Good evening.


I am going to plant a hedge in the next week or two. I am undecided as to
what sort. Please could you suggest a hedge that is reasonably quick to
establish and isn't Leylandii. Beech is my default choice at the moment but
I'm throwing myself open to other ideas.

Thank you.

mark

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Good evening.


I am going to plant a hedge in the next week or two. I am undecided as to
what sort. Please could you suggest a hedge that is reasonably quick to
establish and isn't Leylandii. Beech is my default choice at the moment
but I'm throwing myself open to other ideas.


Hawthorn is quick. It's other name is quickthorn.
Beech takes ages, IME.

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I am going to plant a hedge in the next week or two. I am undecided as to
what sort. Please could you suggest a hedge that is reasonably quick to
establish and isn't Leylandii. Beech is my default choice at the moment but
I'm throwing myself open to other ideas.

Beech isn't quick...

If you want something quick, evergreen, and if you don't let it run
away, manageable, Lonicera nidia.

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On 9/9/08 19:41, in article net,
"mark" wrote:

Good evening.


I am going to plant a hedge in the next week or two. I am undecided as to
what sort. Please could you suggest a hedge that is reasonably quick to
establish and isn't Leylandii. Beech is my default choice at the moment but
I'm throwing myself open to other ideas.

Thank you.

mark

As always, where do yoy live? What is your climate? So - we could suggest
Eucalyptus if stooled, Griselinia, Escallonia, yew,


Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:41:22 +0100, mark wrote:

. Beech is my default choice at the
moment but I'm throwing myself open to other ideas.

Thuja plicata

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On 9/9/08 19:41, in article
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"mark" wrote:

Good evening.


I am going to plant a hedge in the next week or two. I am undecided as
to
what sort. Please could you suggest a hedge that is reasonably quick to
establish and isn't Leylandii. Beech is my default choice at the moment
but
I'm throwing myself open to other ideas.

Thank you.

mark

As always, where do yoy live? What is your climate? So - we could
suggest
Eucalyptus if stooled, Griselinia, Escallonia, yew,


Hi

I am in Norfolk.
Thanks for the responses so far.

mark

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On 9/9/08 19:41, in article
net,
"mark" wrote:

Good evening.


I am going to plant a hedge in the next week or two. I am undecided as
to
what sort. Please could you suggest a hedge that is reasonably quick to
establish and isn't Leylandii. Beech is my default choice at the moment
but
I'm throwing myself open to other ideas.

Thank you.

mark

As always, where do yoy live? What is your climate? So - we could
suggest
Eucalyptus if stooled, Griselinia, Escallonia, yew,


Hi

I am in Norfolk.
Thanks for the responses so far.

mark


I like yew hedges and beech hedges. The leaf colour on the latter is so
pretty and yew is so forgiving if you have to cut into it! We put a yew
hedge in about 4 years ago and it's now around 5' high.
But this might give you some ideas: http://www.hedgesdirect.com/

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Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

Derek Turner wrote:
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:41:22 +0100, mark wrote:

. Beech is my default choice at the
moment but I'm throwing myself open to other ideas.

Thuja plicata
The problem with quick growing hedges is keeping them trim. I have three
types of hedging in my garden. Hawthorn which seems to grow straggly
soon after cutting. Beech, very little copper, that is quite tidy and
keeps its leaves until Spring. Holly, which does not need cutting every
year. However it seems obvious to me that their "neatness" is inverse to
their growing speed.

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| The problem with quick growing hedges is keeping them trim. I have three
| types of hedging in my garden. Hawthorn which seems to grow straggly
| soon after cutting. Beech, very little copper, that is quite tidy and
| keeps its leaves until Spring. Holly, which does not need cutting every
| year. However it seems obvious to me that their "neatness" is inverse to
| their growing speed.

Right. Most of the traditional decorative hedging plants are chosen
for a balance between the two. The modern ones (privet and cupressus,
mainly) are chosen because they establish quickly and are a right pain
to keep under control.

Most places in Norfolk can get cold enough that it's worth avoiding
the less hardy ones. Privet turns deciduous with below about -10/-15
Celsius, but doesn't die. Yew, holly, hawthorn, beech etc. will all
take any temperatures seen in the past century. Some of the others
may well not survive a cold spell.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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I am in Norfolk.

Well, if you want to see the capabilities (culpabilities?) of Lonicera
nitida in Norfolk, have a look at:

http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/garden.htm

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I am going to plant a hedge in the next week or two. I am undecided as to
what sort. Please could you suggest a hedge that is reasonably quick to
establish and isn't Leylandii. Beech is my default choice at the moment

I planted one this time of year in 2006, made up of 2' high plants of
beech, whitethorn and hazel. The whole thing is about 3'6" high now and
quite thick. I've got a honeysuckle growing through it too.

It would be *easily* 6' high in places if I'd let the hazel have its
way: hazel is terrifically vigorous, and it retains most of its leaves
through the winter (at least: through our warm winters of the last year
or two). (The leaves are large and very tough, so don't rot down as
easily as others.) Ooh - and you get nuts!!

As another poster mentioned: the trouble with quick growing hedges is
that you have to trim them more often. In my case I don't mind: not only
do I find it pleasurable, but this particular hedge is a very small one
(10 yards long); I have others (which are massive, and not so
pleasurable).

hth
john

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It would be *easily* 6' high in places if I'd let the hazel have its
way: hazel is terrifically vigorous, and it retains most of its leaves
through the winter (at least: through our warm winters of the last year
or two). (The leaves are large and very tough, so don't rot down as
easily as others.) Ooh - and you get nuts!!

Do you? I don't - the squirrels nick them all...

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hazel is terrifically vigorous, and it retains most of its leaves
through the winter
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hth
john

I live in Caithness and have a number of hedges: Hawthorn, Hazel,
Ribes, Snowberry, Fuchsia, Rosa rugosa, Box and Curessus macrocarpa.

Of the above the Cupressus is the most vigorous, it being a parent of
the Leylandii. It requires trimming about three or four times per
season and gives off a pleasant lemon scent when trimmed or when the
wind blows. The trouble with this hedge is that you have to grow it
from seed and that takes five years or so to for it to reach head
height. Seeds available from www.chilternseeds.co.uk. This is my
favourite hedge but for personal reasons - I gathered the seed from
beside the Magellan Straits in Patagonia, so as you see it is VERY
hardy.

Rosa rugosa makes a great but slightly scruffy hedge. I thas the
advantage of pretty flowers throughout the summer and huge hips
throughout the winter. Birds feed on the hips in late winter. Fast
growing and available as hedging plants from

Fuchsia is a beautiful hedging plant but I have been unable to find it
in the nurseries and had to grow mine from cuttings. Slow but they
readily root from non-flowering tips.

Hazel makes a fine, dense hedge and is a haven for small wildlife.
Relativevly quick growing too. Can be clipped fairly tightly and
grows extra stems from ground level which thicken up the hedge.
Widely available.

Hawthorn is perhaps one of the finest of hedging plants if you want to
keep children out! Fast growing and responds well to clipping and
shaping. Widely available.

Box is slow growing but makes a fine, dense hedge over time. Can be
bought as hedging plants but easily grown from cuttings.

Ribes (flowering currant) grows like a weed in my garden. Totally
hardy but not as fast growing as some. Probably best grown from
cuttings.

Finally, Snowberry. This is a vigorous hedging plant that will form a
free standing bush several feet in height and width if left to its own
devices. Has small flowers in summer followed by white berries
throughout the winter. Birds feed on the berries in hard times. Very
easily grown from cuttings but I don't know how readily available from
nurseries etc.

Cheers,
Compo in Caithness near John O'Groats.

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Rosa rugosa makes a great but slightly scruffy hedge. I thas the
advantage of pretty flowers throughout the summer and huge hips
throughout the winter.

Oo-er, Missus!

Birds feed on the hips in late winter. Fast
growing and available as hedging plants from

Fuchsia is a beautiful hedging plant but I have been unable to find it
in the nurseries and had to grow mine from cuttings. Slow but they
readily root from non-flowering tips.

However, not all of them are hardy.

Hawthorn is perhaps one of the finest of hedging plants if you want to
keep children out! Fast growing and responds well to clipping and
shaping. Widely available.

When I was a child I used to nest under a hawthorn tree/bush/w.h.y?
Later, while a teenage brat, I made two mallets from an horizontal
branch of hawthorn, where the scions left it to climb vertically. I
still have and use them - more than fifty years later.

Ribes (flowering currant) grows like a weed in my garden. Totally
hardy but not as fast growing as some. Probably best grown from
cuttings.

Also an early-flowering shrub which will attract bees to the garden. I
grow some for just this reason, as the currants aren't worth a searches
for publishable simile tinker's cuss. /searches

Finally, Snowberry. This is a vigorous hedging plant that will form a
free standing bush several feet in height and width if left to its own
devices. Has small flowers in summer followed by white berries
throughout the winter. Birds feed on the berries in hard times. Very
easily grown from cuttings but I don't know how readily available from
nurseries etc.

Readily available from my garden...

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Birds feed on the hips in late winter. Fast
growing and available as hedging plants from

Fuchsia is a beautiful hedging plant but I have been unable to find it
in the nurseries and had to grow mine from cuttings. Slow but they
readily root from non-flowering tips.

However, not all of them are hardy.

And even the hardy ones die back to ground level in the eastern half of
the country

Hawthorn is perhaps one of the finest of hedging plants if you want to
keep children out! Fast growing and responds well to clipping and
shaping. Widely available.

But the clippings are a chore to collect, and a meance if not collected.
The thorns seem to get tougher and stronger as they dry out.


Finally, Snowberry. This is a vigorous hedging plant

.... In other words, needs trimming back fortnightly. It also suckers
vigorously and tries to take over the entire garden

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Kay