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Who's got squirrel-trapping experience?
Christina Websell wrote:
Aaah. Now you have to examine your conscience. There is no difference in setting a Fenn trap or killing it yourself except you excuse yourself and pretend you didn't do it if the Fenn trap gets it. We believe that if we kill something, it must be done cleanly and if edible, (ie not rats) we eat it, I shoot, but I can't guarantee a clean kill, so only David shoots live things. |
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Who's got squirrel-trapping experience?
"Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message . uk... The message from "Christina Websell" contains these words: You'd do much better to get a catch alive trap for squirrels. Fenn traps are best for rats and stoats. Plan B if all else fails but if you're not good Plan A. I think it is illegal to release trapped grey squirrels... It is, except under licence. That doesn't stop it happening, though ... But grey squirrels caught in live traps (which are all you can legally use in areas where you might encounter red squirrels, for obvious reasons) are usually despatched by letting them run into a sack and bashing them over the head, or by shooting with air rifle whilst in the trap. Some people drown them in the trap, but that is inhumane. |
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:36:27 +0000, Christina Websell wrote:
You seem to assume I am stupid. Not necessarily. Maybe just confused or misinformed. |
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:12:26 +0000, mark wrote:
Citation? The urine of all mammals is usually sterile. http://www.broadland.gov.uk/environment/1080.asp Thanks. I missed the /can/. Specifically the spirochetes responsible for Weil's disease, if and when the rat is infected. |
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wrote in message ... On 16 Mar, 18:47, "alan.holmes" wrote: Please enlighten me, you could have saved me a lot of money, I have three fenn traps. Hi Alan, Don't get excited, I think he means he's doing what I've been trying, ie using a fenn trap but building a tunnel round it with four bricks and a couple of tiles. Could you explain a bit more about your tunnel technqiue with the bin bag? You mean you're burying the trap in the earth (which I'm also doing) and then making some sort of tunnel with a bin bag? One of the points of the tunnel is to make sure other species don't go into the trap, I can't see how a bin bag would manage that, but I'm ready to try all (lawful) ideas. I'm not now sure what I have are Fenn traps, these are made of wire, a square tunnel about a couple of feet long and about 6 inches square, a door at each end which is help open with a piece of wire connected to a pad which when the tree rats walk over it shuts the doors at each end. Sits on the surface of the ground and the vermin walk into it because they have a fasination with tunnels. Alan |
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"mark" wrote in message et... "alan.holmes" wrote in message ... "Martin Pentreath" wrote in message ... I've got a Fenn MkIV trap but I'm not having much success in coaxing the little bleeders into its jaws. I've dug the trap into the earth so that its treadle plate is pretty much level with the soil and then covered the whole trap with bark chips to make it more or less invisible. I bought a metal tunnel with the trap, and I've covered the whole set up with this. But despite scattering a few peanuts around and inside the tunnel I've had no luck. They eat the nuts outside and carefully avoid the tunnel. I thought perhaps they didn't like the strange metal tunnel, so I've tried a couple of house bricks with roof tile on top - no success that way either. I don't much like the idea of poison for the sake of the squirrels or other wildlife, so plan B is an airgun, but obviously a trap would be a lot less work (and less vulnerable to my appalling marksmanship). I'm sure the traps I have are Fenn, and at first I had a lot of trouble luring the damned things into the trap. a neighbour told me they like tunnels, so I covered the thing with bits of twigs and other debris, and the following morning I noticed there was something strange about the trap, when I went to have look it had one of the vermin in it. I now cover them with a dustbin bag, put some peanuts inside on a small tin lid, and the success rate has been high. Don't give up, just keep trying, you will be successful in the end. Alan Fenn traps showing he http://www.thehuntinglife.com/html/s...fenn-trap.html Then the traps I have are not Fenn, I wonder what they are? |
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"Derek Turner" wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:18:04 +0000, Christina Websell wrote: You'd do much better to get a catch alive trap for squirrels. Fenn traps are best for rats and stoats. Plan B if all else fails but if you're not good Plan A. Who says? Fenn 4's are legal for squirrels (among other vermin). WTF do you do with a live-caught one? It's against the law to release vermin on someone else's land. Drop the live trap in the rain-barrel? A Fenn is much more humane. I really don't think you've thought this one through! It takes about 8 seconds to drown the rat, better than trying to shoot it and just injuring it so it takes hours to die! |
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message . uk... The message from "Christina Websell" contains these words: You'd do much better to get a catch alive trap for squirrels. Fenn traps are best for rats and stoats. Plan B if all else fails but if you're not good Plan A. I think it is illegal to release trapped grey squirrels... It always was, but I think the law has changed recently on this. I hope not! Alan |
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"Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message . uk... The message from "Christina Websell" contains these words: You'd do much better to get a catch alive trap for squirrels. Fenn traps are best for rats and stoats. Plan B if all else fails but if you're not good Plan A. I think it is illegal to release trapped grey squirrels... And dangerous, they have claws like razors. Alan -- Rusty Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.net... On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:39:06 -0000, Christina Websell wrote: I think it is illegal to release trapped grey squirrels... It always was, but I think the law has changed recently on this. The law hasn't changed but the tree huggers have enabled the RSPCA to have an exemption so when they rescue a tree rat they don't have to kill it, they can let it go. TBH I'm not that fussed about greys in most parts of the country but if one sticks it's head up around here it'll get said head blown off. We live in one of the few places on the UK mainland that still has a Red population. When I was a child red sqirrels were in abundance, but I haven't seen one for years. Alan -- Cheers Dave. |
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"alan.holmes" wrote in message ... "BAC" wrote in message ... snip I wonder if he would feel the same if he wanted to grow things like nuts for his table? You are what you eat, they say. So, if I ate a squirrel, would I become a squirrel? And have to cull yourself? I hope not. I don't think the saying is meant to be taken literally, see http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/y...you%20eat.html The man growing nuts for his table would probably feel the better for it, IMO. |
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"alan.holmes" wrote in message news "mark" wrote in message et... "alan.holmes" wrote in message ... "Martin Pentreath" wrote in message ... I've got a Fenn MkIV trap but I'm not having much success in coaxing the little bleeders into its jaws. I've dug the trap into the earth so that its treadle plate is pretty much level with the soil and then covered the whole trap with bark chips to make it more or less invisible. I bought a metal tunnel with the trap, and I've covered the whole set up with this. But despite scattering a few peanuts around and inside the tunnel I've had no luck. They eat the nuts outside and carefully avoid the tunnel. I thought perhaps they didn't like the strange metal tunnel, so I've tried a couple of house bricks with roof tile on top - no success that way either. I don't much like the idea of poison for the sake of the squirrels or other wildlife, so plan B is an airgun, but obviously a trap would be a lot less work (and less vulnerable to my appalling marksmanship). I'm sure the traps I have are Fenn, and at first I had a lot of trouble luring the damned things into the trap. a neighbour told me they like tunnels, so I covered the thing with bits of twigs and other debris, and the following morning I noticed there was something strange about the trap, when I went to have look it had one of the vermin in it. I now cover them with a dustbin bag, put some peanuts inside on a small tin lid, and the success rate has been high. Don't give up, just keep trying, you will be successful in the end. Alan Fenn traps showing he http://www.thehuntinglife.com/html/s...fenn-trap.html Then the traps I have are not Fenn, I wonder what they are? These are yours, aren't they? http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/pd4...UIRRELMINK.htm |
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The message
from "BAC" contains these words: But grey squirrels caught in live traps (which are all you can legally use in areas where you might encounter red squirrels, for obvious reasons) are usually despatched by letting them run into a sack and bashing them over the head, or by shooting with air rifle whilst in the trap. Some people drown them in the trap, but that is inhumane. Yes. To all of that. When I shoot something, it stays shot, as several people have been surprised to note. -- Rusty Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk |
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The message
from "alan.holmes" contains these words: I'm not now sure what I have are Fenn traps, these are made of wire, a square tunnel about a couple of feet long and about 6 inches square, a door at each end which is help open with a piece of wire connected to a pad which when the tree rats walk over it shuts the doors at each end. Sits on the surface of the ground and the vermin walk into it because they have a fasination with tunnels. Not a Fenn trap. The fenn trap is like a gin trap with flat jaws. -- Rusty Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk |
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