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Old 08-08-2006, 06:01 PM posted to uk.legal,uk.local.southwest,uk.local.london,uk.local.essx,uk.rec.gardening
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I thought this one was a windup but no.... In the US, spammers can
now legally call your mobile and YOU pay for the call! What the ****
is the matter with these Yanks?

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Subject: DO NOT CALL LIST

JUST A REMINDER...8 days from today, all cell phone numbers are being
released to telemarketing companies and you will start to receive sale
calls. YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS.... To prevent this, call
the
following number from your cell phone:
888-382-1222. It is the National DO NOT CALL list. It will only take
a minute of your time.
It blocks your number for five (5) years.
HELP OTHERS BY PASSING THIS ON TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS OR GO TO:


www.donotcall.gov

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Old 08-08-2006, 06:43 PM posted to uk.legal,uk.local.southwest,uk.local.london,uk.local.essx,uk.rec.gardening
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On 8 Aug 2006 10:01:29 -0700, "Just Another Legal Fan"
wrote:

I thought this one was a windup but no.... In the US, spammers can
now legally call your mobile and YOU pay for the call! What the ****
is the matter with these Yanks?

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Subject: DO NOT CALL LIST

JUST A REMINDER...8 days from today, all cell phone numbers are being
released to telemarketing companies and you will start to receive sale
calls. YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS.... To prevent this, call
the
following number from your cell phone:
888-382-1222. It is the National DO NOT CALL list. It will only take
a minute of your time.
It blocks your number for five (5) years.
HELP OTHERS BY PASSING THIS ON TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS OR GO TO:


www.donotcall.gov


Incredible. And you cannot stop it even by calling the number
suggested. From that website's FAQ:-
"
29. If I register my number on the National Do Not Call Registry, will
it stop all telemarketing calls?

No. Placing your number on the National Do Not Call Registry will stop
most telemarketing calls, but not all. Because of limitations in the
jurisdiction of the FTC and FCC, calls from or on behalf of political
organizations, charities, and telephone surveyors would still be
permitted, as would calls from companies with which you have an
existing business relationship, or those to whom you’ve provided
express agreement in writing to receive their calls.
"

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"Just Another Legal Fan" wrote in message
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I thought this one was a windup but no.... In the US, spammers can
now legally call your mobile and YOU pay for the call! What the ****
is the matter with these Yanks?


Erm, I think you will find that it is an urban myth.


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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 18:50:18 +0100, Michael Cargill wrote:
"Just Another Legal Fan" wrote in message
ups.com...
I thought this one was a windup but no.... In the US, spammers can
now legally call your mobile and YOU pay for the call! What the ****
is the matter with these Yanks?


Erm, I think you will find that it is an urban myth.


No, it's not. US mobile owners pay to listen to telemarketing calls, just
like all other calls. Unlike the system in the UK where you pay a
different rate to call a mobile the US charge the same for mobiles and
landlines but the reciever pays to receive the call if they're using a
mobile.
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 18:50:18 +0100, "Michael Cargill"
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"Just Another Legal Fan" wrote in message
oups.com...
I thought this one was a windup but no.... In the US, spammers can
now legally call your mobile and YOU pay for the call! What the ****
is the matter with these Yanks?


Erm, I think you will find that it is an urban myth.


The web site looks official - it's a .gov site.

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Cynic wrote:

Erm, I think you will find that it is an urban myth.


The web site looks official - it's a .gov site.


It *IS* genuine! Only the Yanks could allow this.

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"Sharon O." wrote in message
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 18:50:18 +0100, Michael Cargill wrote:

Erm, I think you will find that it is an urban myth.


No, it's not. US mobile owners pay to listen to telemarketing calls, just
like all other calls. Unlike the system in the UK where you pay a
different rate to call a mobile the US charge the same for mobiles and
landlines but the reciever pays to receive the call if they're using a
mobile.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp


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"Just Another Residents Fan" wrote in message
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Cynic wrote:

Erm, I think you will find that it is an urban myth.


The web site looks official - it's a .gov site.


It *IS* genuine! Only the Yanks could allow this.


Just like most things you post Tilley, bullshit.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp

TNR


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On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 20:01:19 +0100, "TNR"
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"Just Another Residents Fan" wrote in message
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Cynic wrote:

Erm, I think you will find that it is an urban myth.

The web site looks official - it's a .gov site.


It *IS* genuine! Only the Yanks could allow this.


Just like most things you post Tilley, bullshit.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp


No, it isn't. The imminent release of a cellphone directory may be
untrue, but the existance of the "Don't Call" directory, the fact that
US mobile customers pay for incoming calls, and the government website
referred to are all true.

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Michael Cargill wrote:

"Just Another Legal Fan" wrote in message
ups.com...
I thought this one was a windup but no.... In the US, spammers can
now legally call your mobile and YOU pay for the call! What the ****
is the matter with these Yanks?


Erm, I think you will find that it is an urban myth.


It isn't quite an urban myth. In the US, you do pay to receive calls on
your cell phone.

It is illegal for telemarketers to call mobiles, but I suspect that is about
as difficult to enforce there as it is to enforce telemarketing regulations
here.


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On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 20:01:19 +0100, "TNR"
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Just like most things you post Tilley, bullshit.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp


No, it isn't. The imminent release of a cellphone directory may be
untrue, but the existance of the "Don't Call" directory, the fact that
US mobile customers pay for incoming calls, and the government website
referred to are all true.


The core of his post - that they are paying to recieve spam if they don't
sign up the scheme - is false.


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TNR wrote:

Just like most things you post Tilley, bullshit.


New Romantic my arse!!!

I got told today by someone who you have known for years
that you are just a old man who is always on the ****......

Typical !!!!

You be suprised if you ever find out who it is...

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In uk.legal on Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Michael Cargill
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"Just Another Legal Fan" wrote in message
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I thought this one was a windup but no.... In the US, spammers can
now legally call your mobile and YOU pay for the call! What the ****
is the matter with these Yanks?


Erm, I think you will find that it is an urban myth.


Sounds like it, or there'd be a massive class-action lawsuit in the
offing!
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Paul Hyett wrote:
In uk.legal on Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Michael Cargill
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"Just Another Legal Fan" wrote in message
ups.com...
I thought this one was a windup but no.... In the US, spammers can
now legally call your mobile and YOU pay for the call! What the ****
is the matter with these Yanks?


Erm, I think you will find that it is an urban myth.


Sounds like it, or there'd be a massive class-action lawsuit in the offing!

So what is the difference between that and UK receiving, for example,
unsolicited "Jokes" on their mobiles for which they have to pay?
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 07:33:50 +0100, Broadback
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Sounds like it, or there'd be a massive class-action lawsuit in the offing!


So what is the difference between that and UK receiving, for example,
unsolicited "Jokes" on their mobiles for which they have to pay?


It is only possible for that to happen if you have *asked* to receive
the "service". IOW they may not be sent unsolicited. The acceptance
is usually tacked onto the end of the conditions you agree to if
requesting a "free" ringtone, game or picture for your mobile, and so
it catched out lots of children.

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