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My neighbour needs help identifying a plant. It has grown in the place where they used to have a compost heap along with some other random plants although no one in the area can seem to tell her what it is.

I have included some pictures, 01 is a picture of the flower that appears on the plant. This then dies off and is replaced by a hairy looking thing that is pictured in 02. Finally, 03 is a picture of the whole plant.

Any help would be appreciated as it seems to be driving my neighbours mad not knowing what it is!

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Sorry, the first image is the plant itself, the second is the flower and the third is the unknown object that appears after the flower has died off. Thanks again
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Sorry, the first image is the plant itself, the second is the flower and the third is the unknown object that appears after the flower has died off. Thanks again
grin
I wondered when we'd get this question for this year ;-)
If "no-one can tell her what it is" the answer is almost always Thorn apple, Datura stramonium, and that is indeed the answer in this case. Nice pics, but the way.
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I wondered when we'd get this question for this year ;-)
If "no-one can tell her what it is" the answer is almost always Thorn apple, Datura stramonium, and that is indeed the answer in this case. Nice pics, but the way.
Thank you so much! I shall go and let her know now as it's been turning into a big mystery around here
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Hi

My neighbour needs help identifying a plant. It has grown in the place
where they used to have a compost heap along with some other random
plants although no one in the area can seem to tell her what it is.

I have included some pictures, 01 is a picture of the flower that
appears on the plant. This then dies off and is replaced by a hairy
looking thing that is pictured in 02. Finally, 03 is a picture of the
whole plant.

Any help would be appreciated as it seems to be driving my neighbours
mad not knowing what it is!


Thorn apple (Datura stramonium). It is one of the more poisonous plants
out there. (If I understand correctly it's in the same range as deadly
nightshade and hemlock.)

Thanks

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My neighbour needs help identifying a plant. It has grown in the place
where they used to have a compost heap along with some other random
plants although no one in the area can seem to tell her what it is.

I have included some pictures, 01 is a picture of the flower that
appears on the plant. This then dies off and is replaced by a hairy
looking thing that is pictured in 02. Finally, 03 is a picture of the
whole plant.

Any help would be appreciated as it seems to be driving my neighbours
mad not knowing what it is!


Thorn apple (Datura stramonium). It is one of the more poisonous plants
out there. (If I understand correctly it's in the same range as deadly
nightshade and hemlock.)


Not really. It's more poisonous than deadly nightshade, but that's
not saying much. By tropical standards, it's only ordinarily
poisonous - nothing exceptional. I agree that it's very poisonous
by UK standards.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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Not really. It's more poisonous than deadly nightshade, but that's
not saying much. By tropical standards, it's only ordinarily
poisonous - nothing exceptional. I agree that it's very poisonous
by UK standards.


Speaking of poisonous plants - the mexican hat plant that I was told to warn
people about at the school summer fete in case they bought one and they had
children or pets who might eat it ... has been munched to shreds by slugs
and snails! (and maybe puppy dog tails)
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yeah this had been pretty well eaten by slugs/snails as you can tell in the pictures. i also learnt that it's supposed to be a pretty powerful hallucinogenic/narcotic depending on how you ingest it but it's not often used as the dose for those effects and the dose where you die are pretty close! it's gone now anyhow, she has a cat so as soon as the poisionous angle was mentioned it got chopped down before the seed pods could open. thanks for the info tho, it's been most helpful
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Nick Maclaren wrote:-
Not really. It's more poisonous than deadly nightshade, but that's
not saying much. By tropical standards, it's only ordinarily
poisonous - nothing exceptional. I agree that it's very poisonous
by UK standards.-

Speaking of poisonous plants - the mexican hat plant that I was told to
warn
people about at the school summer fete in case they bought one and they
had
children or pets who might eat it ... has been munched to shreds by
slugs
and snails! (and maybe puppy dog tails)


yeah this had been pretty well eaten by slugs/snails as you can tell in
the pictures. i also learnt that it's supposed to be a pretty powerful
hallucinogenic/narcotic depending on how you ingest it but it's not
often used as the dose for those effects and the dose where you die are
pretty close! it's gone now anyhow, she has a cat so as soon as the
poisionous angle was mentioned it got chopped down before the seed pods
could open. thanks for the info tho, it's been most helpful

I bet she still has lillies in her garden? The pollen from them is lethal to
cats, they die a slow death as their internal organs stop working. Just have
to get some on their fur and lick it off.
Whereas cats are rather unlikely to chew on a Datura.
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yeah this had been pretty well eaten by slugs/snails as you can tell in the pictures. i also learnt that it's supposed to be a pretty powerful hallucinogenic/narcotic depending on how you ingest it but it's not often used as the dose for those effects and the dose where you die are pretty close! it's gone now anyhow, she has a cat so as soon as the poisionous angle was mentioned it got chopped down before the seed pods could open. thanks for the info tho, it's been most helpful
there's a whole lot of things that are poisonous to cats which aren't poisonous to us, or which at least we don't worry about. Lilies, for example. And apparently sultanas.


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Thorn apple (Datura stramonium). It is one of the more poisonous plants
out there. (If I understand correctly it's in the same range as deadly
nightshade and hemlock.)


Not really. It's more poisonous than deadly nightshade, but that's
not saying much. By tropical standards, it's only ordinarily
poisonous - nothing exceptional. I agree that it's very poisonous
by UK standards.


Do you not consider Digitalis purpurea, Convallaria majalis, Conium
maculatum, and Aconitum napellus (all native to the UK) very poisonous
plants? Granted, they may not be in the same class as Ricinus and Abrus, but
not much is!

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Thorn apple (Datura stramonium). It is one of the more poisonous plants
out there. (If I understand correctly it's in the same range as deadly
nightshade and hemlock.)


Not really. It's more poisonous than deadly nightshade, but that's
not saying much. By tropical standards, it's only ordinarily
poisonous - nothing exceptional. I agree that it's very poisonous
by UK standards.


Do you not consider Digitalis purpurea, Convallaria majalis, Conium
maculatum, and Aconitum napellus (all native to the UK) very poisonous
plants? Granted, they may not be in the same class as Ricinus and Abrus, but
not much is!

--

Jeff

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Hi

My neighbour needs help identifying a plant. It has grown in the place
where they used to have a compost heap along with some other random
plants although no one in the area can seem to tell her what it is.

I have included some pictures, 01 is a picture of the flower that
appears on the plant. This then dies off and is replaced by a hairy
looking thing that is pictured in 02. Finally, 03 is a picture of the
whole plant.

Any help would be appreciated as it seems to be driving my neighbours
mad not knowing what it is!


Thorn apple (Datura stramonium). It is one of the more poisonous plants
out there. (If I understand correctly it's in the same range as deadly
nightshade and hemlock.)


There's been articles about D. stramonium in the newspapers all last week,
about someone who found one growing on their compost heap or something. It
appeared to have come in on a pot plant from a garden centre.

We probably all grow some poisonous thing or other in our gardens, be it
lilies, laburnum, nightshade, or whatever. Lots of people have Daturas of
various varieties in their gardens. I have a Hippobroma longiflora which I
have been nurturing for many years waiting for it to flower, but I treat it
with caution.

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In message , ugo82
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Hi

My neighbour needs help identifying a plant. It has grown in the place
where they used to have a compost heap along with some other random
plants although no one in the area can seem to tell her what it is.

I have included some pictures, 01 is a picture of the flower that
appears on the plant. This then dies off and is replaced by a hairy
looking thing that is pictured in 02. Finally, 03 is a picture of the
whole plant.

Any help would be appreciated as it seems to be driving my neighbours
mad not knowing what it is!


Thorn apple (Datura stramonium). It is one of the more poisonous plants
out there. (If I understand correctly it's in the same range as deadly
nightshade and hemlock.)


There's been articles about D. stramonium in the newspapers all last week,
about someone who found one growing on their compost heap or something.
It appeared to have come in on a pot plant from a garden centre.

We probably all grow some poisonous thing or other in our gardens, be it
lilies, laburnum, nightshade, or whatever. Lots of people have Daturas of
various varieties in their gardens. I have a Hippobroma longiflora which
I have been nurturing for many years waiting for it to flower, but I treat
it with caution.

Difficult to find out levels of toxic substances, but it's more closely
related to Lobelia than Nicotiana, and so liable to be less toxic than the
latter.

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Jeff

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Heh, I've never been called that before!

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