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John Nolan writes

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I can see that this is another item that Blair's thought police will

require
when you try to sell your house (and garden) !

Unlikely. Most of the schedule 8 plants are things that would only be

of
interest to a botanist. The ones that are commercially available are
widely so, and the chances of finding them growing wild in a garden
setting is remote (if it were otherwise, they wouldn't be on Schedule
8).


But he gets full marks for a skilful and quite irrelevant hybridisation
of paranoia and party politics!

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In article , "Des Higgins"
wrote:
It is an interesting point. Are you alowed to "weed"
weeds in your own garden if the plant is technically protected elsewhere?


Well, see "cowslips" in another thread. I transplant mine to help save
them,
and have given some plants to friends. If any of you are intereeted in
seeds, email me.

Thanks to all of you who responded to my original posting re. wild garlic.

My wife and I had an excellent omelette with chopped up garlic leaves.
Also
I have dried some for future use. I found the stalks are quite succulent,
too. This is the wild garlic with longish leaves with a shape like an
elongated ellipse that is pointed. No time to look up the correct name.


That one is Allium ursinum or Ramsoms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramsons
says it gets it name cos bears like them so watch out.
Wild garlic is fine as a name though and easier to remember :-)


The one with bright white flowers and triangular stems is Allium triquetrum
or 3 cornered leek (or something like that).
It is pretty but invasive and not native (at least not here in Irl).

Des



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In article ,
"Des Higgins" wrote:

"John Nolan" wrote in message
.uk...
In article , "Des Higgins"
wrote:
It is an interesting point. Are you alowed to "weed"
weeds in your own garden if the plant is technically protected elsewhere?


Well, see "cowslips" in another thread. I transplant mine to help save
them,
and have given some plants to friends. If any of you are intereeted in
seeds, email me.

Thanks to all of you who responded to my original posting re. wild garlic.

My wife and I had an excellent omelette with chopped up garlic leaves.
Also
I have dried some for future use. I found the stalks are quite succulent,
too. This is the wild garlic with longish leaves with a shape like an
elongated ellipse that is pointed. No time to look up the correct name.


That one is Allium ursinum or Ramsoms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramsons
says it gets it name cos bears like them so watch out.
Wild garlic is fine as a name though and easier to remember :-)


The one with bright white flowers and triangular stems is Allium triquetrum
or 3 cornered leek (or something like that).
It is pretty but invasive and not native (at least not here in Irl).



Allium triquetrum in Co. Cork; R. A. Phillips Irish Naturalist V (1896)
167.

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"John McMillan" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Des Higgins" wrote:

"John Nolan" wrote in message
.uk...
In article , "Des Higgins"
wrote:
It is an interesting point. Are you alowed to "weed"
weeds in your own garden if the plant is technically protected
elsewhere?


Well, see "cowslips" in another thread. I transplant mine to help save
them,
and have given some plants to friends. If any of you are intereeted in
seeds, email me.

Thanks to all of you who responded to my original posting re. wild
garlic.

My wife and I had an excellent omelette with chopped up garlic leaves.
Also
I have dried some for future use. I found the stalks are quite
succulent,
too. This is the wild garlic with longish leaves with a shape like an
elongated ellipse that is pointed. No time to look up the correct name.


That one is Allium ursinum or Ramsoms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramsons
says it gets it name cos bears like them so watch out.
Wild garlic is fine as a name though and easier to remember :-)


The one with bright white flowers and triangular stems is Allium
triquetrum
or 3 cornered leek (or something like that).
It is pretty but invasive and not native (at least not here in Irl).



Allium triquetrum in Co. Cork; R. A. Phillips Irish Naturalist V (1896)
167.

isn't google wonderful....



There is no hiding anyway :-)
I lived in Cork until 4 years ago and my back garden was full of the stuff.

Des


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Des Higgins wrote:
"John McMillan" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Des Higgins" wrote:

"John Nolan" wrote in message
.uk...
In article , "Des Higgins"
wrote:
It is an interesting point. Are you alowed to "weed"
weeds in your own garden if the plant is technically protected
elsewhere?


Well, see "cowslips" in another thread. I transplant mine to help
save them,
and have given some plants to friends. If any of you are
intereeted in seeds, email me.

Thanks to all of you who responded to my original posting re. wild
garlic.

My wife and I had an excellent omelette with chopped up garlic
leaves. Also
I have dried some for future use. I found the stalks are quite
succulent,
too. This is the wild garlic with longish leaves with a shape like
an elongated ellipse that is pointed. No time to look up the
correct name.

That one is Allium ursinum or Ramsoms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramsons
says it gets it name cos bears like them so watch out.
Wild garlic is fine as a name though and easier to remember :-)


The one with bright white flowers and triangular stems is Allium
triquetrum
or 3 cornered leek (or something like that).
It is pretty but invasive and not native (at least not here in Irl).



Allium triquetrum in Co. Cork; R. A. Phillips Irish Naturalist V
(1896) 167.

isn't google wonderful....



There is no hiding anyway :-)
I lived in Cork until 4 years ago and my back garden was full of the
stuff.


And there I was on a rather exposed site in West Wales, losing it: it
seems to be very sensitive to temperature and maybe drainage. Over in
GB, Cornwall and South Devon seem to suit it well, but a few degrees
make all the difference between invasiveness and wimpishness. I'd be
interested to know in how much of Ireland it's a thug.

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In article , K
wrote:
Our society is so large that we cannot take either conscience or
commonsense for granted. It only takes a few people who are ruled by
greed, and the idea that it is clever to take advantage, to make life
unpleasant for the rest of us.


Thanks, Kay, for your useful thoughts. I apologise to all if my rants were a
bit over the top ;-(

It is, however, pleasing when one starts what turns out to be a quite
interesting thread with an international flavour %-)

It's great to see some Irish friends in this group, and the effects of
climate change will be interesting, though worrying.

We are having a a very destructive dry E. wind at present. Rather like a har
is it ? that they have in the Med. It's been going on for days, if not a
week or two.

John N.


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"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
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Des Higgins wrote:
"John McMillan" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Des Higgins" wrote:

"John Nolan" wrote in message
.uk...
In article , "Des Higgins"
wrote:
It is an interesting point. Are you alowed to "weed"
weeds in your own garden if the plant is technically protected
elsewhere?


Well, see "cowslips" in another thread. I transplant mine to help
save them,
and have given some plants to friends. If any of you are
intereeted in seeds, email me.

Thanks to all of you who responded to my original posting re. wild
garlic.

My wife and I had an excellent omelette with chopped up garlic
leaves. Also
I have dried some for future use. I found the stalks are quite
succulent,
too. This is the wild garlic with longish leaves with a shape like
an elongated ellipse that is pointed. No time to look up the
correct name.

That one is Allium ursinum or Ramsoms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramsons
says it gets it name cos bears like them so watch out.
Wild garlic is fine as a name though and easier to remember :-)


The one with bright white flowers and triangular stems is Allium
triquetrum
or 3 cornered leek (or something like that).
It is pretty but invasive and not native (at least not here in Irl).


Allium triquetrum in Co. Cork; R. A. Phillips Irish Naturalist V
(1896) 167.

isn't google wonderful....



There is no hiding anyway :-)
I lived in Cork until 4 years ago and my back garden was full of the
stuff.


And there I was on a rather exposed site in West Wales, losing it: it
seems to be very sensitive to temperature and maybe drainage. Over in
GB, Cornwall and South Devon seem to suit it well, but a few degrees
make all the difference between invasiveness and wimpishness. I'd be
interested to know in how much of Ireland it's a thug.


Definitely in Cork where it was all over my garden. Temperatures rarely get
into mid 20s in Summer and rarely below -2 in winter (centigrade) in Cork
and it rains a lot. In Dublin you see it on rocky coastal headlands where
it looks very happy and thuggish but I have not seen it much in gardens (as
a weed). Dublin is drier, and warmer in summer and colder in winter (than
Cork) but not by very much.


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Well, from all your comments, it seems that the bulbs are not the best part,
so i will not collect any of them.
But, I did chew on a stalk, and that tasted pretty good.
So, thank you for all your comments. i'll go and gather a few.

John N.
When freshly dug up, the bulblets are nice chewed (dip in boiling water for a few seconds to soften them) and you could also use one or two crushed over a nice piece of steak or even a hamburger - great way to liven up supermarket burgers!

If you've got wild garlic growing in your garden, by now (early June) the leaves and flowers should have vanished and if you dig down about 1 or 2 inches where they were, you'll find loads of the bulblets. Harvest them all, and the plant will still reappear next year.

If you don't like the flavour, offer them to the Head Chef of a local high class hotel, he'll probably jump at the chance to use them in some of his cullinery dishes. He might even offer you a free dinner or a bottle of wine.
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