"Christina Websell" wrote in
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"Baz" wrote in message
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I am very lucky to work for a firm that allows me to use the transport
for
my own use, by arrangement of course.
A co-worker and me have ferried some lost count of loads of free
manure to the half allotment and to the house.
It is absolultely amazing how many "friends" I could have now!
They think because it is free that they can give me small talk and
perseuade me into giving them some for free.
The word free is a bit misleading. I have to buy the fuel to power
both vehicles, AND the insurance for personal use of 2 of them. Now
that makes it all a bit iffy as to whether it is economical.

If your fellow allotment users are swarming over you for free manure,
just explain what you said here, and charge them less than they would
have to pay normally, and they will still be your friends.

For some fat tart to have a go at me with her giant husband, and then
asks for my wares is a big NO.

I object to that description, whether you liked her or not, that is
out of order. You are calling her a prostitute - hope she doesn't
read the group ;-) or her giant husband either..
I know you think you are talking to friends on here, but there are
many others who will read this via gardenbanter perhaps and I'm sure
we have lots of lurkers.
Just be careful about insulting a woman online who has a giant husband
who has an allotment where you are and might be lurking for one thing
and the other thing is I'd prefer it if you didn't call any woman by
that sort of name. Fat tart! FGS, Baz.
That's well out of order.







I disagree, it is not out of order. I respect your words but how do you
know if she is, in your words, a prostitute. She is a fat tart. An ugly
fat tart. I can say that because I have met them, and if you ever have
the misfortune to meet a clout like those scum you are welcome to
patronise me.
Baz

In article ,
Baz wrote:
Martin wrote in
:

The reason for crop rotation isn't just to avoid blight.

It is a reason, but not the main reason?
Other pests and diseases?
Am I right in saying that for eg: bean plants fix nitrogen into the soil
for next years brassiccas? then potatoes, then carrots and parsnip?

A lot of questions from me. Most of us cannot have a 4 year rotation, well,
me anyway.

Crop rotation as a method of disease control doesn't work on a
small scale, and it is pretty ineffective in other ways, too.
The conventional recommendation is never to plant within 10 yards
of where you did last year - and that's the distance of the
closest points. Get real in a suburban garden.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Martin wrote in
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On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 10:52:56 GMT, Baz wrote:

Martin wrote in
m:


The reason for crop rotation isn't just to avoid blight.

It is a reason, but not the main reason?
Other pests and diseases?
Am I right in saying that for eg: bean plants fix nitrogen into the
soil for next years brassiccas? then potatoes, then carrots and
parsnip?

A lot of questions from me. Most of us cannot have a 4 year rotation,
well, me anyway.

I often find that going back to basics work.

RHS
http://apps.rhs.org.uk/advicesearch/...e.aspx?pid=124

Potatoes in particular
http://www.aardappelpagina.nl/explor...a/rotation.htm

Thanks for the informative links, Martin.
Baz

In article ,
Martin wrote:
On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 11:41:00 GMT, Baz wrote:


The Dutch one surprised me

"Only the potato production frequencies less that 50% proves to be
economically viable."

Not me. Think eelworm. There is also spraing. Both are soil
borne, and build up with regular potato crops.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:09:24 PM UTC+1, Baz wrote:
"Christina Websell" wrote in

:





"Baz" wrote in message

...

I am very lucky to work for a firm that allows me to use the transport

for

my own use, by arrangement of course.

A co-worker and me have ferried some lost count of loads of free

manure to the half allotment and to the house.

It is absolultely amazing how many "friends" I could have now!

They think because it is free that they can give me small talk and

perseuade me into giving them some for free.

The word free is a bit misleading. I have to buy the fuel to power

both vehicles, AND the insurance for personal use of 2 of them. Now

that makes it all a bit iffy as to whether it is economical.



If your fellow allotment users are swarming over you for free manure,

just explain what you said here, and charge them less than they would

have to pay normally, and they will still be your friends.



For some fat tart to have a go at me with her giant husband, and then

asks for my wares is a big NO.



I object to that description, whether you liked her or not, that is

out of order. You are calling her a prostitute - hope she doesn't

read the group ;-) or her giant husband either..

I know you think you are talking to friends on here, but there are

many others who will read this via gardenbanter perhaps and I'm sure

we have lots of lurkers.

Just be careful about insulting a woman online who has a giant husband

who has an allotment where you are and might be lurking for one thing

and the other thing is I'd prefer it if you didn't call any woman by

that sort of name. Fat tart! FGS, Baz.

That's well out of order.















I disagree, it is not out of order. I respect your words but how do you

know if she is, in your words, a prostitute. She is a fat tart. An ugly

fat tart. I can say that because I have met them, and if you ever have

the misfortune to meet a clout like those scum you are welcome to

patronise me.

Baz

If your area is anything like the one where I live, some of the local horse owners are only too keen to dispose of the horse manure for free, as long as you go and collect it.

Round here some just pile it up next to their field gate, with a board saying "help yourself".

I would have thought the fat tart and her giant husband would know that, and go and get their own.

Nick wrote

Crop rotation as a method of disease control doesn't work on a
small scale, and it is pretty ineffective in other ways, too.
The conventional recommendation is never to plant within 10 yards
of where you did last year - and that's the distance of the
closest points. Get real in a suburban garden.


Or on an allotment. Even the chap on our site with 6 allotments, all but one
together, would have a job to manage that.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

In article ,
Martin wrote:
On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:43:22 +0100, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:

Crop rotation as a method of disease control doesn't work on a
small scale, and it is pretty ineffective in other ways, too.
The conventional recommendation is never to plant within 10 yards
of where you did last year - and that's the distance of the
closest points. Get real in a suburban garden.

Or on an allotment. Even the chap on our site with 6 allotments, all but one
together, would have a job to manage that.

Crop rotation isn't only to control disease. Is there a scientific
source for the 10 yard figure?

Possibly. It's only a rule of thumb, anyway, and refers to how
far soil-living parasites will travel.

But the main other reason for crop rotation is nutrition, and
that's rarely an issue, except for the most extreme gardeners.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

wrote in message ...
In article ,
Bob Hobden wrote:
"Martin" wrote ...

and sending it all over the site. Get
together with other plot holders and dig them all up now and dispose of
any
rotten ones and the surrounding soil too, it's in everyone's interest.

Unfortunately most of the other plot holders couldn't give a toss.

They will next season! And you know what to tell them when they ask why.

All that needs to be done is that the wildings be cut down before
the blight starts - that may have to be done a couple of times,
but it shouldn't take long. And it's needed to stop the annual
and biennial weeds from seeding everywhere, too.

Wildings? Please forgive my ignorance?
--
--

http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

John wrote in
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If your area is anything like the one where I live, some of the local
horse owners are only too keen to dispose of the horse manure for
free, as long as you go and collect it.

Round here some just pile it up next to their field gate, with a board
saying "help yourself".

I would have thought the fat tart and her giant husband would know
that, and go and get their own.


Well, "round here" you would have thought wrong.
Please remember to snip when you are "thoughting"
At least you don't top post, but I thought that was just idleness.

Baz

"Baz" wrote in message
...
John wrote in
:



If your area is anything like the one where I live, some of the local
horse owners are only too keen to dispose of the horse manure for
free, as long as you go and collect it.

Round here some just pile it up next to their field gate, with a board
saying "help yourself".

I would have thought the fat tart and her giant husband would know
that, and go and get their own.


Well, "round here" you would have thought wrong.
Please remember to snip when you are "thoughting"
At least you don't top post, but I thought that was just idleness.

Baz

I'm beginning to lose patience with you, Baz.
You have a great opportunity by getting an allotment so soon, some people
wait many years for one. Don't ruin it by falling out with the others so
soon.
This is exactly the reason why I don't want strangers to share my plot. You
never know what sort of person you might get.

In article ,
Ophelia wrote:



Wildings? Please forgive my ignorance?

Potato plants that grow from small potatoes missed during harvest
or, in this case, those that survive.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

wrote in :

In article ,
Ophelia wrote:



Wildings? Please forgive my ignorance?

Potato plants that grow from small potatoes missed during harvest
or, in this case, those that survive.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


Ah! We call them volunteers. Sorry for butting in.

Baz

"Christina Websell" wrote in
:


"Baz" wrote in message
...
John wrote in
:



If your area is anything like the one where I live, some of the
local horse owners are only too keen to dispose of the horse manure
for free, as long as you go and collect it.

Round here some just pile it up next to their field gate, with a
board saying "help yourself".

I would have thought the fat tart and her giant husband would know
that, and go and get their own.


Well, "round here" you would have thought wrong.
Please remember to snip when you are "thoughting"
At least you don't top post, but I thought that was just idleness.

Baz

I'm beginning to lose patience with you, Baz.
You have a great opportunity by getting an allotment so soon, some
people wait many years for one. Don't ruin it by falling out with the
others so soon.
This is exactly the reason why I don't want strangers to share my
plot. You never know what sort of person you might get.







Lose patience, tear your comic books up, whatever takes your fancy.
What happens here, and I think is typical of local council owned
allotments, is to let a % of plots to schools and some local schemes.
Some to try and get offenders an interest other than drug taking and
theiving. Of course they all have different days on the site so as not to
have primary school pupils mixing with the criminal type. This criminal
type only come here to keep their selves from prison. But it is all ok to
mix with the rest of us.

Baz

wrote in message ...
In article ,
Ophelia wrote:



Wildings? Please forgive my ignorance?

Potato plants that grow from small potatoes missed during harvest
or, in this case, those that survive.

Thank you
--
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http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

"Baz" wrote
wrote
Ophelia wrote:

Wildings? Please forgive my ignorance?

Potato plants that grow from small potatoes missed during harvest
or, in this case, those that survive.

Ah! We call them volunteers. Sorry for butting in.

Or self-sets, as my hubby calls them.

If they get left in our veg plot, they seem more often than not to
produce a bigger and better crop of spuds than the specially planted
ones. Typical!

--
Sue