Mike Lyle wrote:
WaltA wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 12:33:23 +0100, "Mike Lyle" wrote:
,,
that we have an immense amount to learn
from the Euros about selling quality produce in open markets:

Yep, I agree with that, and no howevers this time :-)

Oh well, perhaps just a little however :-)) :-
I wonder how long the elfinsafty brigade will allow the French to
get
away with it ?
[...]

I'd love to see somebody try and stop the French doing exactly as
they please! But surely the point here is that declaring the variety
is a good thing for the consumer, not a bad one. If the EU enforces
that, then I'm all for it.

As someone who lives in Euroland, my personal experience is that the
larger supermarkets ie Carrefour, label all of their fruit and veg with
variety and country of origin. That of Spanish origin is labelled with
the province. Smaller supermarkets tend to leave the produce in its
original box, which is labelled not only with variety, but with name
and address of the producer. Open weekly markets don't seem to bother
with labels at all, but at least they offer free tasters of the fruit,
and they know their produce. Ask them on Saturday for half a dozen
avocados to reach perfection the following Wednesday, and they are
seldom wrong.

--
Jo

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:10:54 +0100, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:

WaltA wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 12:33:23 +0100, "Mike Lyle" wrote:
,,
that we have an immense amount to learn
from the Euros about selling quality produce in open markets:

Yep, I agree with that, and no howevers this time :-)

Oh well, perhaps just a little however :-)) :-
I wonder how long the elfinsafty brigade will allow the French to
get
away with it ?
[...]

I'd love to see somebody try and stop the French doing exactly as
they please!

Me too, I agree.
I don't think the French (or Italians, Spaniards, etc) have a word
for Jobsworth, do they ?

But surely the point here is that declaring the variety
is a good thing for the consumer,

I agree.

not a bad one.

Yup !

If the EU enforces that, then I'm all for it.

I'm with you on that.

Oi ! We can't go on agreeing like this, it aint natrel fer usenet
newsgroups !
There otta be a law agin it.

WaltA wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:10:54 +0100, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:
[...]
If the EU enforces that, then I'm all for it.

I'm with you on that.

No, you aren't.

Oi ! We can't go on agreeing like this, it aint natrel fer usenet
newsgroups !

Yes, it is.

There otta be a law agin it.

Oh, no, there oughtn't.

--
Mike.

Janet Baraclough wrote:
The message 1124864793.9be065849b6e7c577032d2d3a393c551@teran ews
from Tim Challenger contains these words:

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 04:55:52 +0100, Nick Worley wrote:

"Gilly" wrote in message
...
Does anyone know what variety of potato is likely to be the one
you
buy at
the supermarket - the normal everyday white potatoes in plastic
bags for about 90p or thereabouts for 2.5kg?

I know what you mean.
Very often in the supermarket I see potatoes labelled as
"potatoes",
but no
particular variety.
What does that mean? They must be some kind of variety, surely?
Nick

Do you require tomatoes, cucumbers and paprika to be labelled with
the variety?

Tomatoes and peppers usually are, here, so are mushrooms
apples,
oranges pears and lettuce.

And, come to that, I've never noticed potatoes without an obvious,
or, at worst, discoverable varietal name in Tesco, Sainsbury's, or
Waitrose*. Could have happened, but I've never noticed.

*Is it just me, or is Waitrose a rip-off? It reminds me of Hyacinth
Bucket for some reason.

--
Mike.

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:16:17 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote:

The message 1124864793.9be065849b6e7c577032d2d3a393c551@teran ews
from Tim Challenger contains these words:

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 04:55:52 +0100, Nick Worley wrote:

"Gilly" wrote in message
...
Does anyone know what variety of potato is likely to be the one you
buy at
the supermarket - the normal everyday white potatoes in plastic bags for
about 90p or thereabouts for 2.5kg?

I know what you mean.
Very often in the supermarket I see potatoes labelled as "potatoes",
but no
particular variety.
What does that mean? They must be some kind of variety, surely?
Nick

Do you require tomatoes, cucumbers and paprika to be labelled with the
variety?

Tomatoes and peppers usually are, here, so are mushrooms apples,
oranges pears and lettuce.

Janet.

Ah, ok.
I'd never noticed that before, other than "cocktail tomatoes" or "bell
peppers".

--
Tim C.

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:19:53 GMT, WaltA wrote:

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:10:54 +0100, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:

WaltA wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 12:33:23 +0100, "Mike Lyle" wrote:
,,
that we have an immense amount to learn
from the Euros about selling quality produce in open markets:

Yep, I agree with that, and no howevers this time :-)

Oh well, perhaps just a little however :-)) :-
I wonder how long the elfinsafty brigade will allow the French to
get
away with it ?
[...]

I'd love to see somebody try and stop the French doing exactly as
they please!

Me too, I agree.
I don't think the French (or Italians, Spaniards, etc) have a word
for Jobsworth, do they ?

But surely the point here is that declaring the variety
is a good thing for the consumer,

I agree.

not a bad one.

Yup !

If the EU enforces that, then I'm all for it.

I'm with you on that.

Oi ! We can't go on agreeing like this, it aint natrel fer usenet
newsgroups !
There otta be a law agin it.

I'll have a word with my contact in the European Commission. See if he
can't swing something.

--
Tim C.

Oi ! We can't go on agreeing like this, it aint natrel fer usenet
newsgroups !
There otta be a law agin it.

I'll have a word with my contact in the European Commission. See if he
can't swing something.


Is Mr Mandelson, the Trade Commissioner, your friend, by any chance?
He's already holding up Chinese brassieres so he might be able to
swing something in that quarter, too.

Jupiter wrote:

Is Mr Mandelson, the Trade Commissioner, your friend, by any chance?
He's already holding up Chinese brassieres so he might be able to
swing something in that quarter, too.

Chinese brassicas? Is that the same as Pak Choi?

--
Jo

Totty wrote:
Jupiter wrote:

Is Mr Mandelson, the Trade Commissioner, your friend, by any
chance?
He's already holding up Chinese brassieres so he might be able to
swing something in that quarter, too.

Chinese brassicas? Is that the same as Pak Choi?

That pun is insupportable.

--
Mike.

Mike Lyle wrote:
Totty wrote:
Jupiter wrote:

Is Mr Mandelson, the Trade Commissioner, your friend, by any
chance?
He's already holding up Chinese brassieres so he might be able to
swing something in that quarter, too.

Chinese brassicas? Is that the same as Pak Choi?

That pun is insupportable.

Oh no it's not....I have a Webb's Wonder-bra....

--
Jo

"Tim Challenger" wrote in message
news:1124864793.9be065849b6e7c577032d2d3a393c551@t eranews...
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 04:55:52 +0100, Nick Worley wrote:

"Gilly" wrote in message
...
Does anyone know what variety of potato is likely to be the one you buy
at
the supermarket - the normal everyday white potatoes in plastic bags for
about 90p or thereabouts for 2.5kg?

I know what you mean.
Very often in the supermarket I see potatoes labelled as "potatoes", but
no
particular variety.
What does that mean? They must be some kind of variety, surely?
Nick

Do you require tomatoes, cucumbers and paprika to be labelled with the
variety?
I think it would be nice. But I'm not going to get my knickers in a twist
because of it.

Having more information about the food we're all eating can't be a bad
thing, surely?

At my local supermarket here in England, I can get anonymous tomatoes in a
box (simply labelled "tomatoes"), plum tomatoes & cherry tomatoes (on or off
the vine). I have some cherry tomatoes in my fridge now, which are labelled
as the "Conchita" variety. I'd never noticed before that they even had a
variety printed on them. I'll have to check the plum tomatoes next time I'm
there. Same goes for the paprikas (we call them red/green/yellow/orange
peppers in England, also known elsewhere in the world as capsicums or bell
peppers). (In England btw, "paprika" only refers to the red spice derived
from red peppers that is used in goulash).

As for potatoes, it seems odd to me that next to a big box in my local
supermarket labelled simply "White potatoes", I can get (at various times of
the year) other potatoes which *are* labelled, e.g. Maris Piper, Jersey
Royals, King Edwards, Desiree, Charlotte, etc. So what variety are these
anonymous white potatoes?

Regards
Nick

Totty wrote:
Mike Lyle wrote:
Totty wrote:
Jupiter wrote:

Is Mr Mandelson, the Trade Commissioner, your friend, by any
chance? He's already holding up Chinese brassieres so he might
be
able to swing something in that quarter, too.

Chinese brassicas? Is that the same as Pak Choi?

That pun is insupportable.

Oh no it's not....I have a Webb's Wonder-bra....

Mmm, nice! If you like them crunchy, that is. To continue the
gardening theme, a friend told me how he was detailed to escort a
performer when she entertained the troops during the War, and
discovered that in her make-up kit she had a small collection of
acorn cups used to heighten the visual effect.

--
Mike.

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:27:24 +0100, Jupiter wrote:


Oi ! We can't go on agreeing like this, it aint natrel fer usenet
newsgroups !
There otta be a law agin it.

I'll have a word with my contact in the European Commission. See if he
can't swing something.

Is Mr Mandelson, the Trade Commissioner, your friend, by any chance?
He's already holding up Chinese brassieres so he might be able to
swing something in that quarter, too.

No ;-)
--
Tim C.

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:57:14 +0100, Nick Worley wrote:

"Tim Challenger" wrote in message
news:1124864793.9be065849b6e7c577032d2d3a393c551@t eranews...
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 04:55:52 +0100, Nick Worley wrote:

"Gilly" wrote in message
...
Does anyone know what variety of potato is likely to be the one you buy
at
the supermarket - the normal everyday white potatoes in plastic bags for
about 90p or thereabouts for 2.5kg?

I know what you mean.
Very often in the supermarket I see potatoes labelled as "potatoes", but
no
particular variety.
What does that mean? They must be some kind of variety, surely?
Nick

Do you require tomatoes, cucumbers and paprika to be labelled with the
variety?
I think it would be nice. But I'm not going to get my knickers in a twist
because of it.

Having more information about the food we're all eating can't be a bad
thing, surely?

Of course. I agree totally. The point I was trying to make was that it
seems odd to me that we get wound up about the details of not labelling
potatoes when (it seemed to me) nearly everything else didn't have any
variety label anyway.

At my local supermarket here in England, I can get anonymous tomatoes in a
box (simply labelled "tomatoes"), plum tomatoes & cherry tomatoes (on or off
the vine). I have some cherry tomatoes in my fridge now, which are labelled
as the "Conchita" variety. I'd never noticed before that they even had a
variety printed on them. I'll have to check the plum tomatoes next time I'm
there.

That is my experience as well. I'll have to look more closely.

Same goes for the paprikas (we call them red/green/yellow/orange
peppers in England, also known elsewhere in the world as capsicums or bell
peppers). (In England btw, "paprika" only refers to the red spice derived
from red peppers that is used in goulash).

I did know that but I forgot. Doh! I'm so used to the sweet peppers here
being called paprika as well.

As for potatoes, it seems odd to me that next to a big box in my local
supermarket labelled simply "White potatoes", I can get (at various times of
the year) other potatoes which *are* labelled, e.g. Maris Piper, Jersey
Royals, King Edwards, Desiree, Charlotte, etc. So what variety are these
anonymous white potatoes?

no eyed deer.
But that is also useful to know. Unless you're pretty well up on the many
potato varieties, knowing that the potato is white or purple, and is floury
or waxy is what most people really want to know, I think.

--
Tim C.

Janet Baraclough wrote:
The message
from "Mike Lyle" contains these words:

Totty wrote:
Jupiter wrote:

Is Mr Mandelson, the Trade Commissioner, your friend, by any
chance?
He's already holding up Chinese brassieres so he might be able to
swing something in that quarter, too.

Chinese brassicas? Is that the same as Pak Choi?

That pun is insupportable.

How low can it go

Hao low? To the Ni.

--
Jo