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I have just bought vaious bird boxes and should like to put them up
around the garden.

The question is - how do you secure them to the tree trunks
because I
thought that banging a nail into the tree will kill or hurt it.

You could use a plastic tie.

Thanks. I'll try tying where I can but otherwise I'll use nails.
Are
there any nails in particular you would recommend?

I wonder if a screw would be a better bet, as you could undo it a
little as
the tree grew bigger, and when you had finished with the box it could
be
removed completely.

I haven't tried, but I imagine corrosion would make that impossible --
especially with oaks.

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"sally H" wrote in message
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I have just bought vaious bird boxes and should like to put them up around
the garden.

The question is - how do you secure them to the tree trunks because I
thought that banging a nail into the tree will kill or hurt it.

You could use a plastic tie.

Alan



Thanks. I'll try tying where I can but otherwise I'll use nails. Are there
any nails in particular you would recommend?

I've put up hundreds (well, nearly), of bird boxes as part of my work and if I have
to use a nail, then I use aluminium ones. This is the safest option in case the tree
is ever attacked by a chainsaw. They are a bit expensive, but better that than a
chainsaw operator minus some bodily parts.

HTH
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:13:30 -0000, "Liz" wrote:


"sally H" wrote in message
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"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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"sally H" wrote in message
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I have just bought vaious bird boxes and should like to put them up around
the garden.

The question is - how do you secure them to the tree trunks because I
thought that banging a nail into the tree will kill or hurt it.

You could use a plastic tie.

Alan



Thanks. I'll try tying where I can but otherwise I'll use nails. Are there
any nails in particular you would recommend?

I've put up hundreds (well, nearly), of bird boxes as part of my work and if I
have
to use a nail, then I use aluminium ones. This is the safest option in case the
tree
is ever attacked by a chainsaw. They are a bit expensive, but better that than a
chainsaw operator minus some bodily parts.

Ah good, forget about nails. What's the best place to position a bird box?

Put them facing east or north-east - even to south east if it has shade. Put boxes
where they are going to be sheltered from the sun, wind, and rain. If the box faces
west or south the young may get "cooked" on a hot, sunny day.
Don't put them too high - a common mistake as you have to be able to reach them
safely in the late winter/early spring to clean them out to prevent parasite
build-up. However, put them high enough to keep them safe from cats.
Don't put them near bird feeders.
Don't put them where there is a lot of human disturbance.
If wooden, don't treat them with nasty wood preservatives.
Try to have a slight forward tilt on them so the wind/rain doesn't go straight in the
hole.
Put the box on a tree which has a nearby branch/twigs for the newly fledged young to
hop on to.
If you have problens with tree rats (Grey Squirrels) and/or Great Spotted Woodpeckers
which will break into bird boxes then go for "woodcrete" type boxes such as Schwegler
boxes.
.......I could go on :-)

HTH
Liz






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On 14/1/07 22:59, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

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Thanks Liz!

Could you be kind enough to snip your posts to point, Martin? Many thanks.

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On 15/1/07 10:57, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:51:08 +0000, Sacha wrote:

Sacha, you should stop using @privacy.net, I think it has changed hands.

I don't understand you. Don't a lot of people use " so as not
to use their real address on newsgroups?

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"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
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"sally H" wrote in message
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"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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"sally H" wrote in message
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I have just bought vaious bird boxes and should like to put them up
around the garden.

The question is - how do you secure them to the tree trunks
because I
thought that banging a nail into the tree will kill or hurt it.

You could use a plastic tie.

Thanks. I'll try tying where I can but otherwise I'll use nails.
Are
there any nails in particular you would recommend?

I wonder if a screw would be a better bet, as you could undo it a
little as
the tree grew bigger, and when you had finished with the box it could
be
removed completely.

I haven't tried, but I imagine corrosion would make that impossible --
especially with oaks.

I was thinking of a brass screw, which should not corrode, unless there was
acid on the tree.


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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:48:22 -0000, "Mike Lyle"
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"sally H" wrote in message
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"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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"sally H" wrote in message
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I have just bought vaious bird boxes and should like to put them up
around the garden.

The question is - how do you secure them to the tree trunks
because I
thought that banging a nail into the tree will kill or hurt it.

You could use a plastic tie.

Thanks. I'll try tying where I can but otherwise I'll use nails.
Are
there any nails in particular you would recommend?

I wonder if a screw would be a better bet, as you could undo it a
little as
the tree grew bigger, and when you had finished with the box it could
be
removed completely.

I haven't tried, but I imagine corrosion would make that impossible --
especially with oaks.

Not if the screw is the right stainless steel.

Hadn't thought of stainless steel!

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On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:10:00 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
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"sally H" wrote in message
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I have just bought vaious bird boxes and should like to put them up
around
the garden.

The question is - how do you secure them to the tree trunks because I
thought that banging a nail into the tree will kill or hurt it.

You could use a plastic tie.

or a silk tie if you want to add a touch of class.

I'm not posh enough for that!

Alan

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On 15/1/07 15:08, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:29:03 +0000, Sacha wrote:

On 15/1/07 10:57, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:51:08 +0000, Sacha wrote:

Sacha, you should stop using @privacy.net, I think it has changed hands.

I don't understand you. Don't a lot of people use " so as not
to use their real address on newsgroups?

They did/do, but if you look at www.privacy.net or get somebody to send a
message to your privacy address you will find that things aren't the same as
when you, I and others switched to privacy.net addresses.

Yup. Had a look and I see what you mean. Now I've got to remember how to
change the address in Entourage! sigh......

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South Devon
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:46:55 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
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"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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"sally H" wrote in message
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"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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"sally H" wrote in message
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I have just bought vaious bird boxes and should like to put them up
around the garden.

The question is - how do you secure them to the tree trunks
because I
thought that banging a nail into the tree will kill or hurt it.

You could use a plastic tie.

Thanks. I'll try tying where I can but otherwise I'll use nails.
Are
there any nails in particular you would recommend?

I wonder if a screw would be a better bet, as you could undo it a
little as
the tree grew bigger, and when you had finished with the box it could
be
removed completely.

I haven't tried, but I imagine corrosion would make that impossible --
especially with oaks.

I was thinking of a brass screw, which should not corrode, unless there
was
acid on the tree.

There is acid in trees. Brass is an alloy of ...

Yeh, yeh, ok wasn't thinking, again!

Alan

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On 15/1/07 17:31, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:22:05 +0000, Sacha wrote:

snip

Yup. Had a look and I see what you mean. Now I've got to remember how to
change the address in Entourage! sigh......

However if you are looking for an out of season Xmas tree, privacy.net has
some
left :-)

I can hardly wait...

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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:49:34 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
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"Martin" wrote in message
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:10:00 GMT, "Alan Holmes"

wrote:


"sally H" wrote in message
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I have just bought vaious bird boxes and should like to put them up
around
the garden.

The question is - how do you secure them to the tree trunks because I
thought that banging a nail into the tree will kill or hurt it.

You could use a plastic tie.

or a silk tie if you want to add a touch of class.

I'm not posh enough for that!

I was thinking of sally H :-)
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How did you know that I am posh?

"Mike in Spain" wrote in message
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sally H wrote:

I have just bought vaious bird boxes and should like to put them up
around
the garden.

The question is - how do you secure them to the tree trunks because I
thought that banging a nail into the tree will kill or hurt it.

thanks

Just don't use a copper nail and you will be OK, and remove them when
you finally take the box down. You may well need a couple of years
before they are occupied, but if you get them up now there is always a
chance that they will get occupants this year.

Thanks everyone.

sally H wrote:
Thanks. I'll try tying where I can but otherwise I'll use nails. Are there
any nails in particular you would recommend?

Screws.
Passivated twin-start wood screws with pozidriv or supadriv heads.
Then the birdboxes can easily be taken down for repair if they get
damaged, or moved, and nothing gets left in the tree. Put a smear of
petroleum jelly in the screwdriver recess when finished (or bark
banding grease, or similar) to keep it pristine for years. Come to
think about it, some on the thread should help if you are really
worried about disease, although I would not be, and make it easier to
drive too.