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Went down the lottie this afternoon and have come home with about 20 bites.
The buggers even got through a long sleeved top! Anyway, I recall a
discussion last year when an Avon product was mentioned as the best way to
keep the little sods at bay. Could someone please remind me what it was?
TIA
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hands :-{

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On 2010-09-18 23:11:42 +0100, "Kathy McIntosh"
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Went down the lottie this afternoon and have come home with about 20
bites. The buggers even got through a long sleeved top! Anyway, I recall
a discussion last year when an Avon product was mentioned as the best way
to keep the little sods at bay. Could someone please remind me what it
was?
TIA


Skin So Soft. In this country they're not allowed to advertise it as an
insect repellent, as far as I'm aware. But it is. It works, IME.


Thanks Sacha.

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On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 Sacha wrote:

Went down the lottie this afternoon and have come home with about 20
bites. The buggers even got through a long sleeved top! Anyway, I
recall a discussion last year when an Avon product was mentioned as
the best way to keep the little sods at bay. Could someone please
remind me what it was?
TIA


Skin So Soft. In this country they're not allowed to advertise it as
an insect repellent, as far as I'm aware. But it is. It works, IME.


I'll tell my wife about that. Most insect repellents just don't seem to
work for her and going out into the garden from teatime onwards is just
misery for her.

David

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On 18 Sep, 23:22, Sacha wrote:
On 2010-09-18 23:11:42 +0100, "Kathy McIntosh" said:

Went down the lottie this afternoon and have come home with about 20
bites. The buggers even got through a long sleeved top! *Anyway, I
recall a discussion last year when an Avon product was mentioned as the
best way to keep the little sods at bay. *Could someone please remind
me what it was?
TIA


Skin So Soft. *In this country they're not allowed to advertise it as
an insect repellent, as far as I'm aware. *But it is. *It works, IME.
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it's horse flies. There seems to be a plague this year. Bite through
cloths too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsefly
You might try DEET
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEET
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"Kathy McIntosh" said:

Went down the lottie this afternoon and have come home with about 20
bites. The buggers even got through a long sleeved top! Anyway, I
recall a discussion last year when an Avon product was mentioned as the
best way to keep the little sods at bay. Could someone please remind
me what it was?
TIA

Skin So Soft. In this country they're not allowed to advertise it as an
insect repellent, as far as I'm aware. But it is. It works, IME.


Thanks Sacha.


I forgot to say that apparently, it's used by lumberjacks. This produces
a delightful mental picture..! ;-)


Now that reminds me of a song. !!

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"Kathy McIntosh" wrote
Went down the lottie this afternoon and have come home with about 20
bites. The buggers even got through a long sleeved top! Anyway, I recall
a discussion last year when an Avon product was mentioned as the best way
to keep the little sods at bay. Could someone please remind me what it
was?
TIA
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Kathy, who's feeling decidedly itchy and trying very hard not to scratch
her hands :-{

A friend who works an allotment miles away was telling me down the pub last
night that he is being bitten by something that looks like a little flying
beetle, like larger flea beetle, actually draws a spot of blood and itches
like mad afterwards. Despite finding them on himself he hasn't managed to
kill one yet, swats them but they are so tough they just fly away.
We had similar on our old allotment site years ago but luckily they don't
appear to have got to our new one, yet.

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"Kathy McIntosh" wrote in message
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Went down the lottie this afternoon and have come home with about 20
bites. The buggers even got through a long sleeved top! Anyway, I recall
a discussion last year when an Avon product was mentioned as the best way
to keep the little sods at bay. Could someone please remind me what it
was?


I've had lots of bites this year and I have assumed it was mosquitoes, we
have a water tank at the bottom of the garden and I thought they were
breeding in that, so I got some vegetable oil to pour over the surface, but
as it is getting a bit late in the year I'll leave that until the spring.

Alan



TIA
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 Sacha wrote:

Went down the lottie this afternoon and have come home with about 20
bites. The buggers even got through a long sleeved top! Anyway, I
recall a discussion last year when an Avon product was mentioned as the
best way to keep the little sods at bay. Could someone please remind
me what it was?
TIA


Skin So Soft. In this country they're not allowed to advertise it as an
insect repellent, as far as I'm aware. But it is. It works, IME.


I'll tell my wife about that. Most insect repellents just don't seem to
work for her and going out into the garden from teatime onwards is just
misery for her.

David

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If she's getting them from tea time onwards and you are not just meaning
midges: I would say you should be looking out for blackfly ('Buffalo Gnat').
They are only 'supposed' to live near running water, but our garden and
allotment are made almost unusable by them around dusk. They are small, and
very quiet and have bitten through your jeans and left a huge weeping
swelling before you realise you have been bitten. (Unlike horse flies which
you can feel bite into you very hard, but in me at least, don't leave much
of a swelling.) Throughout the world they are a menace, and they are
becoming increasingly common here. I sent samples of ours to the NHM for ID
when we first started getting bitten, and they were quite pleased to have
them to help in their battle to find ways to control them. The only
effective control I have found is to come in as soon as the light begins to
fade.

(Interestingly the Wiki says the 'Blandford Fly' version was eradicated at
Blandford with Bacillus thuringiensis - which was the favoured 'organic'
control for cabbage white caterpillars until the GM companies got hold of it
and started sticking its toxin genes into everything, so that eventually
they will just breed resistance to it and the 'organic' gardener will be
defenceless...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simuliidae

S



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On 18 Sep, 23:22, Sacha wrote:
On 2010-09-18 23:11:42 +0100, "Kathy McIntosh"
said:

Went down the lottie this afternoon and have come home with about 20
bites. The buggers even got through a long sleeved top! Anyway, I
recall a discussion last year when an Avon product was mentioned as the
best way to keep the little sods at bay. Could someone please remind
me what it was?
TIA


Skin So Soft. In this country they're not allowed to advertise it as
an insect repellent, as far as I'm aware. But it is. It works, IME.
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South Devon


it's horse flies. There seems to be a plague this year. Bite through
cloths too.

They were mozzies. I know because I "interrupted" a couple mid slurp.
Also, I am *very* aware when a horse fly bites me. It doesn't survive the
encounter, and then I rapidly swell up.

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On 18 Sep, 23:11, "Kathy McIntosh" wrote:
Went down the lottie this afternoon and have come home with about 20 bites.
The buggers even got through a long sleeved top! *Anyway, I recall a
discussion last year when an Avon product was mentioned as the best way to
keep the little sods at bay. *Could someone please remind me what it was?
TIA
--
Kathy, who's feeling decidedly itchy and trying very hard not to scratch her
hands :-{


Avon Skin-So-Soft Dry Oil Body Spray, and be sure to get the GREEN
one,
as the pink one doesn't work - well, not on midges at any rate.

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"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2010-09-18 23:11:42 +0100, "Kathy McIntosh"
said:

Went down the lottie this afternoon and have come home with about 20
bites. The buggers even got through a long sleeved top! Anyway, I
recall a discussion last year when an Avon product was mentioned as the
best way to keep the little sods at bay. Could someone please remind me
what it was?
TIA


Skin So Soft. In this country they're not allowed to advertise it as an
insect repellent, as far as I'm aware. But it is. It works, IME.


Thanks Sacha.

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Apparently Skin-so- Soft is used by equestrians to save their steeds
getting troubled !

I like to use "Jungle formula" sachets -they are like wet wipes. The
sachets are easy to carry around and easy to apply. Very effective against
midges.

Bill


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"(Interestingly the Wiki says the 'Blandford Fly' version was eradicated at Blandford with Bacillus thuringiensis
Not eradicated, but greatly reduced.
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 Spamlet wrote:

Skin So Soft. In this country they're not allowed to advertise it as an
insect repellent, as far as I'm aware. But it is. It works, IME.


I'll tell my wife about that. Most insect repellents just don't seem to
work for her and going out into the garden from teatime onwards is just
misery for her.


(Interestingly the Wiki says the 'Blandford Fly' version was eradicated at
Blandford with Bacillus thuringiensis - which was the favoured 'organic'
control for cabbage white caterpillars until the GM companies got hold of it
and started sticking its toxin genes into everything, so that eventually
they will just breed resistance to it and the 'organic' gardener will be
defenceless...)


No, not eradicated. Here is what the wiki actually says:

"In the late 1980s, Dorset County Council asked the Institute for
Freshwater Ecology (now the Centre for Ecology and Hydrology), then
based in Wareham, Dorset, to investigate a means of ameliorating the
problem. They suggested using a biological insecticide, Bacillus
thuringiensis israelensis (Bti), which was sprayed into the weed beds,
resulting in the destruction of 80–90% of the Blandford fly larvae and
a corresponding reduction in the numbers of people bitten."

Not the same as "eradicate"! :-)

David

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"David Rance" wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 Spamlet wrote:

Skin So Soft. In this country they're not allowed to advertise it as an
insect repellent, as far as I'm aware. But it is. It works, IME.

I'll tell my wife about that. Most insect repellents just don't seem to
work for her and going out into the garden from teatime onwards is just
misery for her.


(Interestingly the Wiki says the 'Blandford Fly' version was eradicated at
Blandford with Bacillus thuringiensis - which was the favoured 'organic'
control for cabbage white caterpillars until the GM companies got hold of
it
and started sticking its toxin genes into everything, so that eventually
they will just breed resistance to it and the 'organic' gardener will be
defenceless...)


No, not eradicated. Here is what the wiki actually says:

"In the late 1980s, Dorset County Council asked the Institute for
Freshwater Ecology (now the Centre for Ecology and Hydrology), then based
in Wareham, Dorset, to investigate a means of ameliorating the problem.
They suggested using a biological insecticide, Bacillus thuringiensis
israelensis (Bti), which was sprayed into the weed beds, resulting in the
destruction of 80–90% of the Blandford fly larvae and a corresponding
reduction in the numbers of people bitten."

Not the same as "eradicate"! :-)

David


So it is clearly not possible to offer any information on this forum without
attracting petty nit picking. Explain in full with quotes, and one is 'on
an ego trip' and told to be 'succinct': give a 'succinct' account with a
reference, and the nit pickers fly in to print it out for you.

Much better gardening advice - and advice on just about anything in fact -
on uk.d-i-y. Where there is plenty of extended discussion and the nit
pickers are in the minority.

S



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So it is clearly not possible to offer any information on this forum without
attracting petty nit picking.


It's a newsgroup, and there are nit-pickers on almost every newsgroup.
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