Today I presented The Wacky World of Water Gardening at our local MG's
Spring Garden Day, the Keynote speaker from the Wetside of WA showed a
slide of a wonderful pond. Her talk was mainly about structures, so while
this slide was up, she said, "This is a wonderful pond and the owner just
loves to have new people sit in this bench (the structure) right next to
the pond, at which time flames shoot up out of the water. Evidently the
owner is a special effects designer for movies/TV. So there's the experts
you need to talk with Mike. ;o) Obviously it can be done. ~ jan

Still on hold, been working my butt off bringing up a new network.

Was planning to experiment today, but last night things went wrong, so
to the office I go...

I'm planning to use a propane tank & regulator from a gas grill to
start with, have them on hand, so I'm ready to try it if I can just
find the time.

My new pond is still fish-free, though frogs & algae are plentiful.
Haven't yet decided what to put in there, as my first choice (Tilapia)
turned out to require a permit (according to my local Cooperative
Extension Service agent).

Your pond campfire looks good, like a nice place to pull up a chair
and stare at the coals for a while.

Mike Patterson
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COOL!
Did you get a name/number?

Is "Wetside of WA" the name of a business, a club, or ?

I hate reinventing the wheel, though I don't mind building it better.

Mike

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 17:40:32 -0800, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

Today I presented The Wacky World of Water Gardening at our local MG's
Spring Garden Day, the Keynote speaker from the Wetside of WA showed a
slide of a wonderful pond. Her talk was mainly about structures, so while
this slide was up, she said, "This is a wonderful pond and the owner just
loves to have new people sit in this bench (the structure) right next to
the pond, at which time flames shoot up out of the water. Evidently the
owner is a special effects designer for movies/TV. So there's the experts
you need to talk with Mike. ;o) Obviously it can be done. ~ jan


Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.

COOL!
Did you get a name/number?

Is "Wetside of WA" the name of a business, a club, or ?

I hate reinventing the wheel, though I don't mind building it better.

Mike

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 17:40:32 -0800, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

Today I presented The Wacky World of Water Gardening at our local MG's
Spring Garden Day, the Keynote speaker from the Wetside of WA showed a
slide of a wonderful pond. Her talk was mainly about structures, so while
this slide was up, she said, "This is a wonderful pond and the owner just
loves to have new people sit in this bench (the structure) right next to
the pond, at which time flames shoot up out of the water. Evidently the
owner is a special effects designer for movies/TV. So there's the experts
you need to talk with Mike. ;o) Obviously it can be done. ~ jan


Mike Patterson
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chagoi, I hope you can learn form you Lenape ancestors. DO NOT use
local shale around your campfire. The gases and moisture trapped
between the layers of rock expand and "Mak-um boom boom". It is very
dangerous.

--
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http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1
"chagoi" wrote in message
...
Mike Patterson

Just wandering, hows the "burning water" experiment coming?

We've been having some warmer weather up here in Pennsylvania. So I
've
had some time to start cleaning up outside and working on the new
pond.
The grounds still too wet and frozen to start digging, so I decided
to
work on the campfire. It will be about 2 1/2- 3 feet from the edge
of
the pond, with the waterfall for a backdrop.
I took some pictures of the flames, they can be seen at:

http://ourkoipond.com/pond-campfire.htm

or the "Campfire Experiment" button on my home page.

My experiment with the "fire on the water" is still on hold , as
there
is still an iceberg on the 500 gallon Temp. pond. It froze solid
since
it is totally above ground. Meanwhile the koi have been vacationing
in
the Tomb, in my basement. By the time it thaws, I hope to have the
prototype burner finished.


Chagoi
http://ourkoipond.com


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Hank wrote:
chagoi, I hope you can learn form you Lenape ancestors. DO NOT use
local shale around your campfire. The gases and moisture trapped
between the layers of rock expand and "Mak-um boom boom". It is very
dangerous.

Not really a problem in my area. I live in the "Cement Belt" area of
eastern Pa. I mostly have to deal with clay mixed with a little bit of
limestone. The "Slate Belt" area runs about 10 miles north of me. So the
shale area begins about 5 miles north from me.


Chagoi
http://ourkoipond.com

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Hank wrote:

chagoi, I hope you can learn form you Lenape ancestors. DO NOT use
local shale around your campfire. The gases and moisture trapped
between the layers of rock expand and "Mak-um boom boom". It is very
dangerous.

Hank

I think you my have just given Mike P. another idea for some cheep
pyro-technic effects, to go along with his "Burning water" :-)

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Hank wrote:
chagoi, I hope you can learn form you Lenape ancestors. DO NOT use
local shale around your campfire. The gases and moisture trapped
between the layers of rock expand and "Mak-um boom boom". It is very
dangerous.

Not really a problem in my area. I live in the "Cement Belt" area of
eastern Pa. I mostly have to deal with clay mixed with a little bit of
limestone. The "Slate Belt" area runs about 10 miles north of me. So the
shale area begins about 5 miles north from me.


Chagoi
http://ourkoipond.com

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"X"tra "P"rofit, "X"tra "P"ain, "X"tra "P"anic,
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--- take your "P"ick

I was afraid of that. As kids we used to throw shale in a campfire an
run like hell. Even city kids learned fast. It's amazing we survived.

--
some photos of my little puddle
http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1
"chagoi" wrote in message
...
Hank wrote:

chagoi, I hope you can learn form you Lenape ancestors. DO NOT
use
local shale around your campfire. The gases and moisture trapped
between the layers of rock expand and "Mak-um boom boom". It is
very
dangerous.

Hank

I think you my have just given Mike P. another idea for some cheep
pyro-technic effects, to go along with his "Burning water" :-)

--
-- Microsoft XP --- "X"tra "P"atches, "X"tra "P"roblems,
"X"tra "P"rofit, "X"tra "P"ain, "X"tra "P"anic,
"X"tra "P"athetic, "Xtra "P"ernicious
--- take your "P"ick


-

Hank wrote:

chagoi, I hope you can learn form you Lenape ancestors. DO NOT use
local shale around your campfire. The gases and moisture trapped
between the layers of rock expand and "Mak-um boom boom". It is very
dangerous.

Hank

I think you my have just given Mike P. another idea for some cheep
pyro-technic effects, to go along with his "Burning water" :-)

--
-- Microsoft XP --- "X"tra "P"atches, "X"tra "P"roblems,
"X"tra "P"rofit, "X"tra "P"ain, "X"tra "P"anic,
"X"tra "P"athetic, "Xtra "P"ernicious
--- take your "P"ick


-

I was afraid of that. As kids we used to throw shale in a campfire an
run like hell. Even city kids learned fast. It's amazing we survived.

--
some photos of my little puddle
http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1
"chagoi" wrote in message
...
Hank wrote:

chagoi, I hope you can learn form you Lenape ancestors. DO NOT
use
local shale around your campfire. The gases and moisture trapped
between the layers of rock expand and "Mak-um boom boom". It is
very
dangerous.

Hank

I think you my have just given Mike P. another idea for some cheep
pyro-technic effects, to go along with his "Burning water" :-)

--
-- Microsoft XP --- "X"tra "P"atches, "X"tra "P"roblems,
"X"tra "P"rofit, "X"tra "P"ain, "X"tra "P"anic,
"X"tra "P"athetic, "Xtra "P"ernicious
--- take your "P"ick


-

I was afraid of that. As kids we used to throw shale in a campfire an
run like hell. Even city kids learned fast. It's amazing we survived.

--
some photos of my little puddle
http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1
"chagoi" wrote in message
...
Hank wrote:

chagoi, I hope you can learn form you Lenape ancestors. DO NOT
use
local shale around your campfire. The gases and moisture trapped
between the layers of rock expand and "Mak-um boom boom". It is
very
dangerous.

Hank

I think you my have just given Mike P. another idea for some cheep
pyro-technic effects, to go along with his "Burning water" :-)

--
-- Microsoft XP --- "X"tra "P"atches, "X"tra "P"roblems,
"X"tra "P"rofit, "X"tra "P"ain, "X"tra "P"anic,
"X"tra "P"athetic, "Xtra "P"ernicious
--- take your "P"ick


-

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 16:47:02 -0500, "Hank"
wrote:

I was afraid of that. As kids we used to throw shale in a campfire an
run like hell. Even city kids learned fast. It's amazing we survived.

Where I grew up it was sandstone...
big fun!

And cheap potato chips are great firestarters and impromptu
pyrotechnics.


Mike Patterson
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COOL!
Did you get a name/number?

Sorry I didn't. Maybe I can find out though.

Is "Wetside of WA" the name of a business, a club, or ?

It's how we spell West Side of WA, which is also the Wet side. ;o)


~ jan

COOL!
Did you get a name/number?

Sorry I didn't. Maybe I can find out though.

Is "Wetside of WA" the name of a business, a club, or ?

It's how we spell West Side of WA, which is also the Wet side. ;o)


~ jan

On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 00:11:07 -0800, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

COOL!
Did you get a name/number?

Sorry I didn't. Maybe I can find out though.

Is "Wetside of WA" the name of a business, a club, or ?

It's how we spell West Side of WA, which is also the Wet side. ;o)


~ jan

LOL!
I Googled like crazy for a "wet side of WA" and several variations ...



Mike Patterson
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