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I'm about to buy a new greenhouse - plain aluminium and toughened glass.
At least 8 x 10. There seem to be several makes available (Halls, Robinsons, Eden, Elite, etc) which all seem to be very similar. Any recommendations or things to avoid from experience? TIA -- Jeff |
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On 14/09/2012 09:33, Jeff Layman wrote:
I'm about to buy a new greenhouse - plain aluminium and toughened glass. At least 8 x 10. There seem to be several makes available (Halls, Robinsons, Eden, Elite, etc) which all seem to be very similar. Any recommendations or things to avoid from experience? TIA Have a look at these people http://www.ukgreenhousesales.co.uk/?...FeXMtAodoRYAsQ |
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"Jeff Layman" wrote in message ... I'm about to buy a new greenhouse - plain aluminium and toughened glass. At least 8 x 10. There seem to be several makes available (Halls, Robinsons, Eden, Elite, etc) which all seem to be very similar. Any recommendations or things to avoid from experience? TIA -- Jeff Plenty of roof vents, double doors and internal bracing are all good things, generally found in the bigger houses, I have 4 Halls magnum 8x14's and have never had a problem, they survived the 87 storm and all those since without losing a single pane of glass! -- Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella and Lapageria rosea cvs http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk |
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Charlie Pridham wrote: "Jeff Layman" wrote in message ... I'm about to buy a new greenhouse - plain aluminium and toughened glass. At least 8 x 10. There seem to be several makes available (Halls, Robinsons, Eden, Elite, etc) which all seem to be very similar. Any recommendations or things to avoid from experience? Plenty of roof vents, double doors and internal bracing are all good things, generally found in the bigger houses, I have 4 Halls magnum 8x14's and have never had a problem, they survived the 87 storm and all those since without losing a single pane of glass! Something that is often forgotten is that roof vents are ineffectual without floor vents - or at least enough leakage! I have seen people remove panes at the bottom for that reason. We have a south-facing conservatory and the roof vent area is 15% of the floor area, but we have five 20x20 cm floor vents, and it does NOT get to be like a blast furnace when we are out and the sun shines. Yes, it gets hot. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Main recommendation is to get a greenhouse bigger than you think you will need. Mine is, I think, 16 by 10 and is too small. It has a partition part way along, so in winter I have a heated inner part and an unheated outer end. The outer door is double, which is great for access, and for leaving open in the summer. You'll need more opening windows than provided. Automatic vents on at least some of them. One or more louvred panels at the base improve ventilation, although I don't have those and it hasn't caused me a problem. If you're going to heat it, think hard about what you will do with the area under the staging - if you're not using it for plants and therefore don't need the light, make a thicker insulated wall under there - it's not the biggest heat loss but every little helps. Make sure it's draught-proof, especially where it joins the base (and this will also stop water seeping in underneath). If you're putting electric heating in, then add in an electric light, and a spare socket for your radio. A reasonably comfy chair is good too.
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On 14/09/2012 09:33, Jeff Layman wrote:
I'm about to buy a new greenhouse - plain aluminium and toughened glass. At least 8 x 10. There seem to be several makes available (Halls, Robinsons, Eden, Elite, etc) which all seem to be very similar. Any recommendations or things to avoid from experience? TIA In the "Old days" we reckoned that 1/8th of the roof as vents. |
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David Hill wrote: Something that is often forgotten is that roof vents are ineffectual without floor vents - or at least enough leakage! I have seen people remove panes at the bottom for that reason. We have a south-facing conservatory and the roof vent area is 15% of the floor area, but we have five 20x20 cm floor vents, and it does NOT get to be like a blast furnace when we are out and the sun shines. Yes, it gets hot. What a shame that commercial glasshouse manufactures don't know that. Yes - especially since that they did 100-150 years back, and it doesn't need more than GCSE physics to know why :-( Actually, I may have been misremembering - it may only be 11.5% of the floor area as vents. Anyway, it was as much as we could fit into the design. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:33:44 +0100, Jeff Layman
wrote: I'm about to buy a new greenhouse - plain aluminium and toughened glass. At least 8 x 10. There seem to be several makes available (Halls, Robinsons, Eden, Elite, etc) which all seem to be very similar. Any recommendations or things to avoid from experience? TIA Rhino http://rhinogreenhouse.co.uk/ Very happy with mine. Regards JonH |
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On 14/09/2012 09:33, Jeff Layman wrote:
I'm about to buy a new greenhouse - plain aluminium and toughened glass. At least 8 x 10. There seem to be several makes available (Halls, Robinsons, Eden, Elite, etc) which all seem to be very similar. Any recommendations or things to avoid from experience? TIA Thanks to all for their inputs. -- Jeff |
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kay wrote: Something that is often forgotten is that roof vents are ineffectual without floor vents - or at least enough leakage! I have seen people remove panes at the bottom for that reason. We have a south-facing conservatory and the roof vent area is 15% of the floor area, but we have five 20x20 cm floor vents, and it does NOT get to be like a blast furnace when we are out and the sun shines. Yes, it gets hot. I guess the reason I get by without floor vents is that I keep the doors open once the weather warms up. Floor vents aren't a lot of use if you've got the under-staging area crammed with pots, compost etc. You have to be around all of the time to do that. And it is not true that they don't work under those circumstances - air is a fluid - they don't work only if you actually block the flow. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Ray remembers 1/6th in aluminium greenhouses. Our big double is 50' by 100' and has roof vents and two double doors one one side but no side vents. Seems to work. He reckons that side vents in a smaller, domestic set up might be a good idea but in this instance, size does matter. ;-) If we think of those pretty greenhouses seen in older house's gardens, many of them are long and narrow and have side windows that open. PS Why do I know these roof vents as 'lights' from my CI childhood? I don't think I know anyone over here that calls them that. Or does it perhaps have another meaning I've forgotten? More delving back into history. In Victorian times the "cold frames" were covered with very large 6ft X 6ft glazed frames known as "Lights", later called "English Lights" they were a 2 man job to move around, they stayed in use till into the 1950's, and in fact you will probably still find some in historic gardens. They were superseded by the smaller and lighter "Dutch Lights" which were a single sheet of glass in a wooden frame. These Dutch lights were also used to make glass houses, hence opening some of the lights. The Dutch light houses were then superseded by Glass houses consisting of 4 sheet frames, making construction quicker and easier, then Aluminium framed Venlo glass houses still using the Dutch light sized glass 28 3/4" x 56" or for those metric minded 1422 x 730 mm To see pictures of English Lights go to http://www.pampas2palms.com/2012/06/...nd-part-1.html David @ the cool and sunless side of Swansea Bay |
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