When/how does a tree become a 'protected' tree - as in a tree that
you're not allowed to cut down? Does the local council or whatever
have to explicitly place a protection order on the tree or what?

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Chris Green

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writes:
| When/how does a tree become a 'protected' tree - as in a tree that
| you're not allowed to cut down? Does the local council or whatever
| have to explicitly place a protection order on the tree or what?

Yes. And the owner of the property has a chance to object.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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When/how does a tree become a 'protected' tree - as in a tree that
you're not allowed to cut down? Does the local council or whatever
have to explicitly place a protection order on the tree or what?

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Chris Green

Chris, 'all the trees within a boundary' can be protected as well!!

Bit of a nightmare which is a pain if you are involved.

Mike

Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
writes:
| When/how does a tree become a 'protected' tree - as in a tree that
| you're not allowed to cut down? Does the local council or whatever
| have to explicitly place a protection order on the tree or what?

Yes. And the owner of the property has a chance to object.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

But what starts the whole process? I don't think the council go round
peering in back gardens, and presumably no one actually wants a
preservation order

Stuart Noble wrote:
Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
writes:
| When/how does a tree become a 'protected' tree - as in a tree that
| you're not allowed to cut down? Does the local council or whatever
| have to explicitly place a protection order on the tree or what?

Yes. And the owner of the property has a chance to object.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

But what starts the whole process? I don't think the council go round
peering in back gardens, and presumably no one actually wants a
preservation order
Our trees became protected because a neighbour cut down one of his, then
someone, who does not live particularly close, asked the council to
protect the rest, which they did. To be honest once they have made a
decision objecting, seems to me, is a waste of time! Then when it dies
not only do you have the cost of having it removed but you have to
replace it with like! Of course if the council decides it wants it down,
for whatever reason, then down it comes!

Broadback wrote:
Stuart Noble wrote:
Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
writes:
| When/how does a tree become a 'protected' tree - as in a tree that
| you're not allowed to cut down? Does the local council or whatever
| have to explicitly place a protection order on the tree or what?

Yes. And the owner of the property has a chance to object.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

But what starts the whole process? I don't think the council go round
peering in back gardens, and presumably no one actually wants a
preservation order
Our trees became protected because a neighbour cut down one of his, then
someone, who does not live particularly close, asked the council to
protect the rest, which they did. To be honest once they have made a
decision objecting, seems to me, is a waste of time! Then when it dies
not only do you have the cost of having it removed but you have to
replace it with like! Of course if the council decides it wants it down,
for whatever reason, then down it comes!

Reminds me of an incident in our area when a protected tree fell on a
protected cottage. Nobody seemed to see the funny side of that

"Broadback" wrote after
Stuart Noble wrote:
Nick Maclaren wrote:
| When/how does a tree become a 'protected' tree - as in a tree that
| you're not allowed to cut down? Does the local council or whatever
| have to explicitly place a protection order on the tree or what?

Yes. And the owner of the property has a chance to object.


But what starts the whole process? I don't think the council go round
peering in back gardens, and presumably no one actually wants a
preservation order
Our trees became protected because a neighbour cut down one of his, then
someone, who does not live particularly close, asked the council to
protect the rest, which they did. To be honest once they have made a
decision objecting, seems to me, is a waste of time! Then when it dies not
only do you have the cost of having it removed but you have to replace it
with like! Of course if the council decides it wants it down, for whatever
reason, then down it comes!

Near here a whole copse of mature Oaks had preservation orders on them , the
land was sold and within a weekend all had been felled. Council didn't take
the owner to Court.. too costly...job done.
Owner then told the neighbours he would let some of his caravan owning
friends stay on the land unless they would like to buy it. Made a huge
profit in a week.. the wood.. and double the price for the land.

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Regards
Bob Hobden

In article , (Nick Maclaren) wrote:

| When/how does a tree become a 'protected' tree - as in a tree that
| you're not allowed to cut down? Does the local council or whatever
| have to explicitly place a protection order on the tree or what?

Yes. And the owner of the property has a chance to object.

If the tree is in a "Conservation Area"

- You are not allowed to cut down ANY tree willy nilly
- You must serve notice on the local authority that you want to cut the tree down
- The local authority then have 6 weeks to put a TPO on the tree if they want to

There are a number of complexities. I suggest you Google around.

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com
A useful bit of gardening software at http://www.netservs.com/garden/

In article ,
says...

In article ,
writes:
| When/how does a tree become a 'protected' tree - as in a tree that
| you're not allowed to cut down? Does the local council or whatever
| have to explicitly place a protection order on the tree or what?

Yes. And the owner of the property has a chance to object.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

If you are in a conservation area then all trees over a certain diameter
(6" Ithink) are automatically protected
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

In a case near where my parents live, the property owner applied to have some of his trees protected, and the council supplied the protection order. They were leyland cypresses. He did this just before he died, knowing that his children, and his neighbours, hated them. They were planted in a row either side of the path down to the front door, and made it increasingly impossible to walk down the path. Fortunately the council saw what had happened and lifted the orders.

A bit of an aside, however I understand that fruit trees cannot be
protected trees. Also there is a rule that they must be visible from a
public road, track whatever. I gleaned that from a programme on trees,
where they wanted the oldest oak preserved, but it was impossible to do,
because it was in the middle of a field.

Steve Harris wrote:
In article , (Nick Maclaren) wrote:

| When/how does a tree become a 'protected' tree - as in a tree that
| you're not allowed to cut down? Does the local council or whatever
| have to explicitly place a protection order on the tree or what?

Yes. And the owner of the property has a chance to object.

If the tree is in a "Conservation Area"

- You are not allowed to cut down ANY tree willy nilly

What's a tree? That was really the import of my original question,
when does a sapling become a tree? Obviously (I hope) we can clear a
two foot high oak sapling growing at the edge of our lawn but on the
other hand there must be some point at which it would become 'a tree'.

--
Chris Green

Charlie Pridham wrote:
In article ,
says...

In article ,
writes:
| When/how does a tree become a 'protected' tree - as in a tree that
| you're not allowed to cut down? Does the local council or whatever
| have to explicitly place a protection order on the tree or what?

Yes. And the owner of the property has a chance to object.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

If you are in a conservation area then all trees over a certain diameter
(6" Ithink) are automatically protected

Ah! :-) Now *that's* what I really wanted to know, thank you. (If
we decide we actually want to cut something down I'll check further on
the diameter)

--
Chris Green

In article ,
says...
Steve Harris wrote:
In article , (Nick Maclaren) wrote:

| When/how does a tree become a 'protected' tree - as in a tree that
| you're not allowed to cut down? Does the local council or whatever
| have to explicitly place a protection order on the tree or what?

Yes. And the owner of the property has a chance to object.

If the tree is in a "Conservation Area"

- You are not allowed to cut down ANY tree willy nilly

What's a tree? That was really the import of my original question,
when does a sapling become a tree? Obviously (I hope) we can clear a
two foot high oak sapling growing at the edge of our lawn but on the
other hand there must be some point at which it would become 'a tree'.


Trunk diametre about 6" in this area (I think its 15cm)
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

On 9/5/08 08:42, in article ,
"Charlie Pridham" wrote:

In article ,
says...
Steve Harris wrote:
In article , (Nick
Maclaren) wrote:

| When/how does a tree become a 'protected' tree - as in a tree that
| you're not allowed to cut down? Does the local council or whatever
| have to explicitly place a protection order on the tree or what?

Yes. And the owner of the property has a chance to object.

If the tree is in a "Conservation Area"

- You are not allowed to cut down ANY tree willy nilly

What's a tree? That was really the import of my original question,
when does a sapling become a tree? Obviously (I hope) we can clear a
two foot high oak sapling growing at the edge of our lawn but on the
other hand there must be some point at which it would become 'a tree'.


Trunk diametre about 6" in this area (I think its 15cm)

This is a helpful site:
http://www.naturenet.net/trees/tpo.htm
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'