I've come across these hosepipe guides, which look like just what I need
in the garden as I regularly have to negotiate the hosepipe around two
90-deg corners (which are tyrolean-finished which generates more
friction and makes them all the more potentially damaging to a hose)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOSE-PIPE-GUIDE-WALL-MOUNTED-EASY-TO-INSTALL-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a7Q7c 39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50 QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem35a14d4750QQi temZ230339462992QQptZUKQ5fHomeQ5fGardenQ5fGardenEq uipmentQ5fHandToolsQ5fSMQQsalenotsupported
(ebay item 230339462992)

However, the problem is that these things are intended to be screwed
permanently to the brickwork, and where I'd need to site them, they'd be
in the way and it's an absolute dead-certainty that they would be
rapidly snapped off by a passing mower/child/whatever.

What's needed, therefore, is some form of quick-release, demountable
version of this. Considering that my Hozelock wall-mounted hose reel is
exactly that - it has a 'lift-out', wedge-shaped, interference-fitting
bracket - I'm surprised they don't follow suit with these guides.
Anyway, I've been trying to work out a simple way of adapting one of the
existing ones myself, but coming up blank. Anyone got any bright ideas?

It would need to be something that's easily demountable by hand, would
not leave a markedly protruding fitting on the wall when demounted, and
would not involve me in lots of metalwork (other than a drill, hacksaw
and file I just don't have the kit!)

Thanks
David

On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:58:30 +0100, Lobster wrote:


existing ones myself, but coming up blank. Anyone got any bright ideas?

Velcro

--
..
"Lobster" wrote in message
...
I've come across these hosepipe guides, which look like just what I need
in the garden as I regularly have to negotiate the hosepipe around two
90-deg corners (which are tyrolean-finished which generates more friction
and makes them all the more potentially damaging to a hose)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOSE-PIPE-GUIDE-WALL-MOUNTED-EASY-TO-INSTALL-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a7Q7c 39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50 QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem35a14d4750QQi temZ230339462992QQptZUKQ5fHomeQ5fGardenQ5fGardenEq uipmentQ5fHandToolsQ5fSMQQsalenotsupported
(ebay item 230339462992)

However, the problem is that these things are intended to be screwed
permanently to the brickwork, and where I'd need to site them, they'd be
in the way and it's an absolute dead-certainty that they would be rapidly
snapped off by a passing mower/child/whatever.

What's needed, therefore, is some form of quick-release, demountable
version of this. Considering that my Hozelock wall-mounted hose reel is
exactly that - it has a 'lift-out', wedge-shaped, interference-fitting
bracket - I'm surprised they don't follow suit with these guides. Anyway,
I've been trying to work out a simple way of adapting one of the existing
ones myself, but coming up blank. Anyone got any bright ideas?

It would need to be something that's easily demountable by hand, would not
leave a markedly protruding fitting on the wall when demounted, and would
not involve me in lots of metalwork (other than a drill, hacksaw and file
I just don't have the kit!)

Thanks
David

Two pieces of board, I would say 2 ft X 2ft, 3/4 inch shuttering ply would
do, fixed together at 90 degrees with the guide screwed on the corner. The
weight of the hose being pulled will hold it against the corner. No fixing
or anything.

When finished with, walk them away.

Mike

Lobster wrote:
I've come across these hosepipe guides, which look like just what I need
in the garden as I regularly have to negotiate the hosepipe around two
90-deg corners (which are tyrolean-finished which generates more
friction and makes them all the more potentially damaging to a hose)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOSE-PIPE-GUIDE-WALL-MOUNTED-EASY-TO-INSTALL-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a7Q7c 39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50 QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem35a14d4750QQi temZ230339462992QQptZUKQ5fHomeQ5fGardenQ5fGardenEq uipmentQ5fHandToolsQ5fSMQQsalenotsupported

(ebay item 230339462992)

However, the problem is that these things are intended to be screwed
permanently to the brickwork, and where I'd need to site them, they'd be
in the way and it's an absolute dead-certainty that they would be
rapidly snapped off by a passing mower/child/whatever.

What's needed, therefore, is some form of quick-release, demountable
version of this. Considering that my Hozelock wall-mounted hose reel is
exactly that - it has a 'lift-out', wedge-shaped, interference-fitting
bracket - I'm surprised they don't follow suit with these guides.
Anyway, I've been trying to work out a simple way of adapting one of the
existing ones myself, but coming up blank. Anyone got any bright ideas?

It would need to be something that's easily demountable by hand, would
not leave a markedly protruding fitting on the wall when demounted, and
would not involve me in lots of metalwork (other than a drill, hacksaw
and file I just don't have the kit!)

Thanks
David
How about two pieces of steel angle of length equal to the height of the
fitting. Screw one to the wall and the other to the guide. Use some (say
4) Rare earth magnets to hold the two steel angles together. These
magnets are very strong indeed so much so that you will have to slide
the two pieces to get them apart.
There is bound to be an ebay vendor selling magnets.

Bob

"Lobster" wrote in message
...
I've come across these hosepipe guides, which look like just what I need
in the garden as I regularly have to negotiate the hosepipe around two
90-deg corners (which are tyrolean-finished which generates more friction
and makes them all the more potentially damaging to a hose)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOSE-PIPE-GUIDE-WALL-MOUNTED-EASY-TO-INSTALL-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a7Q7c 39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50 QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem35a14d4750QQi temZ230339462992QQptZUKQ5fHomeQ5fGardenQ5fGardenEq uipmentQ5fHandToolsQ5fSMQQsalenotsupported
(ebay item 230339462992)

However, the problem is that these t
hings are intended to be screwed
permanently to the brickwork, and where I'd need to site them, they'd be
in the way and it's an absolute dead-certainty that they would be rapidly
snapped off by a passing mower/child/whatever.


An alternative would be to keep the hose away from the tyrolean surface at
the corner.

Maybe by using one of those weighted parasol bases with a broomhandle
upright at each corner. Move it out of the way when not required.

On 26 May, 12:58, Lobster wrote:
I've come across these hosepipe guides, which look like just what I need
in the garden as I regularly have to negotiate the hosepipe around two
90-deg corners (which are tyrolean-finished which generates more
friction and makes them all the more potentially damaging to a hose)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOSE-PIPE-GUIDE-WALL-MOUNTED-EASY-TO-INSTALL-NE...
(ebay item 230339462992)

However, the problem is that these things are intended to be screwed
permanently to the brickwork, and where I'd need to site them, they'd be
in the way and it's an absolute dead-certainty that they would be
rapidly snapped off by a passing mower/child/whatever.

What's needed, therefore, is some form of quick-release, demountable
version of this. *Considering that my Hozelock wall-mounted hose reel is
exactly that - it has a 'lift-out', wedge-shaped, interference-fitting
bracket - I'm surprised they don't follow suit with these guides.
Anyway, I've been trying to work out a simple way of adapting one of the
existing ones myself, but coming up blank. Anyone got any bright ideas?

It would need to be something that's easily demountable by hand, would
not leave a markedly protruding fitting on the wall when demounted, and
would not involve me in lots of metalwork (other than a drill, hacksaw
and file I just don't have the kit!)

Thanks
David

Hinge one of the "wings" to the wall, relying on the pull on the pipe
to keep the other against the other side of the corner. In fact, it
probably doesn't matter if it flaps around a bit.

Or, mount two vertically-pointing metal fingers to the wall and drop
it in.

Or, if there's a bit of garden at the corner, mount it on a stake.

Chris

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Lobster
saying something like:

It would need to be something that's easily demountable by hand, would
not leave a markedly protruding fitting on the wall when demounted, and
would not involve me in lots of metalwork (other than a drill, hacksaw
and file I just don't have the kit!)

Employ a passing urchin for a couple of hours.

--
..
"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Lobster
saying something like:

It would need to be something that's easily demountable by hand, would
not leave a markedly protruding fitting on the wall when demounted, and
would not involve me in lots of metalwork (other than a drill, hacksaw
and file I just don't have the kit!)


Two pieces of blockboard nailed as a corner with the roller guide fixed on
the apex. NO fixing to the wall.

Where's the problem?

It will be held in place by the action of the hose.

Or are you one of those who ""say"" they have kill filled me?

BIG MISTAKE. BIG BIG MISTAKE

Kind regards

Mike

Lobster wrote:
I've come across these hosepipe guides, which look like just what I
need in the garden as I regularly have to negotiate the hosepipe
around two 90-deg corners (which are tyrolean-finished which
generates more friction and makes them all the more potentially
damaging to a hose)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOSE-PIPE-GUIDE-WALL-MOUNTED-EASY-TO-INSTALL-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a7Q7c 39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50 QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem35a14d4750QQi temZ230339462992QQptZUKQ5fHomeQ5fGardenQ5fGardenEq uipmentQ5fHandToolsQ5fSMQQsalenotsupported
(ebay item 230339462992)

However, the problem is that these things are intended to be screwed
permanently to the brickwork, and where I'd need to site them, they'd
be in the way and it's an absolute dead-certainty that they would be
rapidly snapped off by a passing mower/child/whatever.

What's needed, therefore, is some form of quick-release, demountable
version of this. Considering that my Hozelock wall-mounted hose reel
is exactly that - it has a 'lift-out', wedge-shaped,
interference-fitting bracket - I'm surprised they don't follow suit
with these guides. Anyway, I've been trying to work out a simple way
of adapting one of the existing ones myself, but coming up blank.
Anyone got any bright ideas?
It would need to be something that's easily demountable by hand, would
not leave a markedly protruding fitting on the wall when demounted,
and would not involve me in lots of metalwork (other than a drill,
hacksaw and file I just don't have the kit!)

Mount the guides onto some fairly thick ply and use lift off hinges - one
half on the back of the ply, the other on the wall.

These are stainless & expensive, but I'm sure you could find cheaper MS ones
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/43866/...Hand-Pack-of-2


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

In article ,
'Mike' wrote:

Or are you one of those who ""say"" they have kill filled me?

I haven't.

BIG MISTAKE. BIG BIG MISTAKE


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Or are you one of those who ""say"" they have kill filled me?

I haven't.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Very interesting the 'footprint' left behind by those reading my postings
:-)

Bet they don't know I can see how two faced they are ;-)

Kind regards

Mike

On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:58:30 +0100, Lobster wrote:

I've come across these hosepipe guides, which look like just what I need
in the garden as I regularly have to negotiate the hosepipe around two
90-deg corners (which are tyrolean-finished which generates more friction
and makes them all the more potentially damaging to a hose)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOSE-PIPE-GUIDE-WALL-MOUNTED-EASY-TO-INSTALL-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a7Q7c 39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50 QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem35a14d4750QQi temZ230339462992QQptZUKQ5fHomeQ5fGardenQ5fGardenEq uipmentQ5fHandToolsQ5fSMQQsalenotsupported
(ebay item 230339462992)

However, the problem is that these things are intended to be screwed
permanently to the brickwork, and where I'd need to site them, they'd be
in the way and it's an absolute dead-certainty that they would be rapidly
snapped off by a passing mower/child/whatever.

What's needed, therefore, is some form of quick-release, demountable
version of this. Considering that my Hozelock wall-mounted hose reel is
exactly that - it has a 'lift-out', wedge-shaped, interference-fitting
bracket - I'm surprised they don't follow suit with these guides. Anyway,
I've been trying to work out a simple way of adapting one of the existing
ones myself, but coming up blank. Anyone got any bright ideas?

It would need to be something that's easily demountable by hand, would not
leave a markedly protruding fitting on the wall when demounted, and would
not involve me in lots of metalwork (other than a drill, hacksaw and file
I just don't have the kit!)

Thanks
David

=========================================

A little bit of preparation on the Tyrolean to accommodate two of these:

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/11423/...s/Brackets/Flu...

http://tinyurl.com/4vvj9r

Cic.
--
==========================================
Using Ubuntu Linux
Windows shown the door
==========================================

Bob Minchin wrote:
Lobster wrote:
I've come across these hosepipe guides, which look like just what I
need in the garden as I regularly have to negotiate the hosepipe
around two 90-deg corners (which are tyrolean-finished which generates
more friction and makes them all the more potentially damaging to a hose)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOSE-PIPE-GUIDE-WALL-MOUNTED-EASY-TO-INSTALL-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a7Q7c 39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50 QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem35a14d4750QQi temZ230339462992QQptZUKQ5fHomeQ5fGardenQ5fGardenEq uipmentQ5fHandToolsQ5fSMQQsalenotsupported

(ebay item 230339462992)

However, the problem is that these things are intended to be screwed
permanently to the brickwork, and where I'd need to site them, they'd
be in the way and it's an absolute dead-certainty that they would be
rapidly snapped off by a passing mower/child/whatever.

What's needed, therefore, is some form of quick-release, demountable
version of this. Considering that my Hozelock wall-mounted hose reel
is exactly that - it has a 'lift-out', wedge-shaped,
interference-fitting bracket - I'm surprised they don't follow suit
with these guides. Anyway, I've been trying to work out a simple way
of adapting one of the existing ones myself, but coming up blank.
Anyone got any bright ideas?

It would need to be something that's easily demountable by hand, would
not leave a markedly protruding fitting on the wall when demounted,
and would not involve me in lots of metalwork (other than a drill,
hacksaw and file I just don't have the kit!)

How about two pieces of steel angle of length equal to the height of the
fitting. Screw one to the wall and the other to the guide. Use some (say
4) Rare earth magnets to hold the two steel angles together. These
magnets are very strong indeed so much so that you will have to slide
the two pieces to get them apart.

Many thanks for all the inventive replies - lots of good ideas but I
think the magnet one is my favourite! I also really liked the one using
just large plates of plywood and no fixing per se: very clever: I'm sure
it would work well and the only thing putting me off a bit is the bulk
of the resulting contraptions (I actually want two of these),

There is bound to be an ebay vendor selling magnets.

Oh yes indeed: not having any experience of these things, and how
powerful they are relative to size...

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/?_nkw=neodymium+magnet&_sacat=0&_trksid=p3286.m270 .l1313&_odkw=neodymium+magnets&_osacat=0
http://tinyurl.com/qh5yv4

.... can anyone recommend one of these ebay listings as appropriate for
my application? Would, say 4 of the 2-3mm diameter ones actually work,
or would that be asking a bit much of them?

Thanks
David

Lobster wrote:
Bob Minchin wrote:
Lobster wrote:
I've come across these hosepipe guides, which look like just what I
need in the garden as I regularly have to negotiate the hosepipe
around two 90-deg corners (which are tyrolean-finished which
generates more friction and makes them all the more potentially
damaging to a hose)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOSE-PIPE-GUIDE-WALL-MOUNTED-EASY-TO-INSTALL-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a7Q7c 39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50 QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem35a14d4750QQi temZ230339462992QQptZUKQ5fHomeQ5fGardenQ5fGardenEq uipmentQ5fHandToolsQ5fSMQQsalenotsupported

(ebay item 230339462992)

However, the problem is that these things are intended to be screwed
permanently to the brickwork, and where I'd need to site them, they'd
be in the way and it's an absolute dead-certainty that they would be
rapidly snapped off by a passing mower/child/whatever.

What's needed, therefore, is some form of quick-release, demountable
version of this. Considering that my Hozelock wall-mounted hose reel
is exactly that - it has a 'lift-out', wedge-shaped,
interference-fitting bracket - I'm surprised they don't follow suit
with these guides. Anyway, I've been trying to work out a simple way
of adapting one of the existing ones myself, but coming up blank.
Anyone got any bright ideas?

It would need to be something that's easily demountable by hand,
would not leave a markedly protruding fitting on the wall when
demounted, and would not involve me in lots of metalwork (other than
a drill, hacksaw and file I just don't have the kit!)

How about two pieces of steel angle of length equal to the height of
the fitting. Screw one to the wall and the other to the guide. Use
some (say 4) Rare earth magnets to hold the two steel angles together.
These magnets are very strong indeed so much so that you will have to
slide the two pieces to get them apart.

Many thanks for all the inventive replies - lots of good ideas but I
think the magnet one is my favourite! I also really liked the one using
just large plates of plywood and no fixing per se: very clever: I'm sure
it would work well and the only thing putting me off a bit is the bulk
of the resulting contraptions (I actually want two of these),

There is bound to be an ebay vendor selling magnets.

Oh yes indeed: not having any experience of these things, and how
powerful they are relative to size...

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/?_nkw=neodymium+magnet&_sacat=0&_trksid=p3286.m270 .l1313&_odkw=neodymium+magnets&_osacat=0

http://tinyurl.com/qh5yv4

... can anyone recommend one of these ebay listings as appropriate for
my application? Would, say 4 of the 2-3mm diameter ones actually work,
or would that be asking a bit much of them?

Thanks
David
I think you will need something a little bigger than that!!
Some typical data here
http://docs-europe.electrocomponents...6b8017b5e2.pdf

Bob

Bob Minchin wrote:
Lobster wrote:
Bob Minchin wrote:
Lobster wrote:
I've come across these hosepipe guides, which look like just what I
need in the garden as I regularly have to negotiate the hosepipe
around two 90-deg corners (which are tyrolean-finished which
generates more friction and makes them all the more potentially
damaging to a hose)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOSE-PIPE-GUIDE-WALL-MOUNTED-EASY-TO-INSTALL-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a7Q7c 39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50 QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem35a14d4750QQi temZ230339462992QQptZUKQ5fHomeQ5fGardenQ5fGardenEq uipmentQ5fHandToolsQ5fSMQQsalenotsupported

(ebay item 230339462992)

However, the problem is that these things are intended to be screwed
permanently to the brickwork, and where I'd need to site them,
they'd be in the way and it's an absolute dead-certainty that they
would be rapidly snapped off by a passing mower/child/whatever.

What's needed, therefore, is some form of quick-release, demountable
version of this. Considering that my Hozelock wall-mounted hose
reel is exactly that - it has a 'lift-out', wedge-shaped,
interference-fitting bracket - I'm surprised they don't follow suit
with these guides. Anyway, I've been trying to work out a simple way
of adapting one of the existing ones myself, but coming up blank.
Anyone got any bright ideas?

It would need to be something that's easily demountable by hand,
would not leave a markedly protruding fitting on the wall when
demounted, and would not involve me in lots of metalwork (other than
a drill, hacksaw and file I just don't have the kit!)

How about two pieces of steel angle of length equal to the height of
the fitting. Screw one to the wall and the other to the guide. Use
some (say 4) Rare earth magnets to hold the two steel angles
together. These magnets are very strong indeed so much so that you
will have to slide the two pieces to get them apart.

Many thanks for all the inventive replies - lots of good ideas but I
think the magnet one is my favourite! I also really liked the one using
just large plates of plywood and no fixing per se: very clever: I'm sure
it would work well and the only thing putting me off a bit is the bulk
of the resulting contraptions (I actually want two of these),

There is bound to be an ebay vendor selling magnets.

Oh yes indeed: not having any experience of these things, and how
powerful they are relative to size...

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/?_nkw=neodymium+magnet&_sacat=0&_trksid=p3286.m270 .l1313&_odkw=neodymium+magnets&_osacat=0

http://tinyurl.com/qh5yv4

... can anyone recommend one of these ebay listings as appropriate for
my application? Would, say 4 of the 2-3mm diameter ones actually
work, or would that be asking a bit much of them?

Thanks
David
I think you will need something a little bigger than that!!
Some typical data here
http://docs-europe.electrocomponents...6b8017b5e2.pdf

Bob
Maybe something like this? http://tinyurl.com/qnjtg3
Bob