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"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2010-08-20 22:23:25 +0100, hugh ] said: In message , Christina Websell writes "hugh" ] wrote in message ... From my experience having judged at Crufts Wow! You did? Fantastic! What breeds did you judge? It is really a lifetime achievement to do that. If you see commas where there aren't any then it's not surprising you can't tell a cat from a dog. is not necessarily any endorsement for being able to recognise a dog. I can assure you that anyone who is invited to judge at Crufts knows the difference between the gait of a cat and a dog that runs across the road in front of their car. I don't understand your hostility, is it a perceived class thing? Eh? Having been involved in show dogs for over 22 years I have met all levels of people from all sorts of backgrounds who have judged at Crufts. "Class" doesn't come into it except perhaps in your mind- it's a competence thing and many who have judged at crufts have never had the privilege of going over my dogs because I had no interest in their opinion. HOW I wish the Crufts judge who lived just up the lane from us was still alive. I can imagine her remarks if she saw this sort of nonsense from someone claiming to have judged at Crufts! It's a fact that some people have seen large cats, including my husband who is not given to an over-wrought imagination or taking fright in the dark. He's more than used to walking around in the pitch dark checking the nursery so a domestic cat is hardly likely to be an object of alarm and amazement. -- My friend ( who really does know a dog when she sees one even though she has judged at Crufts!) would agree with you, Sacha. She is familiar with the gait of both dogs and cats when running and if she said it was a black cat the size of a leopard she saw, then that's what it was. I have no explanation - she never saw it again. I've never had this experience (fortunately ;-) ) Why is it that just because *we* haven't seen one ourselves, it has to be ridiculed? Tina |
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"Bill Grey" wrote in message ... "Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "Bill Grey" wrote in message ... My labrador was entered at Crufts, an I sometimes think the judges look at the wrong end of the lead! Bill Unfortunately, I have to agree that this does happen sometimes. *If* the judge is not ethical and an exhibitor will soon be a judge at another championship show where they will be entering their own dog. My friend does not do that. Neither do I. I used to judge and gave best of breed to a dog that was winning a lot and had a big fault, purely because she was the best of a bad bunch. I was horrified to find that when I entered my own dog when this person was judging some time later, I won my class and the report she sent to the dog newspapers - the dog's critique - was *identical* to the one I'd sent in for her dog, except of course she changed "her" to "him" How blatant is that to say, you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours? I was appalled. I lost any respect for her immediately. Fortunately, although it is commonly believed that the dog show scene is fixed, most judges will put the best dog first, regardless of who is at the other end of the lead. Those that do not give it a bad name. Tina Hi Tina, We seem to have had similar experiences with regard to judges. I thought Cruft's would be at least fair, but regrtettably some form of old pals act won the day. At least I got to Cruft's but even when my Lab qualified, one onlooker, who wasn't very complimentary said about the judge - " She wasn't a Labrador judge" anyway. He was of course hinting that he didn't think my dog was good enough and that a pal's dog should have qualified. No, he was not saying that at all, quite the reverse, Bill. He was saying "she is not a Labrador judge and may not know a good one when she sees one.." It's great to qualify a dog to go to Crufts but sometimes it's "many are picked but few are chosen" when you get there.. Tina |
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"®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message ... Anyway, how did this stupid thread start, it's got nothing to do with gardening and I'm bored with it. Unless you are still on dial-up, in which case you have a legitimate complaint by paying to download an OT drifted thread I suggest you ignore it. Some of us are still interested in this. |
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Christina Websell wrote: She is familiar with the gait of both dogs and cats when running and if she said it was a black cat the size of a leopard she saw, then that's what it was. I have seen an animal that I thought was a cat from its gait and, when I got closer, it was a dog - but it was about the size of an average domestic cat and looked much like an overgrown caterpillar. I doubt that there are any medium to large dogs that have been bred to that degree of ridiculousness. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2010-08-22 17:12:30 +0100, "Christina Websell" said: snip My friend ( who really does know a dog when she sees one even though she has judged at Crufts!) would agree with you, Sacha. She is familiar with the gait of both dogs and cats when running and if she said it was a black cat the size of a leopard she saw, then that's what it was. I have no explanation - she never saw it again. I've never had this experience (fortunately ;-) ) Why is it that just because *we* haven't seen one ourselves, it has to be ridiculed? Tina By those of that frame of mind we'd be ridiculed whether we saw such a creature ourselves or not. On the whole, farmers deal with life, birth and death on an almost daily basis and are not frequently given to hysterical imaginings, either. Several round here have seen big cats, so this is not a single experience 'imagined' by Ray! Iwent up there with him the next night, checked the distance and the torch beam and its colour register, if those are the right words. I tried it on several plants of different colours and it didn't bleach them out. As he isn't an unnecessarily imaginative or hysterical type, I was surprised to see how shaken he looked when he came back to the house and then he explained it all to me. It was a nasty moment but there hasn't been a repeat. We'll see if it reappears on a fine and dark night - even in the interests of wildlife research, I'm not going out at 11 on a wet dark evening. ;-) Oh, go on! It's unlikely it will be seen again anyway and even if it was it will run away like last time. Go together and look. I would (if I had someone to go with) but a cat 2 ft high sitting up I wouldn't go alone. It's not a cougar but even so..that it is biggish cat and I'd prefer someone with me if I wanted to try and see it again. It's not a lynx either. Tina |
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:00:46 +0100, Sacha wrote:
Several round here have seen big cats, so this is not a single experience 'imagined' by Ray! Iwent up there with him the next night, Not during the next day to check for tracks? Seems odd that these animals don't leave tracks, though I guess if you get a nasty shock the last thing on your mind is to go looking for tracks... Having said that I doubt any panther sized cat is likely to attack a human unless you corner or startle it. Make some noise as you move to where it was so it knows you are coming and it will be far to busy moving away in good time to become cornered. -- Cheers Dave. |
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Dave Liquorice wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:00:46 +0100, Sacha wrote: Several round here have seen big cats, so this is not a single experience 'imagined' by Ray! Iwent up there with him the next night, Not during the next day to check for tracks? Seems odd that these animals don't leave tracks, though I guess if you get a nasty shock the last thing on your mind is to go looking for tracks... It is surprisingly rare for the conditions to be right to find most animal tracks, and cats are notorious for not leaving them. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Janet writes In article 32d678f7-ea30-4130-9b69- , says... So if a giant Black Cat crosses your path does that mean more luck than with a normal black cat crossing your path? Yep; time to buy a lottery ticket :-) Janet Just a quick reply using your email Janet. Thanks for snipping all the other replies, sometimes on a long thread it is really time consuming to keep having to scroll pages of stuff i have already read to get to the bottom and the latest comments! Not too bad in the day but late at night I sometimes just skip those I can't read quickly I am assuming that some people are receiving their latest stuff at the top? Janet -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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