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I've grown a few lemon plants from pips. They never produce any fruit.
Even after many years. The ones that we see for sale that are already
in fruit are grafted. All you will get from pips is a plant about
three foot high with quite nice shiny leaves.

You need to wait twenty or thirty years for one to fruit if it's grown
from a pip.

I'm going to graft onto mine - which has soared to about four feet
within three years.

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Stephen Wolstenholme writes

I've grown a few lemon plants from pips. They never produce any fruit.
Even after many years. The ones that we see for sale that are already
in fruit are grafted. All you will get from pips is a plant about three
foot high with quite nice shiny leaves.

which are lemon scented so you can use them in cooking?

Yes, but I have seen it alleged that this quality disappears when the
tree starts to bear fruit.

I shall have to have a munch when the one I've ordered arrives.

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Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
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I've grown a few lemon plants from pips. They never produce any fruit.
Even after many years. The ones that we see for sale that are already
in fruit are grafted. All you will get from pips is a plant about
three foot high with quite nice shiny leaves.

You need to wait twenty or thirty years for one to fruit if it's grown
from a pip.

Perhaps I'll have a need for more than one lemon per year when I'm in my
forties or fifties & the lemon tree starts fruiting.

While we're at it... I planted a couple of Pink Lady apple seeds at the same
time as the lemon seeds - how many years/decades until they start fruiting?

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from Stephen Wolstenholme contains these
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I've grown a few lemon plants from pips. They never produce any fruit.
Even after many years. The ones that we see for sale that are already
in fruit are grafted. All you will get from pips is a plant about
three foot high with quite nice shiny leaves.

You need to wait twenty or thirty years for one to fruit if it's grown
from a pip.

Perhaps I'll have a need for more than one lemon per year when I'm in my
forties or fifties & the lemon tree starts fruiting.

I said: "You need to wait twenty or thirty years for one to fruit" - not
- "You need to wait twenty or thirty years for one fruit"

While we're at it... I planted a couple of Pink Lady apple seeds at
the same
time as the lemon seeds - how many years/decades until they start fruiting?

The chances that you will get anything like Pink Lady aspples on it are
very remote. Most apples (excepting new varieties) are grafted onto a
rootstock from fruiting wood.

The 'from fruiting wood' bit is important, as when a tree begins to
flower, the buds on that branch (usually the whole tree, but not
necessarily) will go on to bear fruit even if they are grafted on to
very young unripe stock - which is what i shall be doing to my
three-year-old lemon.

When the ordered tree arrives, I shall have two fruiting lemons from
which to take grafts/buds.

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I've grown a few lemon plants from pips. They never produce any fruit.
Even after many years. The ones that we see for sale that are already
in fruit are grafted. All you will get from pips is a plant about
three foot high with quite nice shiny leaves.

You need to wait twenty or thirty years for one to fruit if it's grown
from a pip.

Perhaps I'll have a need for more than one lemon per year when I'm in my
forties or fifties & the lemon tree starts fruiting.

I said: "You need to wait twenty or thirty years for one to fruit" - not
- "You need to wait twenty or thirty years for one fruit"

I only use approx. 1 lemon per year atm - hence my other statement. I merely
put some seeds in a seed tray - it's not a huge project to sustain a lemon
addiction.

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I've grown a few lemon plants from pips. They never produce any fruit.
Even after many years. The ones that we see for sale that are already
in fruit are grafted. All you will get from pips is a plant about
three foot high with quite nice shiny leaves.

You need to wait twenty or thirty years for one to fruit if it's grown
from a pip.

Perhaps I'll have a need for more than one lemon per year when I'm in my
forties or fifties & the lemon tree starts fruiting.

I said: "You need to wait twenty or thirty years for one to fruit" - not
- "You need to wait twenty or thirty years for one fruit"

I only use approx. 1 lemon per year atm - hence my other statement. I
merely
put some seeds in a seed tray - it's not a huge project to sustain a lemon
addiction.

You call that an addiction already?

--
Rusty
Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
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I've grown a few lemon plants from pips. They never produce any
fruit.
Even after many years. The ones that we see for sale that are
already
in fruit are grafted. All you will get from pips is a plant about
three foot high with quite nice shiny leaves.

You need to wait twenty or thirty years for one to fruit if it's
grown
from a pip.

Perhaps I'll have a need for more than one lemon per year when I'm in
my
forties or fifties & the lemon tree starts fruiting.

I said: "You need to wait twenty or thirty years for one to fruit" -
not
- "You need to wait twenty or thirty years for one fruit"

I only use approx. 1 lemon per year atm - hence my other statement. I
merely
put some seeds in a seed tray - it's not a huge project to sustain a
lemon
addiction.

You call that an addiction already?

Stop trolling & grow up

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from "Dave" contains these words:

Stop trolling & grow up

Who are you, sonny?

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On 8/3/09 14:59, in article ,
"Dave" wrote:

"Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message
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I only use approx. 1 lemon per year atm - hence my other statement. I
merely
put some seeds in a seed tray - it's not a huge project to sustain a
lemon
addiction.

You call that an addiction already?

Stop trolling & grow up

You're on the wrong tack there. Rusty is a long-time member of this group
and is certainly not a troll.
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On Mar 8, 2:59*pm, "Dave" wrote:
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I've grown a few lemon plants from pips. They never produce any
fruit.
Even after many years. The ones that we see for sale that are
already
in fruit are grafted. All you will get from pips is a plant about
three foot high with quite nice shiny leaves.

You need to wait twenty or thirty years for one to fruit if it's
grown
from a pip.

Perhaps I'll have a need for more than one lemon per year when I'm in
my
forties or fifties & the lemon tree starts fruiting.

I said: "You need to wait twenty or thirty years for one to fruit" -
not
- "You need to wait twenty or thirty years for one fruit"

I only use approx. 1 lemon per year atm - hence my other statement. I
merely
put some seeds in a seed tray - it's not a huge project to sustain a
lemon
addiction.

You call that an addiction already?

Stop trolling & grow up

Hey Dave, Rusty is our well respected poster, he is part of who we
are, urg, he doesn't and wouldn't troll. He has a sense of humour,
don't you often natter over the garden fence with your neighbours and
share a joke, a smile, I do, I wish Rusty was my neighbour.

Judith

On 8/3/09 17:00, in article
, "Judith
in France" wrote:

On Mar 8, 2:59*pm, "Dave" wrote:
"Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message
snip

You call that an addiction already?

Stop trolling & grow up

Hey Dave, Rusty is our well respected poster, he is part of who we
are, urg, he doesn't and wouldn't troll. He has a sense of humour,
don't you often natter over the garden fence with your neighbours and
share a joke, a smile, I do, I wish Rusty was my neighbour.

Judith

Well, I *did* until I read the bit about shooting rooks. We're very fond of
'our' rooks! ;-)

--
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http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
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On Mar 6, 9:59*am, "Donna UK" wrote:
Hi All

I have had a lemon plant for a year and it has been growing fine until we
havehad this cold snap. *I have it in the house close to a window on a
table and as of late it has been loosing leaves *Now I must admit that it
is not exactly warm in the house but its the warmest place I can keep it.

Any advice? *I am hoping that once the weather warms up it will start to
regrow it leaves again...

Donna

I tried at our last house to grow both oranges and lemons in a garden
room, first I had to fight the dreaded wooly aphid, which I did and
then abscision took over and one by one, I lost all leaves. I read up
as much as I could on it and asked some friends who worked at John
Innes, they said it was caused by the production of abscisis acid but
that didn't really help me. My husband wrote a paper on abscisis acid
in membranes but even he could not save my plants.

Sorry I can't be of any further help but at least now you know why it
happens and if you find out how to stop it, do let me know as I would
like a cirtus tree.

Judith

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On 8/3/09 17:00, in article
, "Judith
in France" wrote:
On Mar 8, 2:59*pm, "Dave" wrote:
"Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message
snip

You call that an addiction already?

Stop trolling & grow up

Hey Dave, Rusty is our well respected poster, he is part of who we
are, urg, he doesn't and wouldn't troll. He has a sense of humour,
don't you often natter over the garden fence with your neighbours and
share a joke, a smile, I do, I wish Rusty was my neighbour.

Judith

Well, I *did* until I read the bit about shooting rooks. We're very fond of
'our' rooks! ;-)

I'd rather do a regular limited cull of fledgelings with a good air
rifle than watch the owner missing and/or wounding scores of adult
rooks.

I like rooks too, but they have their drawbacks where farm livestock and
arable crops are concerened. They are positively good for some crops,
generally neutral for others, but can be really harmful to some
germinating seeds.

So, if I can bag a number every year and keep the rookery in equilibrium
so it doesn't provoke the farmer into an irregular spat of flying
feathers, I count that as
a) ethical
b) pie
c) ethical pie
d) not as good as sqrl pie...

--
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Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
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from Judith in France contains these words:
On Mar 6, 9:59*am, "Donna UK" wrote:
Hi All

I have had a lemon plant for a year and it has been growing fine until we
havehad this cold snap. *I have it in the house close to a window on a
table and as of late it has been loosing leaves *Now I must admit
that it
is not exactly warm in the house but its the warmest place I can keep it.

Any advice? *I am hoping that once the weather warms up it will start to
regrow it leaves again...

Donna

I tried at our last house to grow both oranges and lemons in a garden
room, first I had to fight the dreaded wooly aphid, which I did and
then abscision took over and one by one, I lost all leaves. I read up
as much as I could on it and asked some friends who worked at John
Innes, they said it was caused by the production of abscisis acid but
that didn't really help me. My husband wrote a paper on abscisis acid
in membranes but even he could not save my plants.

Sorry I can't be of any further help but at least now you know why it
happens and if you find out how to stop it, do let me know as I would
like a cirtus tree.

Perhaps I've been lucky, but quite a few of my neighbours now have
citrus trees. I have a large lemon tree growing in a 10 gallon plastic
tub, one fruiting lemon bought last week, and another ordered.

TAAAW, I've a small orange tree and several other smaller citrus fruit
trees, all treated the same, viz, planted in a gritty slightly acid
compost, I allow them to dry out before watering, they are never stood
in water.

The large lemon tree will have some budding and grafting done from donor
fruiting trees, aforementioned.

The trees will inhabit the greenhouse I'm (still) constructing...

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Rusty
Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
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On 8/3/09 23:12, in article ,
"Rusty_Hinge" wrote:

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from Sacha contains these words:
On 8/3/09 17:00, in article
, "Judith
in France" wrote:
On Mar 8, 2:59*pm, "Dave" wrote:
"Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message
snip

You call that an addiction already?

Stop trolling & grow up

Hey Dave, Rusty is our well respected poster, he is part of who we
are, urg, he doesn't and wouldn't troll. He has a sense of humour,
don't you often natter over the garden fence with your neighbours and
share a joke, a smile, I do, I wish Rusty was my neighbour.

Judith

Well, I *did* until I read the bit about shooting rooks. We're very fond of
'our' rooks! ;-)

I'd rather do a regular limited cull of fledgelings with a good air
rifle than watch the owner missing and/or wounding scores of adult
rooks.

I like rooks too, but they have their drawbacks where farm livestock and
arable crops are concerened. They are positively good for some crops,
generally neutral for others, but can be really harmful to some
germinating seeds.

So, if I can bag a number every year and keep the rookery in equilibrium
so it doesn't provoke the farmer into an irregular spat of flying
feathers, I count that as
a) ethical
b) pie
c) ethical pie
d) not as good as sqrl pie...

Or even square pi? Nobody (that I know of) shoots our rooks but I think
they've split the parliament established a new rookery a few fields and a
hill away. 3 of the trees in which they nested had to be cut down last year
and there was a lot of jostling and squabbling for the remaining nesting
space. We've had a crow scarer going off in the field next to the Nursery
for a month or more now and unwary customers are sometimes seen to take off
vertically!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials online