I am now on a mission.

We have one access to our property. It is via a gate from the main road,
walking between two properties (an alleyway in effect) towards our garden
then a left turn to our stairs leading to our flat.

Now the problem is that our alley is used as a cat toilet...BIG TIME. Every
night at least one or two cat dumps would mysteriously appear along the
ally.

We are plagued with at least 6 or 7 cats who use our garden and I have used
everything over the last year or so to stop them fouling the alleyway.

I have used all the specialised chemical deterrents on the market (powders
and liquid) ... NO GOOD.

I have used bleaches, even Jeyes Fluid and Jeyes Dustbin Powder...NO GOOD.

Bought a high-powered, pump water pistol. Cats used to laugh at that. In
desperation I filled it with a Jeyes solution ... it melted the water
reservoir ... NO GOOD.

I now use two ultrasound cat repellers around and down the alley. It has
cut the crap by about 25% but there are still deaf cats about so ...NO GOOD.

What do I do now? Summer is upon us and today the alley was full of crap
and swarms of flies.

I'm getting to the point where I want to buy an air rifle but fear this may
be frowned upon so will not mention it just yet

SERIOUSLY - Anyone know how to build an electric barrier (similar to cattle
fencing but adjusted voltage for smaller mammals). I am no electronics
expert so I am not too hot on volts and currents.

I will be posting soon re gaining info and experiences in the hope that I
could soon lobby my local council to make a bye-law as per references to the
Public Health Act 1938 with reference also to the Environmental Protection
Act 1990.

Regards all

MC

In article , MC
writes
I am now on a mission.

Have a look at the urg FAQ about cats at:
http://www.tmac.clara.co.uk/urgring/faqcats1.htm
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

"MC" wrote in message
...

SERIOUSLY - Anyone know how to build an electric barrier (similar to
cattle
fencing but adjusted voltage for smaller mammals). I am no electronics
expert so I am not too hot on volts and currents.


DO NOT BUILD YOUR OWN FENCE. At best, you would kill the cat, at worst a
small child. Especially do not try to build one if you've not got a large
amount of electrical knowledge! Hell, I'm "hot on volts and currents" with
a professional electrical-circuit-design-for-skyscrapers-and-oil-rigs uncle
and I still wouldn't evern start to think about plans!

Don't be a dick and play with electrics that you don't know how to use.

Charlie.

Oh, and look up a story in the newspapers about a week ago about a guy who
built a home made electric fence. Killed the cat and could have killed a
child up to the age of about 8.

I'm getting to the point where I want to buy an air rifle but fear this
may
be frowned upon so will not mention it just yet

Two words, f. u.

On Thu, 29 May 2003 17:57:15 +0100, MC wrote:

SERIOUSLY - Anyone know how to build an electric barrier (similar to cattle
fencing but adjusted voltage for smaller mammals). I am no electronics
expert so I am not too hot on volts and currents.

In that case, do not build the barrier. If you don't know what you are
doing with electricity - stay well away from it. Electricity CAN KILL.

Sarah

"MC" who sounds like a troll wrote in message

I am now on a mission.

We have one access to our property. It is via a gate from the main road,
walking between two properties (an alleyway in effect) towards our garden
then a left turn to our stairs leading to our flat.

Now the problem is that our alley is used as a cat toilet...BIG TIME.
Every
night at least one or two cat dumps would mysteriously appear along the
ally.

We are plagued with at least 6 or 7 cats who use our garden and I have
used
everything over the last year or so to stop them fouling the alleyway.

Well what's all this about plague? How about the birds that crap on your
garden, the worms that crap in your garden, the treated sewage that is
sprayed on the land your food is grown in....... It's what makes plants
grow! We actually buy horse manure. (Biggest source of Tetanus infection)

Anyway, you presumably have seen these cats doing it in your alley? It
couldn't possibly be Foxes? Looks similar and smells worse and isn't buried.
Neighbour saw a fox last night jump straight over a 6ft fence.


What do I do now?

Learn some tollerance and chill out? Think of it as free manure.

--
Bob

www.pooleygreengrowers.org.uk/ about an Allotment site in
Runnymede fighting for it's existence.

MC wrote:
SERIOUSLY - Anyone know how to build an electric barrier (similar to
cattle fencing but adjusted voltage for smaller mammals). I am no
electronics expert so I am not too hot on volts and currents.

I will be posting soon re gaining info and experiences in the hope
that I could soon lobby my local council to make a bye-law as per
references to the Public Health Act 1938 with reference also to the
Environmental Protection Act 1990.


Two options here shoot them or send all the crap to Bob Hobden he likes it!

And Bob report me to who ever you bloody like, they don't care.

"Sue & Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...

"MC" who sounds like a troll wrote in message

I am now on a mission.

We have one access to our property. It is via a gate from the main
road,
walking between two properties (an alleyway in effect) towards our
garden
then a left turn to our stairs leading to our flat.

Now the problem is that our alley is used as a cat toilet...BIG TIME.
Every
night at least one or two cat dumps would mysteriously appear along the
ally.

We are plagued with at least 6 or 7 cats who use our garden and I have
used
everything over the last year or so to stop them fouling the alleyway.

Well what's all this about plague? How about the birds that crap on your
garden, the worms that crap in your garden, the treated sewage that is
sprayed on the land your food is grown in....... It's what makes plants
grow! We actually buy horse manure. (Biggest source of Tetanus infection)


More than one cat that craps in my garden is a plague. Besides, the garden
I can handle, it's the alleyway where we have to play slalem in the morning
to go to work.

Horse crap = excreated plant matter.
Cat crap = mainly excreated animal matter. Compleatly different. It stinks
and is socially unpleasent. Does not make the plants grow and has the
potential to carry many more parasites and diseases.

Anyway, you presumably have seen these cats doing it in your alley? It
couldn't possibly be Foxes? Looks similar and smells worse and isn't
buried.
Neighbour saw a fox last night jump straight over a 6ft fence.


Caught two different cats in the act on different days. Trouble is I was
not quick enough with my water gun at the time.


What do I do now?

Learn some tollerance and chill out? Think of it as free manure.

--

Yeah right. Shows how much you know about cat crap then.

MC

"Coffea ramosa" wrote in message
...
I'm getting to the point where I want to buy an air rifle but fear this
may
be frowned upon so will not mention it just yet

Two words, f. u.


Have no idea what you could mean.

Note the toungue in cheek smiley at the end of my original comment.

MC

"Charlie" wrote in message
...

"MC" wrote in message
...

SERIOUSLY - Anyone know how to build an electric barrier (similar to
cattle
fencing but adjusted voltage for smaller mammals). I am no electronics
expert so I am not too hot on volts and currents.


DO NOT BUILD YOUR OWN FENCE. At best, you would kill the cat, at worst a
small child. Especially do not try to build one if you've not got a large
amount of electrical knowledge! Hell, I'm "hot on volts and currents"
with
a professional electrical-circuit-design-for-skyscrapers-and-oil-rigs
uncle
and I still wouldn't evern start to think about plans!

Don't be a dick and play with electrics that you don't know how to use.

Charlie.

Oh, and look up a story in the newspapers about a week ago about a guy who
built a home made electric fence. Killed the cat and could have killed a
child up to the age of about 8.


Rules that out then, just a thought by someone who is running out of ideas.

MC

"Sarah Dale" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 29 May 2003 17:57:15 +0100, MC wrote:

SERIOUSLY - Anyone know how to build an electric barrier (similar to
cattle
fencing but adjusted voltage for smaller mammals). I am no electronics
expert so I am not too hot on volts and currents.

In that case, do not build the barrier. If you don't know what you are
doing with electricity - stay well away from it. Electricity CAN KILL.

Sarah

See reply to Charlie.

MC

"MC" wrote in
:

We are plagued with at least 6 or 7 cats who use our garden and I have
used everything over the last year or so to stop them fouling the
alleyway.

Well......For start stay away from the electric fence idea....
Far too dangerous....

Have you tried water bombs(balloons) on them?
Keep a coolbox loaded with them near where you see them...
And as soon as you see one launch it at them...

Also.....One thing you can do is to find out where the cats live....
Have a word with the local council and get the owners to deal with them...
Get them in trouble...Its about the only way to get cat owners whos cats
go roaming to respect others

Either that or tell the council that you have stray cats running around and
get them to do something about it....

Ermm - after six months of trying all forms of cat repellent (who seem to do
their stuff on my lawn rather than borders and bury it - we don't have a
catand there is a large cat population on our estate), and out of
purefinancial exasperation I tried the Human Urine 'marking my territory'
bit.

It works very well ! Repeat every fort night (I collect mine in a
milkbottle in the down stairs toilet and then sprinkle it over the lawn and
fence posts after dark !!). The cats get the message. You might find that
after a while the passway smells a bit to your nose - but atleast you won't
be dodging things..

Sorry for those eating their tea whilst reading this post !!

Sydney
"MC" wrote in message
...
I am now on a mission.

We have one access to our property. It is via a gate from the main road,
walking between two properties (an alleyway in effect) towards our garden
then a left turn to our stairs leading to our flat.

Now the problem is that our alley is used as a cat toilet...BIG TIME.
Every
night at least one or two cat dumps would mysteriously appear along the
ally.

We are plagued with at least 6 or 7 cats who use our garden and I have
used
everything over the last year or so to stop them fouling the alleyway.

I have used all the specialised chemical deterrents on the market (powders
and liquid) ... NO GOOD.

I have used bleaches, even Jeyes Fluid and Jeyes Dustbin Powder...NO GOOD.

Bought a high-powered, pump water pistol. Cats used to laugh at that. In
desperation I filled it with a Jeyes solution ... it melted the water
reservoir ... NO GOOD.

I now use two ultrasound cat repellers around and down the alley. It has
cut the crap by about 25% but there are still deaf cats about so ...NO
GOOD.

What do I do now? Summer is upon us and today the alley was full of crap
and swarms of flies.

I'm getting to the point where I want to buy an air rifle but fear this
may
be frowned upon so will not mention it just yet

SERIOUSLY - Anyone know how to build an electric barrier (similar to
cattle
fencing but adjusted voltage for smaller mammals). I am no electronics
expert so I am not too hot on volts and currents.

I will be posting soon re gaining info and experiences in the hope that I
could soon lobby my local council to make a bye-law as per references to
the
Public Health Act 1938 with reference also to the Environmental Protection
Act 1990.

Regards all

MC

"MC" wrote in message
...
I am now on a mission.

We have one access to our property. It is via a gate from the main road,
walking between two properties (an alleyway in effect) towards our garden
then a left turn to our stairs leading to our flat.

Now the problem is that our alley is used as a cat toilet...BIG TIME.
Every
night at least one or two cat dumps would mysteriously appear along the
ally.

We are plagued with at least 6 or 7 cats who use our garden and I have
used
everything over the last year or so to stop them fouling the alleyway.

I have used all the specialised chemical deterrents on the market (powders
and liquid) ... NO GOOD.

I have used bleaches, even Jeyes Fluid and Jeyes Dustbin Powder...NO GOOD.

Bought a high-powered, pump water pistol. Cats used to laugh at that. In
desperation I filled it with a Jeyes solution ... it melted the water
reservoir ... NO GOOD.

I now use two ultrasound cat repellers around and down the alley. It has
cut the crap by about 25% but there are still deaf cats about so ...NO
GOOD.

What do I do now? Summer is upon us and today the alley was full of crap
and swarms of flies.

I'm getting to the point where I want to buy an air rifle but fear this
may
be frowned upon so will not mention it just yet

SERIOUSLY - Anyone know how to build an electric barrier (similar to
cattle
fencing but adjusted voltage for smaller mammals). I am no electronics
expert so I am not too hot on volts and currents.

I will be posting soon re gaining info and experiences in the hope that I
could soon lobby my local council to make a bye-law as per references to
the
Public Health Act 1938 with reference also to the Environmental Protection
Act 1990.

Regards all

MC



Have you tried a physical barrier, something spiky which you can still walk
on, maybe holly cuttings, in my case I tend to put down some fire thin
plastic mesh, which they cannot scratch and thus are not inclined to try and
dump on. What about a gate at either end of the alleyway, and a spiky strip
along the top, or a wobble small piece of trellis, tend to put them off.
There really are a lot of other things to try. As a last ditch effort you
could try supply them with a tray of sand somewhere else, I know, I know
that's why it'sa last ditch effort !!!

Also worth bearing in mind that UK law states that cat owners are not
responsible for their cats, since it's not so straightforward to train them.

Are they dumping straight on to the concrete path, or is there gravel or
soil there, if it's gravel or soil, you might think about replacing it. If
soil covering it. You could plant catnip all along the path, then you'd just
have dozy cats, and a lot less crap.

Ho hum a few ideas.
Duncan

We have one access to our property. It is via a gate from the main road,
walking between two properties (an alleyway in effect) towards our garden
then a left turn to our stairs leading to our flat.

What is the alleyway floored with? Earth? Grass? Shingle? Concrete?

If a 'nice' base for cats, make it unpleasant? Eg large diameter shingle,
slate chips etc?

- h