Are Israeli attacks against the people of Lebanon and Gaza in accord with
the requirements of international law, and if not, how are these attacks any
different to Hitler invading Poland?

Guy Fawkes wrote:
Are Israeli attacks against the people of Lebanon and Gaza in accord with
the requirements of international law, and if not, how are these attacks any
different to Hitler invading Poland?

I think the main difference is that the Lebanon won't end up in the
hands of the Russians in 6 years time.

In message , Guy Fawkes
writes
Are Israeli attacks against the people of Lebanon and Gaza in accord with
the requirements of international law, and if not, how are these attacks any
different to Hitler invading Poland?


Poland wasn't firing rockets into Germany........
--
John

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 09:45:49 +0100, Humble Scribe
wrote:

In message , Guy Fawkes
writes
Are Israeli attacks against the people of Lebanon and Gaza in accord
with
the requirements of international law, and if not, how are these
attacks any
different to Hitler invading Poland?


Poland wasn't firing rockets into Germany........

Just to be clear, are you saying that the current Israeli actions are
justified?

Arthur

Guy Fawkes wrote:
Are Israeli attacks against the people of Lebanon and Gaza in accord with
the requirements of international law, and if not, how are these attacks any
different to Hitler invading Poland?


the parrallel is misplaced..the sentiment is correct.

In message op.tc6u8iu1q4en03@home1, Arthur
writes
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 09:45:49 +0100, Humble Scribe
wrote:

In message , Guy Fawkes
writes
Are Israeli attacks against the people of Lebanon and Gaza in accord
with
the requirements of international law, and if not, how are these
attacks any
different to Hitler invading Poland?


Poland wasn't firing rockets into Germany........

Just to be clear, are you saying that the current Israeli actions are
justified?

No- just pointing out the difference between Hitler's action and
Israel's action as requested.

That said and although I am Israel's Zionist policies, I suspect that if
the IRA were regularly firing rockets into Liverpool and had a
fundamental objective of wiping the UK off the map (as Hizbollah does
with Israel) then would we not support the UK army seeking to wipe them
out even if they were in the Irish Republic and the Irish Government
were doing nothing to stop them?

But then we get back to why are Hizbollah firing the rockets. They will
claim in retaliation for Israel's military actions over the last 50
years; Israel will claim that the military actions would not happen if
it were not for Hizbollah/Hamas terrorism on Israeli soil and so on.
Regrettably this is just another step along inexorable road to all-out
Arab/Israeli war in the Middle East- possibly even nuclear, within the
next 5-10 years. This could lead to a broader global conflict to gain
overall control of the Middle East/Caspian Sea oil & gas reserves.

The outlook is not good! :-))
--
John

"Arthur" wrote in message
newsp.tc6u8iu1q4en03@home1...
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 09:45:49 +0100, Humble Scribe
wrote:

In message , Guy Fawkes
writes
Are Israeli attacks against the people of Lebanon and Gaza in accord
with
the requirements of international law, and if not, how are these
attacks any
different to Hitler invading Poland?


Poland wasn't firing rockets into Germany........

Just to be clear, are you saying that the current Israeli actions are
justified?

Arthur

I think what he's saying is that Poland didn't support or give haven to
anyone lobbing rockets into Germany. In the case of Lebanon, it's not quite
so clear-cut.

Whether Israel's response is proportionate is another question altogether
which by it's very nature won't get a consensus opinion.

kj wrote:
Guy Fawkes wrote:
Are Israeli attacks against the people of Lebanon and Gaza in accord with
the requirements of international law, and if not, how are these attacks any
different to Hitler invading Poland?

the parrallel is misplaced..the sentiment is correct.

The sentiment is taken from a rather simplistic and one sided outlook
of the situation, however. While this should in no way been seen as
supporting the actions of the Israelis, the current situation in the
Middle East is considerably more complex and blame is certainly not
easily apportioned.

"Humble Scribe" wrote in message
...
In message , Guy Fawkes
writes
Are Israeli attacks against the people of Lebanon and Gaza in accord with
the requirements of international law, and if not, how are these attacks
any
different to Hitler invading Poland?


Poland wasn't firing rockets into Germany........

Lebanon are _NOT_firing rockets in to Israel. You idiot, and the Israelis
fully accept that.

" Grant" wrote in message
...

"Humble Scribe" wrote in message
...
In message , Guy Fawkes
writes
Are Israeli attacks against the people of Lebanon and Gaza in accord with
the requirements of international law, and if not, how are these attacks
any
different to Hitler invading Poland?


Poland wasn't firing rockets into Germany........

Lebanon are _NOT_firing rockets in to Israel. You idiot, and the Israelis
fully accept that.

Even George Bush accepts that. He blames Syria, as do many politicians.

wrote in message
ups.com...
kj wrote:
Guy Fawkes wrote:
Are Israeli attacks against the people of Lebanon and Gaza in accord
with
the requirements of international law, and if not, how are these
attacks any
different to Hitler invading Poland?

the parrallel is misplaced..the sentiment is correct.

The sentiment is taken from a rather simplistic and one sided outlook
of the situation, however. While this should in no way been seen as
supporting the actions of the Israelis, the current situation in the
Middle East is considerably more complex and blame is certainly not
easily apportioned.

Any nation that uses its war machine to attack innocent civilians, should be
blamed one hundred percent. There is no excuse. Even if they think there are
terrorists in a block of flats, this does not excuse demolishing the block
of flats plus four or five neighbouring blocks of flats.

I am glad that Kim Howells had the courage and integrity to say what Beckett
and Blair did not dare say.

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 11:52:13 +0100, Humble Scribe
wrote:

In message op.tc6u8iu1q4en03@home1, Arthur
writes
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 09:45:49 +0100, Humble Scribe
wrote:

In message , Guy Fawkes
writes
Are Israeli attacks against the people of Lebanon and Gaza in accord
with
the requirements of international law, and if not, how are these
attacks any
different to Hitler invading Poland?


Poland wasn't firing rockets into Germany........

Just to be clear, are you saying that the current Israeli actions are
justified?

No- just pointing out the difference between Hitler's action and
Israel's action as requested.

That said and although I am Israel's Zionist policies, I suspect that if
the IRA were regularly firing rockets into Liverpool and had a
fundamental objective of wiping the UK off the map (as Hizbollah does
with Israel) then would we not support the UK army seeking to wipe them
out even if they were in the Irish Republic and the Irish Government
were doing nothing to stop them?


In such an event, I doubt very much that the RAF would be bombing the city
of Dublin after rendering its exit roads unpassable to refugees and
destroying the power stations.


But then we get back to why are Hizbollah firing the rockets. They will
claim in retaliation for Israel's military actions over the last 50
years; Israel will claim that the military actions would not happen if
it were not for Hizbollah/Hamas terrorism on Israeli soil and so on.
Regrettably this is just another step along inexorable road to all-out
Arab/Israeli war in the Middle East- possibly even nuclear, within the
next 5-10 years. This could lead to a broader global conflict to gain
overall control of the Middle East/Caspian Sea oil & gas reserves.

The outlook is not good! :-))

Agreed 100%

Arthur

"Humble Scribe" wrote in message
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| In message op.tc6u8iu1q4en03@home1, Arthur
| writes
"fundamental objective of wiping the UK off the map (as Hizbollah does
with Israel)"

Which is basically saying ''Hizbollah wants to wipe Israel off the map''

What is the problem with that??? Could you tell me when and how the Country of
Israel came into being???

In message , Grant
writes

"Humble Scribe" wrote in message
...
In message , Guy Fawkes
writes
Are Israeli attacks against the people of Lebanon and Gaza in accord with
the requirements of international law, and if not, how are these attacks
any
different to Hitler invading Poland?


Poland wasn't firing rockets into Germany........

Lebanon are _NOT_firing rockets in to Israel. You idiot, and the Israelis
fully accept that.


Thank you for your considered, albeit incorrect, opinion. Israel is
fully aware that the culprits are, but also accuse the Lebanese
government of doing nothing to obstruct them. A Lebanese minister has
just implicitly admitted on "World at One" that the Lebanese government
is incapable of controlling. Yet the same government is also stating
that the Lebanese Army will stand shoulder-to-shoulder with if Israel
invades on the ground.
--
John

"Humble Scribe" wrote in message
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In message , Grant
writes

"Humble Scribe" wrote in message
...
In message , Guy Fawkes
writes
Are Israeli attacks against the people of Lebanon and Gaza in accord
with
the requirements of international law, and if not, how are these attacks
any
different to Hitler invading Poland?


Poland wasn't firing rockets into Germany........

Lebanon are _NOT_firing rockets in to Israel. You idiot, and the Israelis
fully accept that.


Thank you for your considered, albeit incorrect, opinion.
No my opinion is totally correct_No one_ i repeat _No one_ not even the
Israelis believe that the Lebanon is responsible in any way, yet the Lebanon
and its people are suffering at the hands of Israel.

Israel is fully aware that the culprits are, but also accuse the Lebanese
government of doing nothing to obstruct them. A Lebanese minister has just
implicitly admitted on "World at One" that the Lebanese government is
incapable of controlling.
So that justifies destroying Lebanon, Israel really is good when it comes to
creating a positive image of its self to its neighbours, perhaps Israel
could not survive if it was at peace with them.

Yet the same government is also stating that the Lebanese Army will stand
shoulder-to-shoulder with if Israel invades on the ground.

You used the word _invade_ well done! and what should a sovereign state do
when it is invaded? and is having its entire infrastructure destroyed.

You are a halfwit.