I swear to God I'm going to start using these darn things as footballs!
While I have no problem with hedgehogs per se, they drive my dog mad
when they saunter into our back yard at night.

In the morning, I find "micro-craters" all over in the grass where the
dog has encircled the hedgehogs while barking and pawing at them.
Whether she's trying to eat the things or make friends I do not know,
but I've seen her pick them up in her mouth and carry them into her
kennel.

Short of creating a diabolical set of wooden obstacles that hang on my
iron gate, is there any household substance that might discourage a
hedgehog from visiting?

On 8 Aug 2006 00:05:14 -0700, "Evan" wrote:

I swear to God I'm going to start using these darn things as footballs!
While I have no problem with hedgehogs per se, they drive my dog mad
when they saunter into our back yard at night.

In the morning, I find "micro-craters" all over in the grass where the
dog has encircled the hedgehogs while barking and pawing at them.
Whether she's trying to eat the things or make friends I do not know,
but I've seen her pick them up in her mouth and carry them into her
kennel.

Dick.






Jim Webster,Barrow-in-Furness farmer,troll & president of Cumbria CLA.
would you let your children near this person? see
http://tinyurl.com/kgbnf
now in the sixth year of raving about Pat Gardiner and
still no result.

Need to complain about me bringing Country Land and Business Association
into disrepute? Why not contact us at
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SW1X 8PQ

Telephone: +44 (0)20 7235 0511
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E-mail:


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William Worsley – Vice President


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You are making yourself look foolish. The book on Grebes by Andre
Konter that was published in 2001 was entitled 'Grebes of OUR World'.
My book, published only this month, is entitled 'Grebes of THE World',
and as such is entirely different. The similarity of the front covers
is quite coincidental. My book IS the first ever devoted to Grebes.

Malcolm Ogilivie.

"Evan" wrote in message
ups.com...
I swear to God I'm going to start using these darn things as footballs!
While I have no problem with hedgehogs per se, they drive my dog mad
when they saunter into our back yard at night.

In the morning, I find "micro-craters" all over in the grass where the
dog has encircled the hedgehogs while barking and pawing at them.
Whether she's trying to eat the things or make friends I do not know,
but I've seen her pick them up in her mouth and carry them into her
kennel.

Short of creating a diabolical set of wooden obstacles that hang on my
iron gate, is there any household substance that might discourage a
hedgehog from visiting?

get rid of the dog hes the one making the mess

On 8/8/06 08:05, in article
, "Evan"
wrote:

I swear to God I'm going to start using these darn things as footballs!
While I have no problem with hedgehogs per se, they drive my dog mad
when they saunter into our back yard at night.

In the morning, I find "micro-craters" all over in the grass where the
dog has encircled the hedgehogs while barking and pawing at them.
Whether she's trying to eat the things or make friends I do not know,
but I've seen her pick them up in her mouth and carry them into her
kennel.

Short of creating a diabolical set of wooden obstacles that hang on my
iron gate, is there any household substance that might discourage a
hedgehog from visiting?

If we didn't have badgers round here, I'd ask you to send us the hedgehogs.
As it is, we do get some hogs and our dogs do just as yours do. We follow
the simple expedient of going outside and calling the dogs in!
Hedgehogs are your friend - they eat all sorts of things you don't want
chewing your plants, so call the dog off!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

Sacha wrote:
If we didn't have badgers round here, I'd ask you to send us the hedgehogs.
As it is, we do get some hogs and our dogs do just as yours do. We follow
the simple expedient of going outside and calling the dogs in!
Hedgehogs are your friend - they eat all sorts of things you don't want
chewing your plants, so call the dog off!


We tend to sleep at night. My dog's barking usually doesn't wake me up!
I discover the mess only on the morning after.

Only when I'm up really late can I stop the "madness" before it
happens.

"Evan" wrote in message
oups.com...
Sacha wrote:
If we didn't have badgers round here, I'd ask you to send us the
hedgehogs.
As it is, we do get some hogs and our dogs do just as yours do. We
follow
the simple expedient of going outside and calling the dogs in!
Hedgehogs are your friend - they eat all sorts of things you don't want
chewing your plants, so call the dog off!


We tend to sleep at night. My dog's barking usually doesn't wake me up!
I discover the mess only on the morning after.

Only when I'm up really late can I stop the "madness" before it
happens.

Perhaps a smaller pen or enclosure around the kennel into which the dog
stays for the night might be a solution (glad I am not a neighbour!)

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

On 8/8/06 13:58, in article
, "Evan"
wrote:

Sacha wrote:
If we didn't have badgers round here, I'd ask you to send us the hedgehogs.
As it is, we do get some hogs and our dogs do just as yours do. We follow
the simple expedient of going outside and calling the dogs in!
Hedgehogs are your friend - they eat all sorts of things you don't want
chewing your plants, so call the dog off!


We tend to sleep at night. My dog's barking usually doesn't wake me up!
I discover the mess only on the morning after.

Only when I'm up really late can I stop the "madness" before it
happens.

Your dog is left out all night? Oh!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

On 8 Aug 2006 05:58:57 -0700, "Evan" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
If we didn't have badgers round here, I'd ask you to send us the hedgehogs.
As it is, we do get some hogs and our dogs do just as yours do. We follow
the simple expedient of going outside and calling the dogs in!
Hedgehogs are your friend - they eat all sorts of things you don't want
chewing your plants, so call the dog off!


We tend to sleep at night. My dog's barking usually doesn't wake me up!

Just the neighbors!

I discover the mess only on the morning after.

Do you pass out?

Only when I'm up really late can I stop the "madness" before it
happens.

Lock the mutt up at night.






Jim Webster,Barrow-in-Furness farmer,troll & president of Cumbria CLA.
would you let your children near this person? see
http://tinyurl.com/kgbnf
now in the sixth year of raving about Pat Gardiner and
still no result.

Need to complain about me bringing Country Land and Business Association
into disrepute? Why not contact us at
Country Land and Business Association

16 Belgrave Square
London
SW1X 8PQ

Telephone: +44 (0)20 7235 0511
Fax: +44 (0)20 7235 4696
E-mail:


David Fursdon – President


Phone: 020 7235 0511
FAX: 020 7235 4696
Email


Henry Aubrey-Fletcher – Deputy President


Phone: 020 7235 0511
FAX: 020 7235 4696
Email


William Worsley – Vice President


Phone: 020 7235 0511
FAX: 020 7235 4696
Email


You are making yourself look foolish. The book on Grebes by Andre
Konter that was published in 2001 was entitled 'Grebes of OUR World'.
My book, published only this month, is entitled 'Grebes of THE World',
and as such is entirely different. The similarity of the front covers
is quite coincidental. My book IS the first ever devoted to Grebes.

Malcolm Ogilivie.

Jim Webster wrote:
We tend to sleep at night. My dog's barking usually doesn't wake me up!
Just the neighbors!

Hence why I need to address the issue.


I discover the mess only on the morning after.
Do you pass out?

Dog is out back, we sleep in rooms toward front of house. She doesn't
bark incessently. Usually growling. It's the lawn digging that is the
problem.


Only when I'm up really late can I stop the "madness" before it happens.
Lock the mutt up at night.

She's lived inside at night the last three summers. Had new baby, so
had to fill bedrooms a bit more than before. No desire for dog hair and
smell to get on the kids.

Plus she pooed diarrhea all over the toddler the morning of his
birthday. That was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back.
She's slept outside ever since.

On 8 Aug 2006 08:25:51 -0700, "Evan" wrote:

Jim Webster wrote:
We tend to sleep at night. My dog's barking usually doesn't wake me up!

Just the neighbors!

Hence why I need to address the issue.

Lock the dog in, or move.


I discover the mess only on the morning after.
Do you pass out?

Dog is out back, we sleep in rooms toward front of house. She doesn't
bark incessently. Usually growling. It's the lawn digging that is the
problem.

Not to the neighbors.


Only when I'm up really late can I stop the "madness" before it happens.

Lock the mutt up at night.

She's lived inside at night the last three summers. Had new baby, so
had to fill bedrooms a bit more than before. No desire for dog hair and
smell to get on the kids.

Should have thought of that before you got the mutt, or the brat.


Plus she pooed diarrhea all over the toddler the morning of his
birthday. That was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back.
She's slept outside ever since.

Shoot the brat.








Jim Webster,Barrow-in-Furness farmer,troll & president of Cumbria CLA.
would you let your children near this person? see
http://tinyurl.com/kgbnf
now in the sixth year of raving about Pat Gardiner and
still no result.

Need to complain about me bringing Country Land and Business Association
into disrepute? Why not contact us at
Country Land and Business Association

16 Belgrave Square
London
SW1X 8PQ

Telephone: +44 (0)20 7235 0511
Fax: +44 (0)20 7235 4696
E-mail:


David Fursdon – President


Phone: 020 7235 0511
FAX: 020 7235 4696
Email


Henry Aubrey-Fletcher – Deputy President


Phone: 020 7235 0511
FAX: 020 7235 4696
Email


William Worsley – Vice President


Phone: 020 7235 0511
FAX: 020 7235 4696
Email


You are making yourself look foolish. The book on Grebes by Andre
Konter that was published in 2001 was entitled 'Grebes of OUR World'.
My book, published only this month, is entitled 'Grebes of THE World',
and as such is entirely different. The similarity of the front covers
is quite coincidental. My book IS the first ever devoted to Grebes.

Malcolm Ogilivie.

On 8/8/06 16:25, in article
, "Evan"
wrote:

Jim Webster wrote:
We tend to sleep at night. My dog's barking usually doesn't wake me up!
Just the neighbors!

Hence why I need to address the issue.


I discover the mess only on the morning after.
Do you pass out?

Dog is out back, we sleep in rooms toward front of house. She doesn't
bark incessently. Usually growling. It's the lawn digging that is the
problem.


Only when I'm up really late can I stop the "madness" before it happens.
Lock the mutt up at night.

She's lived inside at night the last three summers. Had new baby, so
had to fill bedrooms a bit more than before. No desire for dog hair and
smell to get on the kids.

Plus she pooed diarrhea all over the toddler the morning of his
birthday. That was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back.
She's slept outside ever since.

And will continue to act up as a consequence, I'm afraid. She must have a
nose severely out of joint. I do indeed appreciate your problem but the dog
must be having a mini nervous breakdown. A lot of dog behaviourists advise
getting dogs *after* the baby is born because then the dog learns its place
in the pecking order naturally. I would suggest re-homing the dog might be
a better solution for all of you. To go from a house dog always living
inside to an unwanted source of hair and faeces can't be a happy experience
for the dog or for you.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(email address on website)

"Evan" wrote in message
ups.com...
I swear to God I'm going to start using these darn things as footballs!
While I have no problem with hedgehogs per se, they drive my dog mad
when they saunter into our back yard at night.

In the morning, I find "micro-craters" all over in the grass where the
dog has encircled the hedgehogs while barking and pawing at them.
Whether she's trying to eat the things or make friends I do not know,
but I've seen her pick them up in her mouth and carry them into her
kennel.

Short of creating a diabolical set of wooden obstacles that hang on my
iron gate, is there any household substance that might discourage a
hedgehog from visiting?


Why don't you construct a wire compound around your dog's kennel, thus
keeping the animals apart?

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:48:01 +0100, "BAC"
wrote:


"Evan" wrote in message
oups.com...
I swear to God I'm going to start using these darn things as footballs!
While I have no problem with hedgehogs per se, they drive my dog mad
when they saunter into our back yard at night.

In the morning, I find "micro-craters" all over in the grass where the
dog has encircled the hedgehogs while barking and pawing at them.
Whether she's trying to eat the things or make friends I do not know,
but I've seen her pick them up in her mouth and carry them into her
kennel.

Short of creating a diabolical set of wooden obstacles that hang on my
iron gate, is there any household substance that might discourage a
hedgehog from visiting?


Why don't you construct a wire compound around your dog's kennel, thus
keeping the animals apart?


The hogs would not venture into a dog kennel.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%





Malcolm Ogilvie of on the suggestion he
copied Konters book.


" You are making yourself look foolish. The book on Grebes by Andre
Konter that was published in 2001 was entitled 'Grebes of OUR World'.
My book, published only this month, is entitled 'Grebes of THE World',
and as such is entirely different. The similarity of the front covers
is quite coincidental. My book IS the first ever devoted to Grebes.

Malcolm Ogilivie."

...............................................

KONTER (Andre) - Grebes of our World. Visiting all Species on Five
Continents - 2001, 8vo. 187pp. Colour photographs, line drawings. A
description of the 22 species of grebes, their natural history, ecology
and behaviour.


Grebes of the World
Malcolm Ogilvie
The book starts with an authoritative introduction on the origin,
evolution, distribution, physiology and behaviour of grebes, followed by
accounts of each of the 22 species


Malcolm it looks as though Konter might dispute that statement!

Rob

"Yes, indeed, what I said was wrong and I apologise to Andre Konter,


Malcolm Ogilvie"

................................................

The error I made was in a chatty piece about the actual writing of the
book which I posted to a non-birdwatching newsgroup

M Ogilvie


You clearly and explicitly stated that yours was the first book on the
subject, in the full knowledge that the topic had recently been
covered very thoroughly in Konter's book.
The facts speak for themselves. You are a liar who only had the grace
to own up when you had been found out - you even persisted in giving
the impression that you were the first to write it *after* I had drawn
attention to your untruth. Your apology comes a little late.
You do yourself no credit in introducing other, wholly irrelevant
matters in order to deflect criticism from your behaviour. Shame on
you.

Paul

"©¿©" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:48:01 +0100, "BAC"
wrote:


"Evan" wrote in message
oups.com...
I swear to God I'm going to start using these darn things as footballs!
While I have no problem with hedgehogs per se, they drive my dog mad
when they saunter into our back yard at night.

In the morning, I find "micro-craters" all over in the grass where the
dog has encircled the hedgehogs while barking and pawing at them.
Whether she's trying to eat the things or make friends I do not know,
but I've seen her pick them up in her mouth and carry them into her
kennel.

Short of creating a diabolical set of wooden obstacles that hang on my
iron gate, is there any household substance that might discourage a
hedgehog from visiting?


Why don't you construct a wire compound around your dog's kennel, thus
keeping the animals apart?


The hogs would not venture into a dog kennel.


No, but if the dog is fenced off the lawn, it won't be digging it up.

BAC wrote:
Why don't you construct a wire compound around your dog's kennel, thus
keeping the animals apart?

Also a consideration. Nothing short of a heavy duty metal enclosure
would keep our tank, I mean dog from bustin through.