I was wondering if anyone would recognise any of the 6 plants in this
photoset please? All growing on heavy non alkaline clay.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/timjwa...7644693912260/


A couple of bushes I'm trying to decide whether to keep or not ("Boring
shrub" and "Fluffy bush"). Not sure about "Tree" either. It's green -
that's all I can say about it. It's also over a sewer line so I'm
interested if its roots are likely to be evil and far reaching...


The others I am merely curious:

"Ground stuff" is quite nice and soft - wondering whether to encourage it.

"Dead shrub" is very weird - looks like a dried twig half the year, then
does a Lazarus in about May.

"Nice tree" is really rather pretty. Slow growing, bendy twisty branches.


I've uncovered all of these since hacking back the jungle that used to
be here...

Many many thanks if anyone has any ideas?

And HOW do you ID plants, apart from knowing what lots of them look
like? It's not something Google image matching helps with and I'm too
ill informed (though I'd like to improve).

Cheers

Tim

On 10/06/2014 13:40, Tim Watts wrote:
I was wondering if anyone would recognise any of the 6 plants in this
photoset please? All growing on heavy non alkaline clay.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/timjwa...7644693912260/


A couple of bushes I'm trying to decide whether to keep or not ("Boring
shrub" and "Fluffy bush"). Not sure about "Tree" either. It's green -
that's all I can say about it. It's also over a sewer line so I'm
interested if its roots are likely to be evil and far reaching...


The others I am merely curious:

"Ground stuff" is quite nice and soft - wondering whether to encourage it.

"Dead shrub" is very weird - looks like a dried twig half the year, then
does a Lazarus in about May.

"Nice tree" is really rather pretty. Slow growing, bendy twisty branches.


I've uncovered all of these since hacking back the jungle that used to
be here...

Many many thanks if anyone has any ideas?

And HOW do you ID plants, apart from knowing what lots of them look
like? It's not something Google image matching helps with and I'm too
ill informed (though I'd like to improve).

Cheers

Tim

Hi,

I can only help with "Dead shrub" which looks like Honeysuckle (Lonicera
sp.) and "Tree", a Lilac (Syringa sp.)

On 2014-06-10 12:40:36 +0000, Tim Watts said:

I was wondering if anyone would recognise any of the 6 plants in this
photoset please? All growing on heavy non alkaline clay.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/timjwa...7644693912260/


A couple of bushes I'm trying to decide whether to keep or not ("Boring
shrub" and "Fluffy bush"). Not sure about "Tree" either. It's green -
that's all I can say about it. It's also over a sewer line so I'm
interested if its roots are likely to be evil and far reaching...


The others I am merely curious:

"Ground stuff" is quite nice and soft - wondering whether to encourage it.

"Dead shrub" is very weird - looks like a dried twig half the year,
then does a Lazarus in about May.

"Nice tree" is really rather pretty. Slow growing, bendy twisty branches.


I've uncovered all of these since hacking back the jungle that used to
be here...

Many many thanks if anyone has any ideas?

And HOW do you ID plants, apart from knowing what lots of them look
like? It's not something Google image matching helps with and I'm too
ill informed (though I'd like to improve).

Cheers

Tim

Pure guesswork - Boring Shrub might be a Weigela which is anything but
boring when it flowers. Fluffy bush is ringing bells but not loud
enough! "Dead" shrub is a horribly badly treated climbing Lonicera
(honeysuckle). Tree or big bush looks like a Syringa (lilac) Nice tree
looks as if it has cherry type fruits. "Ground stuff" looks like
something I can't remember the name of but it has a rather acrid smell,
I think. If this house is new to you, some might have flowered and the
flowers have gone. Others may be starved of light and nutrients so
either haven't flowered or won't this year but probably will next year
now they're getting some tlc. To id plants, I don't think you can beat
this newsgroup! We have members/lurkers from all over UK and some from
abroad. Between the lot, it's rare for a plant to go unidentified for
long.
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

On 10/06/14 14:38, sacha wrote:

Pure guesswork - Boring Shrub might be a Weigela which is anything but
boring when it flowers. Fluffy bush is ringing bells but not loud
enough! "Dead" shrub is a horribly badly treated climbing Lonicera
(honeysuckle). Tree or big bush looks like a Syringa (lilac) Nice tree
looks as if it has cherry type fruits. "Ground stuff" looks like
something I can't remember the name of but it has a rather acrid smell,
I think. If this house is new to you, some might have flowered and the
flowers have gone. Others may be starved of light and nutrients so
either haven't flowered or won't this year but probably will next year
now they're getting some tlc. To id plants, I don't think you can beat
this newsgroup! We have members/lurkers from all over UK and some from
abroad. Between the lot, it's rare for a plant to go unidentified for long.
Sacha

Thanks muchly Sacha!

With these suggestions (and gogo's) I can "work forwards" and look them
up on google and see if the rest of the attributes match.

Weigela's do look nice if the flower - OK it gets to live... Done well -
it was cut to the ground when I had an old fence removed. Sadly a rather
nice bush next to it (poss rhododendron) did not survive.

"Fluffy" is actually fast growing and seems to pop out of the ground at
various random points near to the main bush.

"Syringa" - that's actually the name of the house next to mine - curious...

Ground stuff needs a sniff then. I was hoping it might be something nice
like chamomile (but it does not look right for the chamomiles google is
pulling up, though it's soft leaves seem a little similar). Not seen it
flower - might just be a weed.

Cheers!

Tim

On 10/06/14 14:08, gogo wrote:

I can only help with "Dead shrub" which looks like Honeysuckle (Lonicera
sp.) and "Tree", a Lilac (Syringa sp.)

Thanks gogo

I thought honeysuckles were bigger but maybe this one is not happy.
Perhaps I'll try transplanting it to a better location.

Ground Stuff is Yarrow, aka Milfoil, latin name Achillea millefolium.
Generally regarded as a weed (in my garden, anyway!). The common stuff
has a flat head of white flowers held on a stalk above the basal
rosette of leaves. There are selected cultivated varieties with
yellow, pink and brick red flowers that are more attractive.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achillea_millefolium.

Thanks Chris! I'll look that up. I have at least heard of yarrow...

On 10/06/2014 15:04, Tim Watts wrote:
On 10/06/14 14:08, gogo wrote:

I can only help with "Dead shrub" which looks like Honeysuckle (Lonicera
sp.) and "Tree", a Lilac (Syringa sp.)

Thanks gogo

I thought honeysuckles were bigger but maybe this one is not happy.
Perhaps I'll try transplanting it to a better location.

I've tried one particular honeysuckle in every conceivable aspect for
the last 10 years. It's now facing south with its own posh trellis and
looking lush, but I'm waiting for the leaves to curl and fall off
.....again. A flower or two would be nice

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
I was wondering if anyone would recognise any of the 6 plants in this
photoset please? All growing on heavy non alkaline clay.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/timjwa...7644693912260/


A couple of bushes I'm trying to decide whether to keep or not ("Boring
shrub" and "Fluffy bush"). Not sure about "Tree" either. It's green -
that's all I can say about it. It's also over a sewer line so I'm
interested if its roots are likely to be evil and far reaching...


The others I am merely curious:

"Ground stuff" is quite nice and soft - wondering whether to encourage it.

"Dead shrub" is very weird - looks like a dried twig half the year, then
does a Lazarus in about May.

"Nice tree" is really rather pretty. Slow growing, bendy twisty branches.


I've uncovered all of these since hacking back the jungle that used to be
here...

Many many thanks if anyone has any ideas?

And HOW do you ID plants, apart from knowing what lots of them look like?
It's not something Google image matching helps with and I'm too ill
informed (though I'd like to improve).

Cheers

Tim

I agree the boring shrub may be weigelia but it ought to be in flower?
Fluffy shrub is maybe a Spiraea
Dead shrub is not dead its a honeysuckle, most likely one of the late Dutch
sorts (will be nice in August)
tree/shrub is a lilac
I don't know the nice tree
the ground stuff is a weed called milfoil I think its a sort of Achillea

For id purposes flowers always help as do leaves, each genus has
characteristics like leaves being in pairs or single, this helps narrow down
the area of brain to be rummaged in, but its often a case of "I used to have
that!"

--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk

On 10/06/14 20:24, Charlie Pridham wrote:

Thanks Charlie...


I agree the boring shrub may be weigelia but it ought to be in flower?

It was cut level with the ground last year by the fencers. I suspect
it's in a recovery phase maybe?

On 10/06/14 20:24, Charlie Pridham wrote:

the ground stuff is a weed called milfoil I think its a sort of Achillea

Is that the same milfoil that is used in ponds to oxygenate them? There
were a number of ponds here when I took over.

On 10/06/2014 13:40, Tim Watts wrote:
I was wondering if anyone would recognise any of the 6 plants in this
photoset please? All growing on heavy non alkaline clay.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/timjwa...7644693912260/


A couple of bushes I'm trying to decide whether to keep or not ("Boring
shrub" and "Fluffy bush"). Not sure about "Tree" either. It's green -
that's all I can say about it. It's also over a sewer line so I'm
interested if its roots are likely to be evil and far reaching...


The others I am merely curious:

"Ground stuff" is quite nice and soft - wondering whether to encourage it.

"Dead shrub" is very weird - looks like a dried twig half the year, then
does a Lazarus in about May.

"Nice tree" is really rather pretty. Slow growing, bendy twisty branches.


I've uncovered all of these since hacking back the jungle that used to
be here...

Many many thanks if anyone has any ideas?

And HOW do you ID plants, apart from knowing what lots of them look
like? It's not something Google image matching helps with and I'm too
ill informed (though I'd like to improve).

Cheers

Tim
The first is wigelia which doesn't flower on first season growth so
nothing till next year.
The fluffy bush looks to me like Spiraea X billiardii
The third, honeysuckle, just wants a good feed, something with fairly
high Nitrogen (that's the first number when you see what's in the feed.)
Tree or big bush is Lilac
The tree makes me think of a Pear tree, but I cant enlarge the picture
to have a closer look at parts of the tree.
Lastly a form of achillia, the flower will telll you if it's wild or a
cultivated form

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
On 10/06/14 20:24, Charlie Pridham wrote:

the ground stuff is a weed called milfoil I think its a sort of Achillea

Is that the same milfoil that is used in ponds to oxygenate them? There
were a number of ponds here when I took over.

No, as I think Chris has said, they are different species from different
genera, they share a common name because the leaves look similar.

Our fault for using common names instead of the Latin name, but it does
illustrate the advantage at some point at getting to grips with plants
proper names, there is then no confusion :~)

--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk

"David Hill" wrote
The first is wigelia which doesn't flower on first season growth so nothing
till next year.
The fluffy bush looks to me like Spiraea X billiardii
The third, honeysuckle, just wants a good feed, something with fairly high
Nitrogen (that's the first number when you see what's in the feed.)
Tree or big bush is Lilac
The tree makes me think of a Pear tree, but I cant enlarge the picture to
have a closer look at parts of the tree.
Lastly a form of achillia, the flower will telll you if it's wild or a
cultivated form


Something about the tree suggests Cherry to me, possibly the sour one.
Morello. It actually almost looks like tree covered in ivy the growth is so
lush.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

On 2014-06-11 08:04:53 +0000, Bob Hobden said:

"David Hill" wrote
The first is wigelia which doesn't flower on first season growth so
nothing till next year.
The fluffy bush looks to me like Spiraea X billiardii
The third, honeysuckle, just wants a good feed, something with fairly
high Nitrogen (that's the first number when you see what's in the feed.)
Tree or big bush is Lilac
The tree makes me think of a Pear tree, but I cant enlarge the picture
to have a closer look at parts of the tree.
Lastly a form of achillia, the flower will telll you if it's wild or a
cultivated form


Something about the tree suggests Cherry to me, possibly the sour one.
Morello. It actually almost looks like tree covered in ivy the growth
is so lush.

You can actually see some cherry type fruits hanging from it in a
couple of places. But the leaves aren't what you'd expect from the
normal edible cherry. And the achillea/yarrow/millefeuille is exactly
what I was trying to think of!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

On 10/06/2014 20:24, Charlie Pridham wrote:

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
I was wondering if anyone would recognise any of the 6 plants in this
photoset please? All growing on heavy non alkaline clay.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/timjwa...7644693912260/


A couple of bushes I'm trying to decide whether to keep or not
("Boring shrub" and "Fluffy bush"). Not sure about "Tree" either. It's
green - that's all I can say about it. It's also over a sewer line so
I'm interested if its roots are likely to be evil and far reaching...


The others I am merely curious:

"Ground stuff" is quite nice and soft - wondering whether to encourage
it.

"Dead shrub" is very weird - looks like a dried twig half the year,
then does a Lazarus in about May.

"Nice tree" is really rather pretty. Slow growing, bendy twisty branches.


I've uncovered all of these since hacking back the jungle that used to
be here...

Many many thanks if anyone has any ideas?

And HOW do you ID plants, apart from knowing what lots of them look
like? It's not something Google image matching helps with and I'm too
ill informed (though I'd like to improve).

Cheers

Tim

I agree the boring shrub may be weigelia but it ought to be in flower?
Fluffy shrub is maybe a Spiraea
Dead shrub is not dead its a honeysuckle, most likely one of the late
Dutch sorts (will be nice in August)
tree/shrub is a lilac
I don't know the nice tree

Some sort of cherry I think - you can see the fruits. But the leaf veins
being relatively few and swept forwards is bothering me.

the ground stuff is a weed called milfoil I think its a sort of Achillea

For id purposes flowers always help as do leaves, each genus has
characteristics like leaves being in pairs or single, this helps narrow
down the area of brain to be rummaged in, but its often a case of "I
used to have that!"



--
Stewart Robert Hinsley