.. It is an interesting point. Are you alowed to
"weed"
weeds in your own garden if the plant is technically protected
elsewhere?

I think it's a case of keeping things in proportion: if a rare orchid
springs up in your private field, as happened to one cricket club, you
have to protect it, and would presumably want to. Otherwise, Old Mother
Common Sense rules: gardening is gardening, and weeding isn't illegal.

You are not allowed to pick, uproot or destroy any wild plant listed in
Schedule 8 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 even if it is on your
own land! You can of course with do what you like with any other wild plant
on your land with the exception of bluebells which can't be sold.

suspicious minds writes

. It is an interesting point. Are you alowed to
"weed"
weeds in your own garden if the plant is technically protected
elsewhere?

I think it's a case of keeping things in proportion: if a rare orchid
springs up in your private field, as happened to one cricket club, you
have to protect it, and would presumably want to. Otherwise, Old Mother
Common Sense rules: gardening is gardening, and weeding isn't illegal.

You are not allowed to pick, uproot or destroy any wild plant listed in
Schedule 8 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 even if it is on your
own land! You can of course with do what you like with any other wild plant
on your land with the exception of bluebells which can't be sold.


Wow! That's the heck of a list!
http://www.naturenet.net/law/sched8.html
What's the position with things like pennyroyal which are commercially
available and that you may have planted in the first place?
--
Kay

"K" wrote in message
...
[...]
Wow! That's the heck of a list!
http://www.naturenet.net/law/sched8.html
What's the position with things like pennyroyal which are commercially
available and that you may have planted in the first place?

That takes me back. I was thrilled to discover pennyroyal flourishing
unobtrusively, and wondered how on earth, etc. . . Until I remembered, a
year later, that I'd bought some and planted it the year before. It's
good to remember that I've _always_ been demented, and that I haven't
really got any worse of recent years.

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You are not allowed to pick, uproot or destroy any wild plant listed in
Schedule 8 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 even if it is on your
own land! You can of course with do what you like with any other wild
plant
on your land with the exception of bluebells which can't be sold.


Wow! That's the heck of a list!
http://www.naturenet.net/law/sched8.html
What's the position with things like pennyroyal which are commercially
available and that you may have planted in the first place?

" "wild plant" means any plant which is or (before it was picked, uprooted
or destroyed) was growing wild and is of a kind which ordinarily grows in
Great Britain in a wild state." (Section 27 Wildlife and Countryside Act
1981 )

Therefore any that you have planted yourself would not be considered wild.

suspicious minds writes

You are not allowed to pick, uproot or destroy any wild plant listed in
Schedule 8 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 even if it is on your
own land! You can of course with do what you like with any other wild
plant
on your land with the exception of bluebells which can't be sold.


Wow! That's the heck of a list!
http://www.naturenet.net/law/sched8.html
What's the position with things like pennyroyal which are commercially
available and that you may have planted in the first place?

" "wild plant" means any plant which is or (before it was picked, uprooted
or destroyed) was growing wild and is of a kind which ordinarily grows in
Great Britain in a wild state." (Section 27 Wildlife and Countryside Act
1981 )

Therefore any that you have planted yourself would not be considered wild.

Yes of course. I had my brain switched off when i wrote that.

And things on Schedule 8 are sufficiently rare that they would be
unlikely to be growing wild in a garden, so you'd have no difficulty
demonstrating you'd planted them yourself.


--
Kay

"K" wrote in message
...
suspicious minds writes

You are not allowed to pick, uproot or destroy any wild plant listed in
Schedule 8 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 even if it is on
your
own land! You can of course with do what you like with any other wild
plant
on your land with the exception of bluebells which can't be sold.


Wow! That's the heck of a list!
http://www.naturenet.net/law/sched8.html
What's the position with things like pennyroyal which are commercially
available and that you may have planted in the first place?

" "wild plant" means any plant which is or (before it was picked, uprooted
or destroyed) was growing wild and is of a kind which ordinarily grows in
Great Britain in a wild state." (Section 27 Wildlife and Countryside Act
1981 )

Therefore any that you have planted yourself would not be considered wild.

Yes of course. I had my brain switched off when i wrote that.

And things on Schedule 8 are sufficiently rare that they would be unlikely
to be growing wild in a garden, so you'd have no difficulty demonstrating
you'd planted them yourself.


You might have a problem explaining where you got them from though.

Mike (the muddy one)

"Muddymike" wrote in message
om...

"K" wrote in message
...
suspicious minds writes

You are not allowed to pick, uproot or destroy any wild plant listed
in
Schedule 8 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 even if it is on
your
own land! You can of course with do what you like with any other wild
plant
on your land with the exception of bluebells which can't be sold.


Wow! That's the heck of a list!
http://www.naturenet.net/law/sched8.html
What's the position with things like pennyroyal which are commercially
available and that you may have planted in the first place?

" "wild plant" means any plant which is or (before it was picked,
uprooted
or destroyed) was growing wild and is of a kind which ordinarily grows in
Great Britain in a wild state." (Section 27 Wildlife and Countryside Act
1981 )

Therefore any that you have planted yourself would not be considered
wild.

Yes of course. I had my brain switched off when i wrote that.

And things on Schedule 8 are sufficiently rare that they would be
unlikely to be growing wild in a garden, so you'd have no difficulty
demonstrating you'd planted them yourself.


You might have a problem explaining where you got them from though.


You only have to prove that they are not wild if you wanted to sell them or
any part of them etc

Muddymike writes

"K" wrote in message
...
suspicious minds writes

You are not allowed to pick, uproot or destroy any wild plant listed in
Schedule 8 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 even if it is on
your
own land! You can of course with do what you like with any other wild
plant
on your land with the exception of bluebells which can't be sold.


Wow! That's the heck of a list!
http://www.naturenet.net/law/sched8.html
What's the position with things like pennyroyal which are commercially
available and that you may have planted in the first place?

" "wild plant" means any plant which is or (before it was picked, uprooted
or destroyed) was growing wild and is of a kind which ordinarily grows in
Great Britain in a wild state." (Section 27 Wildlife and Countryside Act
1981 )

Therefore any that you have planted yourself would not be considered wild.

Yes of course. I had my brain switched off when i wrote that.

And things on Schedule 8 are sufficiently rare that they would be unlikely
to be growing wild in a garden, so you'd have no difficulty demonstrating
you'd planted them yourself.


You might have a problem explaining where you got them from though.

Not if they're commercially available, like pennyroyal
--
Kay

suspicious minds writes

"Muddymike" wrote in message
news:armdnepmGeMxJKzbnZ2dnUVZ8sylnZ2d@brightview. com...

"K" wrote in message
...
suspicious minds writes

You are not allowed to pick, uproot or destroy any wild plant listed
in
Schedule 8 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 even if it is on
your
own land! You can of course with do what you like with any other wild
plant
on your land with the exception of bluebells which can't be sold.


Wow! That's the heck of a list!
http://www.naturenet.net/law/sched8.html
What's the position with things like pennyroyal which are commercially
available and that you may have planted in the first place?

" "wild plant" means any plant which is or (before it was picked,
uprooted
or destroyed) was growing wild and is of a kind which ordinarily grows in
Great Britain in a wild state." (Section 27 Wildlife and Countryside Act
1981 )

Therefore any that you have planted yourself would not be considered
wild.

Yes of course. I had my brain switched off when i wrote that.

And things on Schedule 8 are sufficiently rare that they would be
unlikely to be growing wild in a garden, so you'd have no difficulty
demonstrating you'd planted them yourself.


You might have a problem explaining where you got them from though.


You only have to prove that they are not wild if you wanted to sell them or
any part of them etc

Schedule 8, which is what we were talking about, relates to destruction,
uprooting etc, whether or not you intend to sell them.


--
Kay

In article , "Des Higgins"
wrote:
It is an interesting point. Are you alowed to "weed"
weeds in your own garden if the plant is technically protected elsewhere?


Well, see "cowslips" in another thread. I transplant mine to help save them,
and have given some plants to friends. If any of you are intereeted in
seeds, email me.

Thanks to all of you who responded to my original posting re. wild garlic.

My wife and I had an excellent omelette with chopped up garlic leaves. Also
I have dried some for future use. I found the stalks are quite succulent,
too. This is the wild garlic with longish leaves with a shape like an
elongated ellipse that is pointed. No time to look up the correct name.

John N.

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In article , "suspicious minds"
wrote:
You are not allowed to pick, uproot or destroy any wild plant listed in
Schedule 8 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 even if it is on your
own land! You can of course with do what you like with any other wild
plant
on your land with the exception of bluebells which can't be sold.

Pleeees ! Where can I find said schedule ?

Most of us are now criminalised, often without even knowing it.
But this appalling government shouldn't be too surprised, since it seems
bent on outlawing conscience in some matters !! ;-((

Conscience and commonsense are very good partners in a healthy society.

John N.

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In article , "suspicious minds"
wrote:
You only have to prove that they are not wild if you wanted to sell them
or

any part of them etc

It used to be that you were innocent until proved guilty. The reverse seems
to be increasingly the case. How on earth can you prove that particular
picked stems are not wild, if they are identical to the wild, without
considerable effort and, perhaps, expense ?

Suppose I were to gather some seed from the wild, and replant it in my
garden ? Is that an offence, even when. spreading it around, will increase
its chance of survival ?

I can see that this is another item that Blair's thought police will require
when you try to sell your house (and garden) !

John N.

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In article , K
wrote:
And things on Schedule 8 are sufficiently rare that they would be
unlikely to be growing wild in a garden, so you'd have no difficulty
demonstrating you'd planted them yourself.

OK. Well that my answer my earlier rant ! %-|

John N.

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John Nolan writes
In article , "suspicious minds"
wrote:
You only have to prove that they are not wild if you wanted to sell them
or

any part of them etc

It used to be that you were innocent until proved guilty. The reverse seems
to be increasingly the case. How on earth can you prove that particular
picked stems are not wild, if they are identical to the wild, without
considerable effort and, perhaps, expense ?

Suppose I were to gather some seed from the wild, and replant it in my
garden ?


Is that an offence, even when. spreading it around, will increase
its chance of survival ?

Except for a few plants, which you'd be unlikely to come across, there's
no restriction on gathering seeds. It's uprooting the plants that you're
not allowed to do.

I can see that this is another item that Blair's thought police will require
when you try to sell your house (and garden) !

Unlikely. Most of the schedule 8 plants are things that would only be of
interest to a botanist. The ones that are commercially available are
widely so, and the chances of finding them growing wild in a garden
setting is remote (if it were otherwise, they wouldn't be on Schedule
8).
--
Kay

John Nolan writes
In article , "suspicious minds"
wrote:
You are not allowed to pick, uproot or destroy any wild plant listed in
Schedule 8 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 even if it is on your
own land! You can of course with do what you like with any other wild
plant
on your land with the exception of bluebells which can't be sold.

Pleeees ! Where can I find said schedule ?

I posted a link to it yesterday or the day before.

Most of us are now criminalised, often without even knowing it.
But this appalling government shouldn't be too surprised, since it seems
bent on outlawing conscience in some matters !! ;-((

This is Schedule 8 to the Wildlife Act 1981. It may feel as if the
present government have been in power 26 years, but they haven't. ;-)

Conscience and commonsense are very good partners in a healthy society.

Our society is so large that we cannot take either conscience or
commonsense for granted. It only takes a few people who are ruled by
greed, and the idea that it is clever to take advantage, to make life
unpleasant for the rest of us.
--
Kay