Ok, the URG "Alan Holmes" claims that he isn't the "Alan J Holmes" that
trolls and sends vulgar emails to females. Let's see shall we...

Consider this first message posted by "Alan J Holmes" to
uk.rec.gardening pulled from the Google archives:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....RDDSWGTKwGSvbQ

From: (Alan J Holmes)
Subject: Have you Guessed Alan Holmes' new ID?
Date: 1998/06/17
Message-ID: #1/1
X-Deja-AN: 363520869
References:
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening


In article ,
June Hughes wrote:
In article , Alan J Holmes
writes
In article ,
Alan Gould wrote:

I'm only surprised that they put up with the bad publicity as long as
they did.

Oh dear Alan, you can do better than that!

Can he?

I'm sure he can, remember he's still recovering from withdrawal
symtoms from when he wasn't able to post!(:-)

--
Alan G4CRW, Ex FAA, RNARS and others!
Here I sit, giving the world the benefit of my words of wit and wisdom!
What an exciting life I lead!(:-)


The content's slightly irrelevant (he was replying to someone who had
reported him for trolling). What you need to note is that at that time
Alan (the same Alan that posts here) was posting from a Brunel
University account and the name and email address is the same as the
person mentioned in the uk.adverts.personals "Troll FAQ".

Which you can see he

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....e=source&hl=en

Now, if you do a callsign lookup at http://www.qrz.com you will see that
Alan J Holmes' amateur radio callsign (G4CRW) shows his address as:

G4CRW
A J HOLMES
4 CASTLE AVE, DATCHET
SLOUGH SL3 9BA
UK

So, we know that "Alan J Holmes" (the one who trolls and sends dirty
emails to random females) lives in Datchet.

Now, here's a message posted recently by "Alan Holmes" (the one who's
here in this group right now claiming he doesn't know who "Alan J
Holmes" - the one who trolls and sends dirty emails - is) to the
uk.food+drink.misc newsgroup:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....Aw2wAJAW9jm-jI

Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!proxad.net!213 .200.89.82.MISMATCH!tiscali!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.n et!news.tiscali.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news-in.ntli.net!newsrout1-win.ntli.net!ntli.net!news.highwinds-media.com!newspeer1-win.ntli.net!newsfe4-win.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
From: "Alan Holmes"
Newsgroups: uk.food+drink.misc
References:
Subject: OT Too good to be true
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 16:48:52 GMT
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They are here in Datchet, but only because some idiot who had been keeping
them decided he couldn't manage any more and released the damned things into
the open.

Fortunately most of them seem to have died off, just got my fingers crossed
in the hope they will all die.

They make a lot of noise and damage to crops.

Alan

The all important, and very telling, thing here are the words "They are
here in Datchet"!

YOU, "Alan Holmes" and "Alan J Holmes"
are one and the same person.

YOU are, "Alan Holmes" also a troll and a pervert.

On 30/8/07 17:49, in article ,
"Mary" wrote:
snip

YOU are, "Alan Holmes" also a troll and a pervert.

And you are a coward, hiding behind a false identity to slur someone. I
don't believe people like you.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:31:50 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 30/8/07 17:49, in article ,
"Mary" wrote:
snip

YOU are, "Alan Holmes" also a troll and a pervert.

And you are a coward, hiding behind a false identity to slur someone.

It's not a slur, it's the TRUTH. And sometimes the truth hurts.

I don't believe people like you.

You must be very stupid if you don't believe the evidence I've provided.
I haven't made ANY of it up, it's ALL from the Google archives and
anyone can view it.

But if you wish to support the troll, pervert and now liar that's your
choice, but watch you don't get tarred with the same brush...

On Aug 30, 6:38 pm, Anne Jackson wrote:
The message from Mary contains these words:

YOU are, "Alan Holmes" also a troll and a pervert.

Who cares? I mean who REALLY cares, apart from yourself?

ALAN!! If you're reading this - where are my 'dirty e-mails'
and how come *I* never got any?

--
AnneJ

If you don't quit, and don't cheat, and don't run home
when trouble arrives, you can only win.
~Shelley Long

Anne, nobody did, not from our Alan anyway.

Judith

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:47:18 -0000, "
wrote:

On Aug 30, 6:38 pm, Anne Jackson wrote:
The message from Mary contains these words:

YOU are, "Alan Holmes" also a troll and a pervert.

Who cares? I mean who REALLY cares, apart from yourself?

ALAN!! If you're reading this - where are my 'dirty e-mails'
and how come *I* never got any?

--
AnneJ

If you don't quit, and don't cheat, and don't run home
when trouble arrives, you can only win.
~Shelley Long

Anne, nobody did, not from our Alan anyway.

Judith

You're wrong, they have, and from 'your' Alan Holmes.

On 30/8/07 18:46, in article ,
"Mary" wrote:

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:31:50 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 30/8/07 17:49, in article ,
"Mary" wrote:
snip

YOU are, "Alan Holmes" also a troll and a pervert.

And you are a coward, hiding behind a false identity to slur someone.

It's not a slur, it's the TRUTH. And sometimes the truth hurts.

I don't believe people like you.

You must be very stupid if you don't believe the evidence I've provided.
I haven't made ANY of it up, it's ALL from the Google archives and
anyone can view it.

But if you wish to support the troll, pervert and now liar that's your
choice, but watch you don't get tarred with the same brush...

Listen to me and take this on board. What people do on THIS group affects
me. What people do on OTHER groups is nothing to do with me or this group.
Unless someone commits murder or harms a child, I am NOT INTERESTED in what
they do as consenting adults in their own time on other groups. Got it?
That's it.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:38:17 +0100, Anne Jackson
wrote:

The message from Mary contains these words:

YOU are, "Alan Holmes" also a troll and a pervert.

Who cares? I mean who REALLY cares, apart from yourself?

If you read the Google archives, you'll see for yourself that many
people care. What if he does the same to children? What if he hangs
around in chatrooms pretending to be a child?

Anyone who can send dirty emails to strangers is VERY disturbed in my
opinion.

The pervert should've been reported to the police.

On 30/8/07 19:06, in article ,
"Mary" wrote:

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:38:17 +0100, Anne Jackson
wrote:

The message from Mary contains these words:

YOU are, "Alan Holmes" also a troll and a pervert.

Who cares? I mean who REALLY cares, apart from yourself?

If you read the Google archives, you'll see for yourself that many
people care.

Nothing to do with this group. Sort it out among yourselves or shut up.

What if he does the same to children?

What if he doesn't?

What if he hangs
around in chatrooms pretending to be a child?

What if you get proof of that and then do something about it, rather than
bringing it to a group that has *nothing* to do with it? What if you hang
around in chatrooms (and newsgroups) libelling other people and get sued for
it?

Anyone who can send dirty emails to strangers is VERY disturbed in my
opinion.

If you got them, complain to his ISP. If you didn't, it's nothing to do with
you.

The pervert should've been reported to the police.


I think you should be reported to the police for harassment. If Alan does
something illegal then report him. Until then, you appear to be getting
some very weird buzz out of this yourself.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:14:23 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

What if you hang around in chatrooms (and newsgroups) libelling
other people and get sued for it?

You can only be sued for libel if it's an untruth.

I think you should be reported to the police for harassment.

Then report me to the police.

"Mary" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:14:23 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

What if you hang around in chatrooms (and newsgroups) libelling
other people and get sued for it?

You can only be sued for libel if it's an untruth.


'Truth' is a defence available if one is sued for libel.

On 30/8/07 19:21, in article ,
"Mary" wrote:

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:14:23 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

What if you hang around in chatrooms (and newsgroups) libelling
other people and get sued for it?

You can only be sued for libel if it's an untruth.

I think you should be reported to the police for harassment.

Then report me to the police.

Prat

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

please don't feed these sad trolls

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:12:17 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Prat

Does your husband know that you appear to support the actions of a known
newsgroup troll/pervert/liar?

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:47:13 +0100, "Robert \(Plymouth\)"
remove my other hobby to reply
wrote:

please don't feed these sad trolls

YOU, yourself, "Robert" must be a troll or one of Alan Holmes' many
sockpuppets if you can't (or won't) acknowledge the disturbing FACTS
I've revealed about him.

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:47:18 -0000, "
wrote:

On Aug 30, 6:38 pm, Anne Jackson wrote:
The message from Mary contains these words:

YOU are, "Alan Holmes" also a troll and a pervert.

Who cares? I mean who REALLY cares, apart from yourself?

ALAN!! If you're reading this - where are my 'dirty e-mails'
and how come *I* never got any?

--
AnneJ

If you don't quit, and don't cheat, and don't run home
when trouble arrives, you can only win.
~Shelley Long

Anne, nobody did, not from our Alan anyway.

Judith

Judith, you seem to be an intelligent person so I'm looking forward to
you supplying the evidence to back up your claim that the "Alan J
Holmes" AKA "Alan Holmes" of this group has never sent dirty,
inappropriate emails to random females.

I've supplied the evidence that he has/does, now it's your turn to prove
otherwise.

Waiting in anticipation...