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Old 30-10-2003, 01:42 PM
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Hi everyone. We just purchased a new home and I know it's too late to dig
our pond this year, but we're not sure where to put it in the spring. The
back is southern exposure, with a small slope 1/4 way into it and several
trees including one very large Pine.

Here is a pic of the back garden, any ideas on where is best? (The kiddy
stuff is going as our son is 13.) Oh and the big vegetation to the left of
the arbor that goes nowhere is the previous owners veggie garden which we'll
be getting rid of.

http://www.britsintheus.com/backgarden.jpg


Lisa


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Old 30-10-2003, 02:02 PM
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What a question... I would pick Santa Barbara

Ok, Actually there can be many right places... my personal choice
favorite would be a location where you could enjoy the view from both
the indside and outside. This currently doesn't exist for my house, so
I am adding an addition in the spring that will have a great view of the
pond. Actually, I need the space... but I did design the new addition
around the pond. Now, if you don't have a good view from anywhere
inside the house then I would pick a spot near your favorite
location/sitting/relaxing spot outside. This way you enjoy your pond
and fish friends all the more. Coffee/Pop by the pond is extremely
relaxing.

Of course, there are some other things to take into consideration while
planning... location of trees(fall foliage in the bottom of a cold
pond)... underground wires/pipes(ones you don't want to hit)... location
of electrical outlet(ones to run the pump/filtration)... how easy is the
location to prep for winter... I am sure others wil add more...

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Old 30-10-2003, 03:03 PM
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Yeah, I would agree with Chad, looking at the photo alone I would have to
say one place is as good as another, the question is how does it relate to
your house for view, access and the big one GFI protected power.

"Steve and Lisa" wrote in message
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Hi everyone. We just purchased a new home and I know it's too late to dig
our pond this year, but we're not sure where to put it in the spring. The
back is southern exposure, with a small slope 1/4 way into it and several
trees including one very large Pine.

Here is a pic of the back garden, any ideas on where is best? (The kiddy
stuff is going as our son is 13.) Oh and the big vegetation to the left of
the arbor that goes nowhere is the previous owners veggie garden which

we'll
be getting rid of.

http://www.britsintheus.com/backgarden.jpg


Lisa




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Old 30-10-2003, 04:02 PM
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"Steve and Lisa" wrote in message
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Hi everyone. We just purchased a new home and I know it's too late to dig
our pond this year, but we're not sure where to put it in the spring. The
back is southern exposure, with a small slope 1/4 way into it and several
trees including one very large Pine.

Here is a pic of the back garden, any ideas on where is best? (The kiddy
stuff is going as our son is 13.) Oh and the big vegetation to the left of
the arbor that goes nowhere is the previous owners veggie garden which

we'll
be getting rid of.


Ahh, placement. The precursor to how big? how deep? what kind of filter? The
journey has begun...My thoughts, choose a spot:

1. That is currently pleasant to sit in. If you don't want to hang out there
now, you won't hang out near the pond when it's there.
2. Can you get water to it easily? electricity?
3. Are there buried cables/pipes/roots in the area that may cause problems?
4. How level is the ground? Will it be a beyotch to dig a nice level hole
there? If it's on a hill, how will you deal with run off?
5. Gently place a mirror on the ground, and sit near it. Does the "water"
provide nice reflections?
6. Fall out. If you are near trees (not neccessiraly bad) you will be doing
cleanup from the fallout. I chose a location under a line of pine trees on
one side, and an oak on the other. It is a very natural, "nesteled" setting.
The look is nice, but I am paying for that in cleanup work.
7. Borders. Pay attention to your borders. My pond (see #6) is nestled into
some trees. I now have very little access to the rear side of my pond, or at
least very little dry access.

Oh, and it's off topic, but give yourself some shelves. I didn't. I build
slopers...They suck.

BV.


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Old 30-10-2003, 09:02 PM
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You want it viewable from in the house or at least the back patio. You
want the pond itself off center (see Japanese garden design). You want
it to take up the whole back yard (so you don't need to mess with the
lawn, sprinklers, etc). Put in a walk way with lots of mystery. It's a
50x70 foot canvas.

Your son is old enough that he doesn't care if there's no lawn in the
back. Not sure where you live but if you do it right, put in a lot of
xeriscape, then you won't have to mess with most of it unless you want to.

Go for it.


Steve and Lisa wrote:
Hi everyone. We just purchased a new home and I know it's too late to dig
our pond this year, but we're not sure where to put it in the spring. The
back is southern exposure, with a small slope 1/4 way into it and several
trees including one very large Pine.

Here is a pic of the back garden, any ideas on where is best? (The kiddy
stuff is going as our son is 13.) Oh and the big vegetation to the left of
the arbor that goes nowhere is the previous owners veggie garden which we'll
be getting rid of.

http://www.britsintheus.com/backgarden.jpg


Lisa





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Old 30-10-2003, 10:04 PM
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I have mine in the front yard as the sea breeze is much better there
than in the back.
I also fully decorate my pond and front yard every Christmas! Local
media always shows up along with lines of cars trying to catch a glimpse
of the fish along with the Christmas lights. jmo

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Old 30-10-2003, 10:12 PM
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If I am looking at the picture correctly, the sloped section appears to be
fairly well sloped over a very narrow area. This would lend itself to the
veggie filter flowing into a short stream into the pond with the veggie
filter at the top of the slope and the pond at the bottom of the slope.
Both areas, top and bottom appear to be reasonably level, so the edge of the
pond would be nearly even around the perimeter. I would locate it as far
away from the pine as possible. The leaves can be caught by netting, but
needles just seem to orient themselves to go right through.
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"Steve and Lisa" wrote in message
. ..
Hi everyone. We just purchased a new home and I know it's too late to dig
our pond this year, but we're not sure where to put it in the spring. The
back is southern exposure, with a small slope 1/4 way into it and several
trees including one very large Pine.

Here is a pic of the back garden, any ideas on where is best? (The kiddy
stuff is going as our son is 13.) Oh and the big vegetation to the left of
the arbor that goes nowhere is the previous owners veggie garden which

we'll
be getting rid of.

http://www.britsintheus.com/backgarden.jpg


Lisa




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Old 31-10-2003, 02:02 PM
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Actually, since their son is old enough to push a lawn mower, he might be
very happy that there's no mowable grass in the back... ;-)

Mike D.

"MattR" wrote in message
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You want it viewable from in the house or at least the back patio. You
want the pond itself off center (see Japanese garden design). You want
it to take up the whole back yard (so you don't need to mess with the
lawn, sprinklers, etc). Put in a walk way with lots of mystery. It's a
50x70 foot canvas.

Your son is old enough that he doesn't care if there's no lawn in the
back. Not sure where you live but if you do it right, put in a lot of
xeriscape, then you won't have to mess with most of it unless you want to.

Go for it.


Steve and Lisa wrote:
Hi everyone. We just purchased a new home and I know it's too late to

dig
our pond this year, but we're not sure where to put it in the spring.

The
back is southern exposure, with a small slope 1/4 way into it and

several
trees including one very large Pine.

Here is a pic of the back garden, any ideas on where is best? (The

kiddy
stuff is going as our son is 13.) Oh and the big vegetation to the left

of
the arbor that goes nowhere is the previous owners veggie garden which

we'll
be getting rid of.

http://www.britsintheus.com/backgarden.jpg


Lisa





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Old 31-10-2003, 09:42 PM
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One thing that I see a lot of people mess up on with placement is that they
place it in some back corner somewhere. You should place it where you can
see it all the time and from sitting on your porch. If you have one of those
houses where you can see the back yard from the front door put it so you can
see it (ie your outside, you open the front door and look in, and see
through the house into the back yard) When you go to sell your house nothing
will take the breath away from potential buyers than the front door view
looking into a beautiful pond.

"Steve and Lisa" wrote in message
. ..
Hi everyone. We just purchased a new home and I know it's too late to dig
our pond this year, but we're not sure where to put it in the spring. The
back is southern exposure, with a small slope 1/4 way into it and several
trees including one very large Pine.

Here is a pic of the back garden, any ideas on where is best? (The kiddy
stuff is going as our son is 13.) Oh and the big vegetation to the left of
the arbor that goes nowhere is the previous owners veggie garden which

we'll
be getting rid of.

http://www.britsintheus.com/backgarden.jpg


Lisa




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Old 01-11-2003, 05:02 PM
 
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now is the PERFECT time to dig, line and landscape the pond, absolutely PERFECT. I
got friends put in ponds and they are busy, busy, busy this time of year in zone 5
right up until there is a couple feet of snow covering everything. Reason is, the
ground is firm and dry. They are not sliding around in a lot of water like in
spring. Transplanting is superb in fall, GRASS GROWS IN FALL, so after you are done
putting in the pond and got it filled, you can do all your major landscaping like
dragging in stones, putting in bulbs and big bushes or trees, etc. furthermore,
plants are cheaper now than in spring. AND, by spring your pond will be properly
aged!!!!
It looks like you have a longer than wider lot. Break that up into "rooms" with the
first room your pond. If you do 2 things, take more pictures including a shot of the
back of the house and draw a sorta plot of where your house is, where your windows
are and the plot of land all to scale, post that and people will help you design it.
Oh what fun.
Ingrid


"Steve and Lisa" wrote:
Hi everyone. We just purchased a new home and I know it's too late to dig
our pond this year, but we're not sure where to put it in the spring. The
back is southern exposure, with a small slope 1/4 way into it and several
trees including one very large Pine.

Here is a pic of the back garden, any ideas on where is best? (The kiddy
stuff is going as our son is 13.) Oh and the big vegetation to the left of
the arbor that goes nowhere is the previous owners veggie garden which we'll
be getting rid of.

http://www.britsintheus.com/backgarden.jpg


Lisa




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now is the PERFECT time to dig, line and landscape the pond, absolutely

PERFECT. I
got friends put in ponds and they are busy, busy, busy this time of year

in zone 5
right up until there is a couple feet of snow covering everything. Reason

is, the
ground is firm and dry. They are not sliding around in a lot of water

like in
spring. Transplanting is superb in fall, GRASS GROWS IN FALL, so after

you are done
putting in the pond and got it filled, you can do all your major

landscaping like
dragging in stones, putting in bulbs and big bushes or trees, etc.

furthermore,
plants are cheaper now than in spring. AND, by spring your pond will be

properly
aged!!!!


Interesting.. we just moved this last summer, and we were told not to plant
after Oct. 1 for both grass and clover (there will be LOTS of clover here)

Course it IS cooler, and I DO have to dig out a new pond.... Nah... I'll
chop firewood instead! LOL!!


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wrote in message
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now is the PERFECT time to dig, line and landscape the pond, absolutely

PERFECT. I
got friends put in ponds and they are busy, busy, busy this time of year

in zone 5
right up until there is a couple feet of snow covering everything. Reason

is, the
ground is firm and dry. They are not sliding around in a lot of water

like in
spring. Transplanting is superb in fall, GRASS GROWS IN FALL, so after

you are done
putting in the pond and got it filled, you can do all your major

landscaping like
dragging in stones, putting in bulbs and big bushes or trees, etc.

furthermore,
plants are cheaper now than in spring. AND, by spring your pond will be

properly
aged!!!!


Interesting.. we just moved this last summer, and we were told not to plant
after Oct. 1 for both grass and clover (there will be LOTS of clover here)

Course it IS cooler, and I DO have to dig out a new pond.... Nah... I'll
chop firewood instead! LOL!!


--
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Ingrid is absolutely correct in saying that Fall is the best time to
put in a pond... Both my ponds were dug in October and November.
In the Spring the water was cured and all was ready for the transfer of
fish. As for the landscaping... YES! Fall is the best time for doing
this. I moved all the lotuses from their cramped quarters in November
and had a lovely burst of blooms the following June.
Also, the weather is more conducive to digging and dragging
stones, etc. that will be needed to finish off the pond.
Ingrid seems to have ya' covered in all aspects ;-)

Nedra
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http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Gareee©" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
now is the PERFECT time to dig, line and landscape the pond, absolutely

PERFECT. I
got friends put in ponds and they are busy, busy, busy this time of year

in zone 5
right up until there is a couple feet of snow covering everything.

Reason
is, the
ground is firm and dry. They are not sliding around in a lot of water

like in
spring. Transplanting is superb in fall, GRASS GROWS IN FALL, so after

you are done
putting in the pond and got it filled, you can do all your major

landscaping like
dragging in stones, putting in bulbs and big bushes or trees, etc.

furthermore,
plants are cheaper now than in spring. AND, by spring your pond will be

properly
aged!!!!


Interesting.. we just moved this last summer, and we were told not to

plant
after Oct. 1 for both grass and clover (there will be LOTS of clover here)

Course it IS cooler, and I DO have to dig out a new pond.... Nah... I'll
chop firewood instead! LOL!!


--
Gareee©
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http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine.../mainframe.htm
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Ingrid is absolutely correct in saying that Fall is the best time to
put in a pond... Both my ponds were dug in October and November.
In the Spring the water was cured and all was ready for the transfer of
fish. As for the landscaping... YES! Fall is the best time for doing
this. I moved all the lotuses from their cramped quarters in November
and had a lovely burst of blooms the following June.
Also, the weather is more conducive to digging and dragging
stones, etc. that will be needed to finish off the pond.
Ingrid seems to have ya' covered in all aspects ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Gareee©" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
now is the PERFECT time to dig, line and landscape the pond, absolutely

PERFECT. I
got friends put in ponds and they are busy, busy, busy this time of year

in zone 5
right up until there is a couple feet of snow covering everything.

Reason
is, the
ground is firm and dry. They are not sliding around in a lot of water

like in
spring. Transplanting is superb in fall, GRASS GROWS IN FALL, so after

you are done
putting in the pond and got it filled, you can do all your major

landscaping like
dragging in stones, putting in bulbs and big bushes or trees, etc.

furthermore,
plants are cheaper now than in spring. AND, by spring your pond will be

properly
aged!!!!


Interesting.. we just moved this last summer, and we were told not to

plant
after Oct. 1 for both grass and clover (there will be LOTS of clover here)

Course it IS cooler, and I DO have to dig out a new pond.... Nah... I'll
chop firewood instead! LOL!!


--
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Homepage:
http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine.../mainframe.htm
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wrote in message
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now is the PERFECT time to dig, line and landscape the pond, absolutely

PERFECT. I
got friends put in ponds and they are busy, busy, busy this time of year

in zone 5
right up until there is a couple feet of snow covering everything. Reason

is, the
ground is firm and dry. They are not sliding around in a lot of water

like in
spring. Transplanting is superb in fall, GRASS GROWS IN FALL, so after

you are done
putting in the pond and got it filled, you can do all your major

landscaping like
dragging in stones, putting in bulbs and big bushes or trees, etc.

furthermore,
plants are cheaper now than in spring. AND, by spring your pond will be

properly
aged!!!!


Interesting.. we just moved this last summer, and we were told not to plant
after Oct. 1 for both grass and clover (there will be LOTS of clover here)

Course it IS cooler, and I DO have to dig out a new pond.... Nah... I'll
chop firewood instead! LOL!!


--
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Homepage:
http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine.../mainframe.htm
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