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Grow more plants and help clean up the air!
Another thing you could do is leave your car at home and take the bus. A new Yahoo group has been formed for people who use Capital Metro busses in Austin Texas called http://groups.yahoo.com/group/busridersaustin/ It is meant for discussion, meeting and advocacy of issues important to Austinites who rely on public transit. I did search around before I started it but didn't find anything like this group. |
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"Alan C Denman" wrote in message
... Grow more plants and help clean up the air! Plants normally grown in the garden don't clean up the air. They produce an insignificant amount of oxygen. Would be interested in the effect of substantial amount of carbon monoxide on such plants. Another thing you could do is leave your car at home and take the bus. No bus goes through west of Wimberley. A new Yahoo group has been formed for people who use Capital Metro busses in Austin Texas called http://groups.yahoo.com/group/busridersaustin/ It is meant for discussion, meeting and advocacy of issues important to Austinites who rely on public transit. I did search around before I started it but didn't find anything like this group. Okay, I'll use that as a platform. I have an older VW, runs great 33 average mpg. VW's high beam indicator in dash failed, not light bulb. Found to be internal to the dash electronics. Failed state safety inspection as a result. Took me a few months to find a replacement. In the meantime, I had to drive a 2001 Dodge V6 truck that get about 1/2 the mpg as result, worse in city driving. Did I say that 290 West between Loop 1 and William Cannon is using half of the gasoline consumed by all the cars in Austin? Don't believe, just go there at anytime during normal commuter traffic times afternoon/evening. Last time I go to Austin for part of my VW. "Funny" thing about it is that I can obviously see the difference between my normal headlights and high beams. Its very obvious. I don't use well lit roads which aids to that observation. Oncoming traffic is quick to note my high beams by using theirs as well. At least I was "safe" not driving the VW, I guess... and making much more CO/CO2 in the meantime driving the truck. I wouldn't use and depend on a timely schedule a bus that's managed by any governmental organization or a subcontractor to same. Timeliness of personal transport don't rhyme with any governmental organization. Privatized rail makes more sense, but that requires something like some substantial walking if not driving at all and parking for all those CO producers if driving to a parking area. What does make a whole lotta sense is to be employed within some reasonable distance from the home where a CO producing automobile or bus is not required. Same for shopping. Naw, that makes too much sense. Let's keep dribbling slow solutions at a big problem. Keep doing things the same old way with slow, slow changes along the way. Not ready for it. Your job, your home, your way of life would be drastically changed? Guess what, the alternative later down the road will do alot more to change that. Yep, ride the bus... What a crock. Dave |
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"Dave" wrote in message nk.net... "Alan C Denman" wrote in message ... Grow more plants and help clean up the air! Plants normally grown in the garden don't clean up the air. They produce an insignificant amount of oxygen. Would be interested in the effect of substantial amount of carbon monoxide on such plants. Another thing you could do is leave your car at home and take the bus. No bus goes through west of Wimberley. A new Yahoo group has been formed for people who use Capital Metro busses in Austin Texas called http://groups.yahoo.com/group/busridersaustin/ It is meant for discussion, meeting and advocacy of issues important to Austinites who rely on public transit. I did search around before I started it but didn't find anything like this group. Okay, I'll use that as a platform. I have an older VW, runs great 33 average mpg. VW's high beam indicator in dash failed, not light bulb. Found to be internal to the dash electronics. Failed state safety inspection as a result. Took me a few months to find a replacement. In the meantime, I had to drive a 2001 Dodge V6 truck that get about 1/2 the mpg as result, worse in city driving. Did I say that 290 West between Loop 1 and William Cannon is using half of the gasoline consumed by all the cars in Austin? Don't believe, just go there at anytime during normal commuter traffic times afternoon/evening. Last time I go to Austin for part of my VW. "Funny" thing about it is that I can obviously see the difference between my normal headlights and high beams. Its very obvious. I don't use well lit roads which aids to that observation. Oncoming traffic is quick to note my high beams by using theirs as well. At least I was "safe" not driving the VW, I guess... and making much more CO/CO2 in the meantime driving the truck. I wouldn't use and depend on a timely schedule a bus that's managed by any governmental organization or a subcontractor to same. Timeliness of personal transport don't rhyme with any governmental organization. Privatized rail makes more sense, sorry Dave, not where I come from. Here in New Zealand privatisation of the rail network & rail operations was a near disaster. A series of owners, both rapacious merchant finance type asset strippers and US rail operators drove down the condition of both our rail network and rolling stock. The govt actually bought back the rail and has invested significant money in it and will continue to do so through electrification and double tracking, $600 million NZ over the next few years. New rolling stock for city public transport is also highly central govt/local govt funded. Rail as a feasible, and successful, solution to road congestion and human enduced climactic change is heavily dependent on government intervention. rob |
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:32:27 -0500, "Alan C Denman"
wrote: Grow more plants and help clean up the air! Another thing you could do is leave your car at home and take the bus. A new Yahoo group has been formed for people who use Capital Metro busses in Austin Texas called http://groups.yahoo.com/group/busridersaustin/ It is meant for discussion, meeting and advocacy of issues important to Austinites who rely on public transit. I did search around before I started it but didn't find anything like this group. We don't have transportation up in Round Rock other than by car. Yes, I have a huge Expedition. No, I wasn't thinking about the environment when I bought it. If I sell it to buy a VW or Mini Cooper, someone else will still be driving the Expedition. I'll drive it till it drops then buy another one. My next, hopefully, will be more advanced MPG Hybrid. |
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"George.com" wrote in message
... "Dave" wrote in message nk.net... "Alan C Denman" wrote in message ... Grow more plants and help clean up the air! Plants normally grown in the garden don't clean up the air. They produce an insignificant amount of oxygen. Would be interested in the effect of substantial amount of carbon monoxide on such plants. Another thing you could do is leave your car at home and take the bus. No bus goes through west of Wimberley. A new Yahoo group has been formed for people who use Capital Metro busses in Austin Texas called http://groups.yahoo.com/group/busridersaustin/ It is meant for discussion, meeting and advocacy of issues important to Austinites who rely on public transit. I did search around before I started it but didn't find anything like this group. Okay, I'll use that as a platform. I have an older VW, runs great 33 average mpg. VW's high beam indicator in dash failed, not light bulb. Found to be internal to the dash electronics. Failed state safety inspection as a result. Took me a few months to find a replacement. In the meantime, I had to drive a 2001 Dodge V6 truck that get about 1/2 the mpg as result, worse in city driving. Did I say that 290 West between Loop 1 and William Cannon is using half of the gasoline consumed by all the cars in Austin? Don't believe, just go there at anytime during normal commuter traffic times afternoon/evening. Last time I go to Austin for part of my VW. "Funny" thing about it is that I can obviously see the difference between my normal headlights and high beams. Its very obvious. I don't use well lit roads which aids to that observation. Oncoming traffic is quick to note my high beams by using theirs as well. At least I was "safe" not driving the VW, I guess... and making much more CO/CO2 in the meantime driving the truck. I wouldn't use and depend on a timely schedule a bus that's managed by any governmental organization or a subcontractor to same. Timeliness of personal transport don't rhyme with any governmental organization. Privatized rail makes more sense, sorry Dave, not where I come from. Here in New Zealand privatisation of the rail network & rail operations was a near disaster. A series of owners, both rapacious merchant finance type asset strippers and US rail operators drove down the condition of both our rail network and rolling stock. The govt actually bought back the rail and has invested significant money in it and will continue to do so through electrification and double tracking, $600 million NZ over the next few years. New rolling stock for city public transport is also highly central govt/local govt funded. Rail as a feasible, and successful, solution to road congestion and human enduced climactic change is heavily dependent on government intervention. rob Yup, you're right. Any organization or persons that own rail are bound to abuse it. History of privately owned, and lately, share owned (corporations) industries in the states has similar history. There's no solution. Let's all die in desperation, destitution, and denial. Leave that legacy to our children and grandchildren. What a crock. Dave |
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"jangchub" wrote in message
... On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:32:27 -0500, "Alan C Denman" wrote: Grow more plants and help clean up the air! Another thing you could do is leave your car at home and take the bus. A new Yahoo group has been formed for people who use Capital Metro busses in Austin Texas called http://groups.yahoo.com/group/busridersaustin/ It is meant for discussion, meeting and advocacy of issues important to Austinites who rely on public transit. I did search around before I started it but didn't find anything like this group. We don't have transportation up in Round Rock other than by car. Yes, I have a huge Expedition. No, I wasn't thinking about the environment when I bought it. If I sell it to buy a VW or Mini Cooper, someone else will still be driving the Expedition. I'll drive it till it drops then buy another one. My next, hopefully, will be more advanced MPG Hybrid. Current VWs are not so good with mpg, and even worse with dependability. Warranty has gone downhill as well. Females are (all) resource hogs by nature. They can't help it. No apology expected for such behavior. Dave |
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"Dave" wrote in message news "George.com" wrote in message ... "Dave" wrote in message nk.net... "Alan C Denman" wrote in message ... Grow more plants and help clean up the air! Plants normally grown in the garden don't clean up the air. They produce an insignificant amount of oxygen. Would be interested in the effect of substantial amount of carbon monoxide on such plants. Another thing you could do is leave your car at home and take the bus. No bus goes through west of Wimberley. A new Yahoo group has been formed for people who use Capital Metro busses in Austin Texas called http://groups.yahoo.com/group/busridersaustin/ It is meant for discussion, meeting and advocacy of issues important to Austinites who rely on public transit. I did search around before I started it but didn't find anything like this group. Okay, I'll use that as a platform. I have an older VW, runs great 33 average mpg. VW's high beam indicator in dash failed, not light bulb. Found to be internal to the dash electronics. Failed state safety inspection as a result. Took me a few months to find a replacement. In the meantime, I had to drive a 2001 Dodge V6 truck that get about 1/2 the mpg as result, worse in city driving. Did I say that 290 West between Loop 1 and William Cannon is using half of the gasoline consumed by all the cars in Austin? Don't believe, just go there at anytime during normal commuter traffic times afternoon/evening. Last time I go to Austin for part of my VW. "Funny" thing about it is that I can obviously see the difference between my normal headlights and high beams. Its very obvious. I don't use well lit roads which aids to that observation. Oncoming traffic is quick to note my high beams by using theirs as well. At least I was "safe" not driving the VW, I guess... and making much more CO/CO2 in the meantime driving the truck. I wouldn't use and depend on a timely schedule a bus that's managed by any governmental organization or a subcontractor to same. Timeliness of personal transport don't rhyme with any governmental organization. Privatized rail makes more sense, sorry Dave, not where I come from. Here in New Zealand privatisation of the rail network & rail operations was a near disaster. A series of owners, both rapacious merchant finance type asset strippers and US rail operators drove down the condition of both our rail network and rolling stock. The govt actually bought back the rail and has invested significant money in it and will continue to do so through electrification and double tracking, $600 million NZ over the next few years. New rolling stock for city public transport is also highly central govt/local govt funded. Rail as a feasible, and successful, solution to road congestion and human enduced climactic change is heavily dependent on government intervention. rob Yup, you're right. Any organization or persons that own rail are bound to abuse it. History of privately owned, and lately, share owned (corporations) industries in the states has similar history. There's no solution. Let's all die in desperation, destitution, and denial. Leave that legacy to our children and grandchildren. What a crock. Dave Not sure what you are on about Dave. Does the crock bit relate to what you wrote first or third? Anyhow, not sure whether you are venting some frustration over your rail network failure, the network failures we have experienced or whether you are trying to win an argument somewhere. Can't really say. All I can say is that rail is looking a lot healthier, whilst no means rosy cheeked yet, than it was some years ago. A whole lot of govt investment has doe it good. rob |
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 04:12:52 GMT, "Dave"
wrote: We don't have transportation up in Round Rock other than by car. Yes, I have a huge Expedition. No, I wasn't thinking about the environment when I bought it. If I sell it to buy a VW or Mini Cooper, someone else will still be driving the Expedition. I'll drive it till it drops then buy another one. My next, hopefully, will be more advanced MPG Hybrid. Current VWs are not so good with mpg, and even worse with dependability. Warranty has gone downhill as well. Females are (all) resource hogs by nature. They can't help it. No apology expected for such behavior. Dave Huh? I haven't a clue what you are talking about. Can you be a bit less cryptic please? I give far more back to the land, air and people then I've ever taken. Broad strokes, my friend, are ridiculous. I have no apology, so no worries. |
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:58:39 -0500, Steve Wertz
wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:34:14 -0500, jangchub wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 04:12:52 GMT, "Dave" wrote: Current VWs are not so good with mpg, and even worse with dependability. Warranty has gone downhill as well. Females are (all) resource hogs by nature. They can't help it. No apology expected for such behavior. Dave Huh? I haven't a clue what you are talking about. I gave up trying to understand him on the first post. -sw Ya never know who is on the other end of this monitor. Oh well. I must be a resource hog! |
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"jangchub" wrote in message
... On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:58:39 -0500, Steve Wertz wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:34:14 -0500, jangchub wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 04:12:52 GMT, "Dave" wrote: Current VWs are not so good with mpg, and even worse with dependability. Warranty has gone downhill as well. Females are (all) resource hogs by nature. They can't help it. No apology expected for such behavior. Dave Huh? I haven't a clue what you are talking about. I gave up trying to understand him on the first post. -sw Ya never know who is on the other end of this monitor. Oh well. I must be a resource hog! I'm not the one riding all over Travis and surrounding counties in a gas hog to save a few dollars on some plant, or to maybe find one you think is cute. Not spotlighting you in particular. Its just one symptom in many in the big picture of resource management that's not managed. Dave |
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 04:40:47 GMT, "Dave"
wrote: I'm not the one riding all over Travis and surrounding counties in a gas hog to save a few dollars on some plant, or to maybe find one you think is cute. Not spotlighting you in particular. Its just one symptom in many in the big picture of resource management that's not managed. Dave Driving all over town to find a cute plant? What arey you talking about? I didn't buy any plants this year. I grow from divisions, swaps, and seeds. I fill my truck up about one time a month, which is far less gas many other people use. My truck is ten years old and just turned 62.000 miles, most of which was long distance to New York, Wisconsin and The Grand Canyon. If you want to be managed, by all means move to Cuba. You will be completely managed. |
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jangchub wrote:
If you want to be managed, by all means move to Cuba. You will be completely managed. Please don't feed the trolls. -- Victor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam he Email me he |
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jangchub wrote: On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 04:40:47 GMT, "Dave" wrote: I'm not the one riding all over Travis and surrounding counties in a gas hog to save a few dollars on some plant, or to maybe find one you think is cute. Not spotlighting you in particular. Its just one symptom in many in the big picture of resource management that's not managed. Dave Driving all over town to find a cute plant? What arey you talking about? I didn't buy any plants this year. I grow from divisions, swaps, and seeds. I fill my truck up about one time a month, which is far less gas many other people use. My truck is ten years old and just turned 62.000 miles, most of which was long distance to New York, Wisconsin and The Grand Canyon. If you want to be managed, by all means move to Cuba. You will be completely managed. Want some birdhouse gourd seeds? I still have excess... -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:01:36 -0500, Victor Martinez
wrote: jangchub wrote: If you want to be managed, by all means move to Cuba. You will be completely managed. Please don't feed the trolls. Sorry, momentary lapse into childhood! |
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:22:42 -0500, Omelet
wrote: Want some birdhouse gourd seeds? I still have excess... My husband wants to know what I plan on doing with the 30 gourds I have been hauling for a few years now! All dried, waiting for holes and paint. I mean, we have the Martins all over. To be honest, I don't have ONE more spot anywhere on this half acre to put another thing. I think I really have to take things out, divide, pot them up and sell them back to the garden centers in spring. I made 20 or so brugmansia's, all getting huge, in addition to the ones I have. Then there are the vitex I potted up as seedlings with nowhere to plant them. I made the huge, enormous, gigantic mistake of planting a sumac. That thing would hold California together in the big one! So, you are sweet to offer, but I haven't a place to plant them. |
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