In article , andyp writes
Mike, just curious as my father looks after a local bowls green. The amount
of water used to water a bowls green (not to mention football and cricket
pitch) would empty even a 750 cubic metre tank very quickly.

This depends on the demand and rain frequency. I know nothing of the
care of Bowls Greens whatsoever, but have been to visit a very popular
one to get an idea on layout. I would imagine that the one I visited was
watered by mains hose as it is in the middle of houses:-)) However as
someone else has explained, we are metered here in the Isle of Wight so
any 'free' water is a bonus.

With the high cost of the tank do you really think you will be saving very
much?

The tank could be concrete block and be part of the club house base.

Or could either be concrete block or steel section tank and be sited
behind one of the proposed positions of the club house.

How will you get sufficient pressure to supply your sprinklers?

It would have to be pumped. At this very early stage I envisage the
complete system of max / min float switches operating a pump to switch
on under demand. As I explained somewhere else, I am very familiar with
this system of water supply in boats.

I would be very interested to know any conclusions from your research as my
father's club are always looking for ways of saving money as well.

Do they have the prospective advantage of a new club house which would
be a water catchment for them?

What I have here on this site is a 'free hand' to come up with something
for the community. It was the Town's Football Club and the Local Council
have just bought it. It has been a dumping ground for a long time with
just about everything dumped you could imagine. An old engine. half a
dozen lamp standards, old TV's, washing machines, settees, and tons of
other stuff.

I have managed to get onto the site a football pitch, bowls green with
it's own pavilion, skateboard park, a Petanque terrain, a large multi
purpose club house which could be used for community events and meetings
and car parking for up to 80 odd cars subject to the final plan.
But as I have explained elsewhere, we have a flooding problem in another
part of the town and I am very active in opposing planning permission
which would put more rain water into the sewers. I would oppose a club
house, so have therefore thought through how it can be done and to the
club's advantage.

Money is not the primary problem.

Watch this space. I am getting a lot of help and ideas here and by
email.

Mike
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"Mike" wrote in message
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I would like to find out the Annual rainfall, in monthly figures for
Sandown on the Isle of Wight. I have looked at Google and not found it.
Anyone know if this can be found?

Trying to find how big a holding tank needs to be to catch all the rain
off the roof of a new clubhouse of 50 metres x 20 metres.

Water will be used for watering Bowls Green, Football/Cricket pitch etc.

Any 'number crunchers' out there? :-))
Mike

Why do you need to catch all the rain? I think what you really want to know
is how much water do you need to store to water your grass. If your
clubhouse catches more than that then so what? You don't need to store the
excess, just let it go.

Martin

Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer ^W^W^W^W uk.rec.gardening, I
heard Martin Sykes say...
Why do you need to catch all the rain? I think what you really want to know
is how much water do you need to store to water your grass. If your
clubhouse catches more than that then so what? You don't need to store the
excess, just let it go.

He can always sell the excess to nearby gardeners at less than the cost
from the water board.
--
Fenny
Spike: The truth is - I like this world. You've got dog racing,
Manchester United and you've got people. Billions of people walking
around like Happy Meals with legs. It's alright here.

In article , Martin Sykes
writes

just let it go.

Where? There will be no connection to the main sewer. See previous posts
re flooding and inadequate sewers.

Mike

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In article , Fenny
k writes
Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer ^W^W^W^W uk.rec.gardening, I
heard Martin Sykes say...
Why do you need to catch all the rain? I think what you really want to know
is how much water do you need to store to water your grass. If your
clubhouse catches more than that then so what? You don't need to store the
excess, just let it go.

He can always sell the excess to nearby gardeners at less than the cost
from the water board.

If the site has an excess. so will the local gardeners :-(( Supply and
demand sets a price. 'They' will be wanting to sell 'their' excess water
:-))

I have 5 x 40 gallon water butts along the back of my garage. When they
are full, no one wants the excess. When they are MT, so are the
neighbours :-(( but thanks or the input:-)

Mike
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On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 18:56:53 +0100, Mike wrote:

This will give an annual volume on the clubhouse roof of approx 750 cubic
metres! The tank will need to be 10 by 10 by 7.5 metres! It might be
better to calculate the volume of water needed during a drought of X days
duration for its tank might be smaller but still meet requirements.

This is why I would like the figure per month because at no time will
the total annual rainfall be in the tank at the same time :-))

You'd still need to allow for 3 - 6 months capcity though - because you
are unlikely to be watering between (say) Nov - Feb. - assuming you can
get enough capacity to store that much water withgout problems.

Have you thought about "grey" water recycling (output of sinks, showers
etc., goes to flush the toilets and wash the car, water the garden) as
well? That could significantly reduce the amount you put down the drains.
The rainwater could also be used for showers, but it would need to be
trated to be 'potable' if you wanted to use it for drinking etc.

Sarah

In article , Sarah
Dale writes

You'd still need to allow for 3 - 6 months capcity though - because you
are unlikely to be watering between (say) Nov - Feb. - assuming you can
get enough capacity to store that much water withgout problems.

I don't think we will have any problem with capacity as we will be able
to either put the club house on top or in front of the tank/capacity
whatever it is.

Have you thought about "grey" water recycling (output of sinks, showers
etc., goes to flush the toilets and wash the car, water the garden) as
well? That could significantly reduce the amount you put down the drains.

No I hadn't thought of that, thanks. There will be changing rooms
under/within the Grandstand and a fairly substantial Cafe/kitchen set up
in the main club, along with a bar and of course public toilets. :-))
Thanks for that idea.

The rainwater could also be used for showers,

I had 'sort of' thought of that but not given it too much thought. I
think I had better give it a bit more now :-))

but it would need to be
trated to be 'potable' if you wanted to use it for drinking etc.

No won't go down that line :-)

Sarah

Another load of ideas :-))

Thanks.

Mike


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"Mike" wrote in message
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I would like to find out the Annual rainfall, in monthly figures for
Sandown on the Isle of Wight. I have looked at Google and not found it.
Anyone know if this can be found?

Trying to find how big a holding tank needs to be to catch all the rain
off the roof of a new clubhouse of 50 metres x 20 metres.

I can't find anywhere on the IOW, but the figures for Calshott, in cms and
based on 49 years' records, a

Annual 76.2
Jan 8.4
Feb 5.7
Mar 6.1
Apr 4.9
May 4.8
Jun 5.0
Jul 4.2
Aug 5.3
Sep 6.9
Oct 8.2
Nov 8.5
Dec 8.4

Colin Bignell

In article ,
nightjar writes:
|
| "Mike" wrote in message
| news | I would like to find out the Annual rainfall, in monthly figures for
| Sandown on the Isle of Wight. I have looked at Google and not found it.
| Anyone know if this can be found?
|
| Trying to find how big a holding tank needs to be to catch all the rain
| off the roof of a new clubhouse of 50 metres x 20 metres.
|
| I can't find anywhere on the IOW, but the figures for Calshott, in cms and
| based on 49 years' records, a
|
| Annual 76.2
| Jan 8.4
| Feb 5.7
| Mar 6.1
| Apr 4.9
| May 4.8
| Jun 5.0
| Jul 4.2
| Aug 5.3
| Sep 6.9
| Oct 8.2
| Nov 8.5
| Dec 8.4

My atlas gives only about 20% monthly variation for the south
coast. I am surprised at a factor of two.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article , nightjar@?.?
writes


I can't find anywhere on the IOW, but the figures for Calshott, in cms and
based on 49 years' records, a

Annual 76.2
Jan 8.4
Feb 5.7
Mar 6.1
Apr 4.9
May 4.8
Jun 5.0
Jul 4.2
Aug 5.3
Sep 6.9
Oct 8.2
Nov 8.5
Dec 8.4

Colin Bignell



Thanks Colin for that. Calshot is not too far away and whilst we do have
variations of weather Island v Mainland, I don't think it is that far
out. I have seen brilliant sunshine across the water when it has been
chucking it down here and visa versa.

I will go along with those figures.

(Still working on the layout and contents of the building(s) at present.
Have decided to go for a totally enclosed all year round Skateboard
Park. Was just going to 'something in the corner')

Thanks for the input folks :-))

and yes I have had someone who wants to retire here and be the
Groundsman!!!!!! Who knows, we will have to have one :-))

Will also want a Steward/Secretary to run a complex with 2 (?) bars ;-)

Mike

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