On Aug 23, 9:43*pm, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:27:43 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France





wrote:
On Aug 23, 6:30*pm, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:41:31 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France

wrote:
On Aug 23, 12:18*pm, Martin wrote:
On 23 Aug 2008 11:14:52 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:

In article ,
Martin writes:
|
| We have fly screens. mozzies and flies. Flies breed in the wheelie bins in
| summer.

The solution is not to put food waste in them.

The flies aren't necessarily breeding in our bins.

We don't have any
problem with flies, because we chuck everything on the compost heap.
And, no, houseflies and similar don't breed on that.

One get rats instead, according to what has been posted here?

The solution is to empty the bins more often than once a fortnight, but they
knew that when they stopped doing it.
--

Martin

You are absolutely right Martin, how stupid to leave a bin for 2
weeks, in Summer????? *What about young mothers and all those
disposable nappies, two weeks of disposable in the bin, I would think
we will end up with health problems before long.

Feel sorry for us the wheelie bin pick up point for the block is on the pavement
outside our house.. The guy who drives the thing that picks them up has smashed
trees, bins and the street sign.
I feel very sorry for you Martin G

I still live in hope of getting a new car out of the council one day
--

Martin- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Have the family arrived?

Judith

"Martin" wrote in message
...

Have the family arrived?

Yes. After my son, the stone cold sober driver, was breathalysed at 09:00
as he
left the ferry!
--


One wonders why they did not breathalyse the ****ed up drivers instead.

Pete

In article ,
says...
On 23/8/08 16:34, in article
, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


"Judith in France" wrote in message
news:263a0289-8654-4aca-8f51-
You are absolutely right Martin, how stupid to leave a bin for 2
weeks, in Summer????? What about young mothers and all those
disposable nappies, two weeks of disposable in the bin, I would think
we will end up with health problems before long.

Judith


Why are people still using disposable nappies?

Mary

Presumably for the same reason we don't all still go around in horses and
traps - convenience. If you give up your car to save the planet, will a
young mother you know, give up using disposables?
Not surprisingly, as many of mothers work nowadays, they don't want to
*have* to deal with dirty nappy liners, soaking nappies in buckets, lugging
the bucket around, pouring the filthy water away down an outside drain (if
they have one), watching the nappies revolve for an hour in the washing
machine, try to get them dry on cold, wet days if they haven't a tumble
dryer, (both of which use up earth's resources too) or spending a fortune on
using electricity if they have and then draping them around the house on
radiators or airers, trying to get them fit for junior to do it all over
again. I remember those days - what jolly laughs we had.

Good grief, that sounds like a hassle. I kept my nappy bucket in the
bathroom, stuck the nappies in that, generally without any water. Used
liners so any solids went straight into the loo. Every couple of days
I'd take the bucket down two flights of stairs to the washing machine in
the garage. Wash on 40C with half a scoop of powder. Dry on the
radiators or the clothes horse, put in the airing cupboard ready for
use. Had that for three years and it felt so much easier than having to
keep buying nappies. And I always had some around - I have friends who
had to skimp on changing because they were running short of dispos and
couldn't get to the shop. I am a working mother and the nursery was
happy to use my cotton nappies too, provided I took them ready folded.

As it is, you can get biodegradable disposable nappies now
http://www.earthlets.co.uk/product/53/nappies.htm
and there is also a marvellous gadget for the bathroom which takes used
disposable nappies and twists each into its own little 'envelope' and then,
when the drum of plastic is finished, you take the whole sealed length out
and throw it away. It's not exposed to flies and there is almost zero
odour.

Those are awful. Really, really awful. Expensive, unnecessary crap. The
amount of plastic waste added to the usual bin-load is ridiculous, and
once babies are into the bigger sizes, you have to empty the thing every
day anyway. That's the report I've had from every family who's had one.

In article ,
says...

"Pete C" wrote in message
...
tpow wrote:
anyone else having problems..........

dj
Hampshire

Yes. Non recycleables in black bag, securely tied........in wheelie bin,
lid closed, in shed, door closed. When opened a few days later, full of
maggots. The latest is more worrying.........when I come home from work,
one kitchen window has 8 - 12 flies on it. I can see no reason why they
congregate there. They seem to be becoming imune to sprays, I nearly have
to drown them in the stuff! What are your problems dj?
--
Pete C
London UK

I wouldn't call it a problem, just a nuisance. In our house they're on the
large bathroom window, not more than two a day. I reckon that there's a
mouse corpse under the floor somewhere.

I wouldn't use a spray for any of several reasons but I keep a magazine near
the window and hit them. Most drop to the sill where they can be swept off,
two are still flattened on the glass but it's been a very busy time in the
last few weeks. One day they'll be cleared. Sprays make as much mess on
glass.

We use http://www.townandcountryhardware.co...t.asp?P_ID=810 -
they even look pretty!

On 29/8/08 15:17, in article ,
"Amethyst Deceiver" wrote:

In article ,
says...
On 23/8/08 16:34, in article
, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


"Judith in France" wrote in message
news:263a0289-8654-4aca-8f51-
You are absolutely right Martin, how stupid to leave a bin for 2
weeks, in Summer????? What about young mothers and all those
disposable nappies, two weeks of disposable in the bin, I would think
we will end up with health problems before long.

Judith


Why are people still using disposable nappies?

Mary

Presumably for the same reason we don't all still go around in horses and
traps - convenience. If you give up your car to save the planet, will a
young mother you know, give up using disposables?
Not surprisingly, as many of mothers work nowadays, they don't want to
*have* to deal with dirty nappy liners, soaking nappies in buckets, lugging
the bucket around, pouring the filthy water away down an outside drain (if
they have one), watching the nappies revolve for an hour in the washing
machine, try to get them dry on cold, wet days if they haven't a tumble
dryer, (both of which use up earth's resources too) or spending a fortune on
using electricity if they have and then draping them around the house on
radiators or airers, trying to get them fit for junior to do it all over
again. I remember those days - what jolly laughs we had.

Good grief, that sounds like a hassle. I kept my nappy bucket in the
bathroom, stuck the nappies in that, generally without any water. Used
liners so any solids went straight into the loo. Every couple of days
I'd take the bucket down two flights of stairs to the washing machine in
the garage. Wash on 40C with half a scoop of powder. Dry on the
radiators or the clothes horse, put in the airing cupboard ready for
use. Had that for three years and it felt so much easier than having to
keep buying nappies. And I always had some around - I have friends who
had to skimp on changing because they were running short of dispos and
couldn't get to the shop. I am a working mother and the nursery was
happy to use my cotton nappies too, provided I took them ready folded.

No reason not to have some terries handy, too, which is what all the young
mums in our family do. Stinky nappy buckets aren't everyone's idea of fun.

As it is, you can get biodegradable disposable nappies now
http://www.earthlets.co.uk/product/53/nappies.htm
and there is also a marvellous gadget for the bathroom which takes used
disposable nappies and twists each into its own little 'envelope' and then,
when the drum of plastic is finished, you take the whole sealed length out
and throw it away. It's not exposed to flies and there is almost zero
odour.

Those are awful. Really, really awful. Expensive, unnecessary crap. The
amount of plastic waste added to the usual bin-load is ridiculous, and
once babies are into the bigger sizes, you have to empty the thing every
day anyway. That's the report I've had from every family who's had one.

Oh dear - horses for courses. My stepdaughter used one for her little girl
and now my daughter and daughter in law both use them and swear by them.
Unfortunately life is full of compromises.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

"Amethyst Deceiver" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


We use http://www.townandcountryhardware.co...t.asp?P_ID=810 -
they even look pretty!

I use those in the greenhouse but I've found that the 'footprint' they leave
is very hard to get rid of. A squashed fly is easier - and cost nowt!

Mary

"Amethyst Deceiver" wrote in message
...

....

Good grief, that sounds like a hassle. I kept my nappy bucket in the
bathroom, stuck the nappies in that, generally without any water. Used
liners so any solids went straight into the loo.

For our first three children nappy liners haven't been invented and the lav
was four houses down the street. We managed though ...

Every couple of days
I'd take the bucket down two flights of stairs to the washing machine in
the garage. Wash on 40C with half a scoop of powder.

You had a washing machine?? Luxury :-) We washed by hand, using a kettle (no
hot water supply in our one-up-and-down). We'd wring them by hand and draped
them on the clothes horse. Occasionally, if I could be bothered, I hung them
on the line across the street. When we moved into this house we could hang
them in the garden. And we had piped hot water, heated by the fire-back
boiler, and a gas boiler with a dolly peg and hand wringer. Very efficient.

Oh bliss!

Dry on the
radiators or the clothes horse, put in the airing cupboard ready for
use. Had that for three years and it felt so much easier than having to
keep buying nappies. And I always had some around - I have friends who
had to skimp on changing because they were running short of dispos and
couldn't get to the shop. I am a working mother and the nursery was
happy to use my cotton nappies too, provided I took them ready folded.

Yes, there was a happy swap relationship.

As it is, you can get biodegradable disposable nappies now
http://www.earthlets.co.uk/product/53/nappies.htm
and there is also a marvellous gadget for the bathroom which takes used
disposable nappies and twists each into its own little 'envelope' and
then,
when the drum of plastic is finished, you take the whole sealed length
out
and throw it away. It's not exposed to flies and there is almost zero
odour.

Those are awful. Really, really awful. Expensive, unnecessary crap. The
amount of plastic waste added to the usual bin-load is ridiculous, and
once babies are into the bigger sizes, you have to empty the thing every
day anyway. That's the report I've had from every family who's had one.

I've never heard of them, even our youngest grandchildren don't seem to
use/have used anything like that.

I do know that our youngest grandson was fitted with disposables - and for
far longer than ours had nappies, he was over two years old when he stopped
having them imposed on him. Perhaps it was easier (but far more expensive)
than training him to use a po or lavatory. The next youngest (not the same
mother) had organic cotton nappies (which I bought) and they were washed and
hung out.

It's not a real problem is it, these days? Most people seem to have washing
machines, I had none until we were well into our fourth baby. Our parents
didn't and as for theirs ... they were lucky if they had hot water.

Somehow both parents and babies survived. OK, some didn't, but I've not
heard of any deaths which resulted from not having disposable nappies.

Mary

On 29/8/08 20:04, in article ,
"Mary Fisher" wrote:

snip

It's not a real problem is it, these days? Most people seem to have washing
machines, I had none until we were well into our fourth baby. Our parents
didn't and as for theirs ... they were lucky if they had hot water.

Somehow both parents and babies survived. OK, some didn't, but I've not
heard of any deaths which resulted from not having disposable nappies.

Mary


I don't think anyone was making any wild claims like that!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

In article ,
says...

"Amethyst Deceiver" wrote in message
...

...

Good grief, that sounds like a hassle. I kept my nappy bucket in the
bathroom, stuck the nappies in that, generally without any water. Used
liners so any solids went straight into the loo.

For our first three children nappy liners haven't been invented and the lav
was four houses down the street. We managed though ...

Every couple of days
I'd take the bucket down two flights of stairs to the washing machine in
the garage. Wash on 40C with half a scoop of powder.

You had a washing machine?? Luxury :-) We washed by hand, using a kettle (no
hot water supply in our one-up-and-down). We'd wring them by hand and draped
them on the clothes horse. Occasionally, if I could be bothered, I hung them
on the line across the street. When we moved into this house we could hang
them in the garden. And we had piped hot water, heated by the fire-back
boiler, and a gas boiler with a dolly peg and hand wringer. Very efficient.

Oh bliss!

You'd get on well with my mum! She did the same - and when people told
me I'd /have/ to get a tumble drier if I was going to have cotton
nappies I asked them how I thought their mothers and grandmothers
managed?

Dry on the
radiators or the clothes horse, put in the airing cupboard ready for
use. Had that for three years and it felt so much easier than having to
keep buying nappies. And I always had some around - I have friends who
had to skimp on changing because they were running short of dispos and
couldn't get to the shop. I am a working mother and the nursery was
happy to use my cotton nappies too, provided I took them ready folded.

Yes, there was a happy swap relationship.

As it is, you can get biodegradable disposable nappies now
http://www.earthlets.co.uk/product/53/nappies.htm
and there is also a marvellous gadget for the bathroom which takes used
disposable nappies and twists each into its own little 'envelope' and
then,
when the drum of plastic is finished, you take the whole sealed length
out
and throw it away. It's not exposed to flies and there is almost zero
odour.

Those are awful. Really, really awful. Expensive, unnecessary crap. The
amount of plastic waste added to the usual bin-load is ridiculous, and
once babies are into the bigger sizes, you have to empty the thing every
day anyway. That's the report I've had from every family who's had one.

I've never heard of them, even our youngest grandchildren don't seem to
use/have used anything like that.

I do know that our youngest grandson was fitted with disposables - and for
far longer than ours had nappies, he was over two years old when he stopped
having them imposed on him. Perhaps it was easier (but far more expensive)
than training him to use a po or lavatory. The next youngest (not the same
mother) had organic cotton nappies (which I bought) and they were washed and
hung out.

YoungBloke didn't toilet-train till he was 3, do it wasn't the cotton
nappies. He really had no idea of what was going on. But when we all
decided to get rid of day nappies he got the idea in about a week. Mum
always says we were trained at 6mo but I think she means she spent a lot
of time from then on putting us on the potty until we produced something
- which more means she was trained than we were!

"Amethyst Deceiver" wrote in message
...

....

You'd get on well with my mum! She did the same - and when people told
me I'd /have/ to get a tumble drier if I was going to have cotton
nappies I asked them how I thought their mothers and grandmothers
managed?

Good for you. But I wouldn't have expected anything less :-)

....


YoungBloke didn't toilet-train till he was 3, do it wasn't the cotton
nappies. He really had no idea of what was going on. But when we all
decided to get rid of day nappies he got the idea in about a week. Mum
always says we were trained at 6mo but I think she means she spent a lot
of time from then on putting us on the potty until we produced something
- which more means she was trained than we were!

LOL! Yes, my Godmother held out her son from birth and said it was the only
way.

She had more patience and energy than I had - and no other babies.

Mary