemed as if all were
present
for their orange slice this morning.
I think the family is getting angry. They overturned
several
potted plants in yard and finished their raid with a refreshing
dip in
the swimming pool.
Well, time to take #2 to be with his sibling.
At $16. that coyote **** is starting to sound like a
bargain.

http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1
"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
news
Well one raccoon relocated. Found him a nice spot by a lake. He
was
kind-of small, and cute as he stuck his human-like little paw
out of
the cage as if to say, "Come closer so I can RIP YOUR LIPS OFF"!
...... I reset the trap ..... I have a strong feeling Mama and
family
are nearby waiting to have another swim and buffet in Hank's
Puddle.
........ Let us know how the "Midnight under a coyote" cologne
works.
"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
...
For $16 you should have gotten the whole coyote! It is
supposed to
work if there are coyotes in your area. The coon may just
think it
is
cheap cologne if it does not recognize it as a predator. I
looked
out
this morning to one furry bandit in a Hav-a-heart. I think
I'll
take
the little guy to the park today. Good luck with yours. I
hope
I
only have one.
"bobkiely" wrote in message
news:nQrOa.99793$%42.80004@fed1read06...
I know some of you will think I'm just kidding due to my
recent
run-ins with
the raccoon but this is serious - no kidding.

Yesterday I was at Petco and was talking to the guy in the
fish
department
and I mentioned I had a pond. He tells me that he used to
but
gave
it up due
to being constantly trashed by the raccoons. So I mentioned
to
him
that I
had 4 visits from coons in the last week and I was thinking
of
trading in
the goldfish and koi for 200 4" piranhas to remedy the
problem.
(OK
I can't
help it - just kidding about that part).

So he tells me I should get some coyote urine...that if it
was
available
when he had the problem, he's probably still have his pond.
For
a
second I
thought HE was kidding and I said, "You said coyote urine?"
He
said
that
they sell it across the street at Green Thumb Nursery. So I
went
over there
and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of dispensers. Last
night
was the
first time I used it and didn't have a visit - coincidence?
I
don't
know but
I had to try it even if it was $16.

Anybody else hear of it? And it IS actual 100% pure coyote
urine,
not some
chemical (according to them). I'll take their word for it.

They have a web site: http://www.legupenterprises.com

BK

#3 is filling the trap (This is one big mother and I mean that
literally)The only damage this morning is some of the watercress that
is left is uprooted.We are going to see how fast an old, bald-headed
fat guy can run when he opens the trap to let this one out. Better
wear my Nike's.


"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
...
BK, I'm sorry but something you said keeps sticking in my mind
......"
So I went
over there
and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of dispensers."
Somehow I keep picturing the original dispenser the coyote used, in
a
blister pack, hanging on a hook in the store. ............... and
you
buying two of them.
On a serious note, They have not touched my WH but
they have torn out 80% of my water cress. I thought they were just
mad
at me but the water cress does taste pretty good. That could be the
target. They think it's a salad bar with frog legs, escargot and
sushi
side dishes.

"bobkiely" wrote in message
news:CJVOa.28$lW1.5@fed1read07...
Hank: 3 straight nights now since I marked my territory with CP
and
no
visits from the Raccoons. (Fingers crossed/knock on wood) I even
took down
my soft drink can pyramid (well today is trash day too).
BK
"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
.. .
Number two in trap!!!!!! The rest of the family trashed the
pond,
They
even ate all the flowers and buds from all the lilies. I think I
need
more traps. All of the older fish seem ok. (We have not had
bonding
sessions with the smaller GF yet.) It seemed as if all were
present
for their orange slice this morning.
I think the family is getting angry. They overturned
several
potted plants in yard and finished their raid with a refreshing
dip in
the swimming pool.
Well, time to take #2 to be with his sibling.
At $16. that coyote **** is starting to sound like a
bargain.

http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1
"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
news Well one raccoon relocated. Found him a nice spot by a lake.
He
was
kind-of small, and cute as he stuck his human-like little paw
out of
the cage as if to say, "Come closer so I can RIP YOUR LIPS
OFF"!
...... I reset the trap ..... I have a strong feeling Mama and
family
are nearby waiting to have another swim and buffet in Hank's
Puddle.
........ Let us know how the "Midnight under a coyote"
cologne
works.
"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
...
For $16 you should have gotten the whole coyote! It is
supposed to
work if there are coyotes in your area. The coon may just
think it
is
cheap cologne if it does not recognize it as a predator. I
looked
out
this morning to one furry bandit in a Hav-a-heart. I think
I'll
take
the little guy to the park today. Good luck with yours.
I
hope
I
only have one.
"bobkiely" wrote in message
news:nQrOa.99793$%42.80004@fed1read06...
I know some of you will think I'm just kidding due to my
recent
run-ins with
the raccoon but this is serious - no kidding.

Yesterday I was at Petco and was talking to the guy in the
fish
department
and I mentioned I had a pond. He tells me that he used to
but
gave
it up due
to being constantly trashed by the raccoons. So I
mentioned
to
him
that I
had 4 visits from coons in the last week and I was
thinking
of
trading in
the goldfish and koi for 200 4" piranhas to remedy the
problem.
(OK
I can't
help it - just kidding about that part).

So he tells me I should get some coyote urine...that if it
was
available
when he had the problem, he's probably still have his
pond.
For
a
second I
thought HE was kidding and I said, "You said coyote
urine?"
He
said
that
they sell it across the street at Green Thumb Nursery. So
I
went
over there
and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of dispensers.
Last
night
was the
first time I used it and didn't have a visit -
coincidence?
I
don't
know but
I had to try it even if it was $16.

Anybody else hear of it? And it IS actual 100% pure coyote
urine,
not some
chemical (according to them). I'll take their word for it.

They have a web site: http://www.legupenterprises.com

BK

#3 is filling the trap (This is one big mother and I mean that
literally)The only damage this morning is some of the watercress that
is left is uprooted.

What are you using as bait?

Hank Pagel wrote:

#3 is filling the trap (This is one big mother and I mean that
literally)The only damage this morning is some of the watercress that
is left is uprooted.We are going to see how fast an old, bald-headed
fat guy can run when he opens the trap to let this one out. Better
wear my Nike's.

Is there some way you could film this for us?

Joe



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You can't negotiate with terrorists - the same goes for gophers, moles, racoons, rabbits,
ground squirrels, giant antler'd rats..

Once they're in the trap, shoot them! It is hard to miss 'em, but if you do, you can try... try
again. :-)



In article ,
"Hank Pagel" writes:
#3 is filling the trap (This is one big mother and I mean that
literally)The only damage this morning is some of the watercress that
is left is uprooted.We are going to see how fast an old, bald-headed
fat guy can run when he opens the trap to let this one out. Better
wear my Nike's.