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Gardeners World gone to seed
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Mike -- .................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive .................................... |
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On Apr 4, 8:50*am, "'Mike'" wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...lost-plot-BBC-... Mike -- ................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive ................................... That should read Gardeners world Site reverts to nature. It just shows that you can throw money at a Garden but without a good measure of love it is nothing other than an expensive "set". |
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"Martin" wrote in message ... On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 01:10:50 -0700 (PDT), Dave Hill wrote: That should read Gardeners world Site reverts to nature. It just shows that you can throw money at a Garden but without a good measure of love it is nothing other than an expensive "set". http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/a...-Buckland.html IMO in recent years GW peaked last year. The BBC adapted the series to reflect urg/viewers comments. The camera work is poor this year. Often what Monty is doing with his hands is not visible. All too often we see Monty's face and not what he is doing. There is too much of Monty and not enough of gardening. -- Martin I don't watch GW, but I find it hard to believe that the BBC takes any notice of what URGLERS have to say. Do they take notice of anyone? Bill |
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"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2011-04-04 11:33:27 +0100, "Bill Grey" said: "Martin" wrote in message ... On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 01:10:50 -0700 (PDT), Dave Hill wrote: That should read Gardeners world Site reverts to nature. It just shows that you can throw money at a Garden but without a good measure of love it is nothing other than an expensive "set". http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/a...-Buckland.html IMO in recent years GW peaked last year. The BBC adapted the series to reflect urg/viewers comments. The camera work is poor this year. Often what Monty is doing with his hands is not visible. All too often we see Monty's face and not what he is doing. There is too much of Monty and not enough of gardening. -- Martin I don't watch GW, but I find it hard to believe that the BBC takes any notice of what URGLERS have to say. Do they take notice of anyone? Bill Urglers (and others) were among those who complained about the way in which Chelsea was being presented a few years ago. Changes were made and very much for the better. Monty Don has responded to a post on here, so I think there can be little doubt that gardening groups are read and if vociferous enough, listened to! It's no exaggeration to say that some people here know easily as much as presenters past and present and are in a very good position to criticise helpfully. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon Good to hear this, it makes commenting usefully all the more worthwhile. Bill |
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"Sacha" wrote ... That was the very point Roy Lancaster made when we talked to him about gardening progs last year. He said that as a 'new boy' he'd been told to remember that what the customers were interested in was the plants and how to treat them, not his face! I'm afraid we've just about given up on GW. We had real hopes for an improvement in direction but it's still far too much about people and not enough about plants and gardening. There's no point in that. We'll be interested to see how then ew Alan Titchmarsh programme works out. ..................................... That's the Producers fault, they think everyone in the UK subscribes to the "cult of the celebrity" and wants to be entertained whereas I think gardeners are one of the groups that doesn't much (except when it's real experts in plants and presenting like Roy Lancaster). Plants, plants and more plants with details and instructions is what we want, not faces, in a lot of cases it's too many of those that make us enjoy the quiet solitude of gardening even more. Personally I think Monty is doing a good job, he is much more relaxed in his own garden, whereas last time I couldn't get into the programmes and stopped watching. I wonder what the "Open University" making the programmes would be like? Might then get those Latin names and more in-depth info. -- Regards Bob Hobden W.of London. UK |
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On 2011-04-04 12:01:26 +0100, Sacha said:
On 2011-04-04 11:33:27 +0100, "Bill Grey" said: "Martin" wrote in message ... On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 01:10:50 -0700 (PDT), Dave Hill wrote: That should read Gardeners world Site reverts to nature. It just shows that you can throw money at a Garden but without a good measure of love it is nothing other than an expensive "set". http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/a...-Buckland.html IMO in recent years GW peaked last year. The BBC adapted the series to reflect urg/viewers comments. The camera work is poor this year. Often what Monty is doing with his hands is not visible. All too often we see Monty's face and not what he is doing. There is too much of Monty and not enough of gardening. -- Martin I don't watch GW, but I find it hard to believe that the BBC takes any notice of what URGLERS have to say. Do they take notice of anyone? Bill Urglers (and others) were among those who complained about the way in which Chelsea was being presented a few years ago. Changes were made and very much for the better. Monty Don has responded to a post on here, so I think there can be little doubt that gardening groups are read and if vociferous enough, listened to! It's no exaggeration to say that some people here know easily as much as presenters past and present and are in a very good position to criticise helpfully. The primary focus group was the BBC's own GW forum where the suits/producers got very involved. Not surprisingly, the views expressed there were similar to those expressed here. Monty's post was on Garden Banter. |
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"'Mike'" wrote in message
... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Buckland.html Mike -- ................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive ................................... Perhaps what is really needed is for Green Acre to continue with Toby as a different gardening program. For those of us creating or aspiring to create a garden from scratch, this is far more interesting than an existing garden. |
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On 2011-04-05 22:50:48 +0100, "M" said:
"'Mike'" wrote in message ... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Buckland.html Mike .................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive ................................... Perhaps what is really needed is for Green Acre to continue with Toby as a different gardening program. For those of us creating or aspiring to create a garden from scratch, this is far more interesting than an existing garden. Depends who you ask: there's no getting away from the fact that viewing figures for the new series are over 25% up on last year. |
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On 2011-04-07 22:45:52 +0100, Martin said:
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 17:34:34 +0100, Stan The Man wrote: On 2011-04-05 22:50:48 +0100, "M" said: "'Mike'" wrote in message ... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Buckland.html Mike .................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive ................................... Perhaps what is really needed is for Green Acre to continue with Toby as a different gardening program. For those of us creating or aspiring to create a garden from scratch, this is far more interesting than an existing garden. Depends who you ask: there's no getting away from the fact that viewing figures for the new series are over 25% up on last year. Even more people watch Eastenders, but that doesn't mean it is a quality programme. It doesn't prove that it isn't, either. Chacun a son gout. One man's meat, etc |
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On 2011-04-09 21:48:41 +0100, Martin said:
On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 17:12:44 +0100, Stan The Man wrote: On 2011-04-07 22:45:52 +0100, Martin said: On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 17:34:34 +0100, Stan The Man wrote: On 2011-04-05 22:50:48 +0100, "M" said: "'Mike'" wrote in message ... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Buckland.html Mike .................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive ................................... Perhaps what is really needed is for Green Acre to continue with Toby as a different gardening program. For those of us creating or aspiring to create a garden from scratch, this is far more interesting than an existing garden. Depends who you ask: there's no getting away from the fact that viewing figures for the new series are over 25% up on last year. Even more people watch Eastenders, but that doesn't mean it is a quality programme. It doesn't prove that it isn't, either. Chacun a son gout. One man's meat, etc My point is that viewing figures prove very little. Well, they prove that the current GW series is of interest to more people than the previous one. Your view is subjective, naturally, and you are entitled to it - even though you would appear to be in the minority preferring last year's series. Quality too is subjective and difficult to define. Arguably a programme has only to be technically well-made to earn the quality symbol...and in that respect, the current series is at least as well made as last year's series -- in my view. |
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 17:41:24 +0100, Martin wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:40:38 +0100, Janet wrote: In article , says... In our house we are unaminous in our opinion of the current GW. Last year I don't recall scenes that were filmed in a gloomy shed with the camera focussed on a celebrity's face rather than on what he was doing with his hands. I didn't care what Monty was doing, I was lusting after his wonderful shed and wanted to see more of it. Good Friday edition had the wonderful shed better illuminated and an increase in the photos of Mony Don's hands to face ratio. At the right of the tools hanging on the wall was something in a sheath, with what seemed to be Japanese writing on it. Does anybody know exactly what it was? (It's a long time since I lived there, but I've been told Sargents in Reading have long closed: the inheritor wasn't interested, apparently. I mourn the loss, as they had wonderful tools from all over the place, including extraordinary Japanese ones. The Japanese saws were thin, and cut on the pull stroke, so even if I could have afforded them, their precision would have been utterly wasted on me.) -- Mike. |
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