Which I believe is dying. It's about 10 feet tall and was blown over, along
with it's stakes! Last aumtumn.
I'd like to replace it, however I'm not sure about going for another
eucalyptus.
I'd be looking for a shrub/tree that grows to between 10-20 feet and the
leaves are not green!
The only tree at a garden centre that I've seen that meets this description
(according to it's label) is the golden honey locust tree.
I'd be looking to replace it sometime between late summer and autumn.
All suggestions will be appreciated
L

Zizz wrote:

Which I believe is dying. It's about 10 feet tall and was blown over, along
with it's stakes! Last aumtumn.
I'd like to replace it, however I'm not sure about going for another
eucalyptus.
I'd be looking for a shrub/tree that grows to between 10-20 feet and the
leaves are not green!
The only tree at a garden centre that I've seen that meets this description
(according to it's label) is the golden honey locust tree.
I'd be looking to replace it sometime between late summer and autumn.
All suggestions will be appreciated

Plenty of alternative Eucs at:
http://www.eucalyptus.co.uk Not all pure 'green' some are a lot more
silvery/grey in colour. Otherwise an arboretum or Hilers guide to trees
and shrubs might be a place to start looking..

Regularly Pruned copper beech or Cherry plum would not be green. If
pruned the Beech would keep a degree of (dry) foiliage for winter
interest.

Though both of these will get a lot larger if left unpruned.
Just a few ideas of the top of my head.
//
J

Zizz wrote in message ...
Which I believe is dying. It's about 10 feet tall and was blown over, along
with it's stakes! Last aumtumn.
I'd like to replace it, however I'm not sure about going for another
eucalyptus.
I'd be looking for a shrub/tree that grows to between 10-20 feet and the
leaves are not green!
The only tree at a garden centre that I've seen that meets this description
(according to it's label) is the golden honey locust tree.
I'd be looking to replace it sometime between late summer and autumn.
All suggestions will be appreciated
L



Arizona cypress- bluey slver
Purple-leafed hazel- more of a shrub than a tree
Other eucs, as another poster has suggested-maybe the snow gum?
Whitebeam varieties maybe

Planting deciduous stuff when the leaves are off, but the
soil isn't too cold btw is much easier, cheaper, and more successful

--
Anton

--
Anton

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Zizz wrote in message ...
Which I believe is dying. It's about 10 feet tall and was blown over,
along
with it's stakes! Last aumtumn.
I'd like to replace it, however I'm not sure about going for another
eucalyptus.
I'd be looking for a shrub/tree that grows to between 10-20 feet and the
leaves are not green!
The only tree at a garden centre that I've seen that meets this
description
(according to it's label) is the golden honey locust tree.
I'd be looking to replace it sometime between late summer and autumn.
All suggestions will be appreciated
L



Arizona cypress- bluey slver
Purple-leafed hazel- more of a shrub than a tree
Other eucs, as another poster has suggested-maybe the snow gum?
Whitebeam varieties maybe

Planting deciduous stuff when the leaves are off, but the
soil isn't too cold btw is much easier, cheaper, and more successful

--
Anton

--
Anton



I'm not sure!
It seems that everyone is planting eucalyptus these days and I want
something a little different!
I've already two hazels in the garden (kept to a manageable height by
pruning!)
Whitebeam .. hmmm not sure the leaves are striking enough!
I'm getting too picky methinks.
The site is quite windy and I'm in a little bit of a frost pocket .. soil is
clay, location is south east of uk!
L
L

Why not try a hornbeam, I know the leaves are green but small and very
interesting bark.
It will in time make a big tree, but not for 20 or 30 years.
see
http://www.british-trees.com/guide/hornbeam.htm


--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

In article , Zizz
writes

I'm not sure!
It seems that everyone is planting eucalyptus these days and I want
something a little different!
I've already two hazels in the garden (kept to a manageable height by
pruning!)
Whitebeam .. hmmm not sure the leaves are striking enough!

It is a lovely tree. In spring, when the leaves are just opening, you
see the almost white undersides, and it looks as if the entire tree is
covered with large white tulips.

Then you have the white flowers, and following that, the berries - like
marble sized rowan berries.

I'm getting too picky methinks.
The site is quite windy and I'm in a little bit of a frost pocket .. soil is
clay, location is south east of uk!

My whitebeam is sheltered from the wind, but in a frost pocket in acid
clay in Yorkshire and gets waterlogged in winter. If you're in the SE, I
suspect you are on alkaline clay - nasty stuff - but may give you access
to things I can't grow.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Well if you want something a little different, why not think of some of the
"Tree" cotoneaster's

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

"David Hill" wrote in message
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Well if you want something a little different, why not think of some of
the
"Tree" cotoneaster's

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk




Already have a cotoneaster training up a part of the fence and am not too
keen on the plant!

I've had a look at the small trees and they seem to be in the region of
20-30 feet rather than 10-20 feet apart from the acer palmatums which
wouldn't do well in a sunny, windy site, so I'm starting to look at
medium/large shrubs now
I don't want something with spines/thorns!
I do want something that can be trained similar to a tree or where the lower
branches can be cut out to lift the plant and bring a little light to plants
underneath and that has foliage that won't blend into my green fencing!
I think I might be asking too much here.Of the eucalypts that appeal as a
replacement for my sad looking one the following have potential:

Eucalyptus debeuzevillei (Jounama Snow Gum)

/me - sighs!

L

Zizz wrote in message ...



I've had a look at the small trees and they seem to be in the region of
20-30 feet rather than 10-20 feet apart from the acer palmatums which
wouldn't do well in a sunny, windy site, so I'm starting to look at
medium/large shrubs now
I don't want something with spines/thorns!
I do want something that can be trained similar to a tree or where the
lower
branches can be cut out to lift the plant and bring a little light to
plants
underneath and that has foliage that won't blend into my green fencing!
I think I might be asking too much here.Of the eucalypts that appeal as a
replacement for my sad looking one the following have potential:

Eucalyptus debeuzevillei (Jounama Snow Gum)



Beautiful range of colours on the young shoots: can be
a bit slow. I've got one that's rather sheltered and grown at
maybe 2ft/year, and a couple that have been rather windswept and are more
like 1ft/year. As there's such a small sample
there could be other reasons for the difference in growth rate though.

--
Anton

I still say Cotoneaster, have a look at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/plant...ages/232.shtml
not like your ordinary cotoneaster, I have a couple and they make a great
small tree.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

"David Hill" wrote in message
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I still say Cotoneaster, have a look at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/plant...ages/232.shtml
not like your ordinary cotoneaster, I have a couple and they make a great
small tree.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk




I think my best bet is to stand similar sized plants - the cotoneaster and
the snow gum - alongside each other and then trust my instincts!
The only real thing that the cotoneaster has going for it are the berries
..... do the birds like them? .. the main thing against is ... green leaves!!
I must visit a garden centre!
L

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Zizz wrote in message ...



I've had a look at the small trees and they seem to be in the region of
20-30 feet rather than 10-20 feet apart from the acer palmatums which
wouldn't do well in a sunny, windy site, so I'm starting to look at
medium/large shrubs now
I don't want something with spines/thorns!
I do want something that can be trained similar to a tree or where the
lower
branches can be cut out to lift the plant and bring a little light to
plants
underneath and that has foliage that won't blend into my green fencing!
I think I might be asking too much here.Of the eucalypts that appeal as a
replacement for my sad looking one the following have potential:

Eucalyptus debeuzevillei (Jounama Snow Gum)



Beautiful range of colours on the young shoots: can be
a bit slow. I've got one that's rather sheltered and grown at
maybe 2ft/year, and a couple that have been rather windswept and are more
like 1ft/year. As there's such a small sample
there could be other reasons for the difference in growth rate though.

--
Anton



I read that 1ft a year is average, it's probable that the sheltered postion
one is doing better because of the shelter.
L

In article , Zizz
writes

"David Hill" wrote in message
...
Well if you want something a little different, why not think of some of
the
"Tree" cotoneaster's

Already have a cotoneaster training up a part of the fence and am not too
keen on the plant!

That is just one species of cotoneaster - there are others! Try also
Viburnums.

I do want something that can be trained similar to a tree or where the lower
branches can be cut out to lift the plant and bring a little light to plants
underneath and that has foliage that won't blend into my green fencing!

Amelenchier? Bronze young foliage, very light foliage, good flowers in
spring, berries in autumn. Don't know how it'd feel about the site (I'm
not casting doubt, I just don't know)


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Kay Easton wrote in message ...
In article , Zizz
writes


That is just one species of cotoneaster - there are others! Try also
Viburnums.

I do want something that can be trained similar to a tree or where the
lower
branches can be cut out to lift the plant and bring a little light to
plants
underneath and that has foliage that won't blend into my green fencing!

Amelenchier? Bronze young foliage, very light foliage, good flowers in
spring, berries in autumn. Don't know how it'd feel about the site (I'm
not casting doubt, I just don't know)


They are lovely, but tough. The cold winds here before the
trees and hedges started sheltering one another gave a hard
time to a few species, but the amelanchiers never hesitated.
They do try to become a shrub, though I have successfullly decided that one
of them has become a tree.

--
Anton

Zizz wrote:

I think my best bet is to stand similar sized plants - the cotoneaster and
the snow gum - alongside each other and then trust my instincts!
The only real thing that the cotoneaster has going for it are the berries
.... do the birds like them? .. the main thing against is ... green leaves!!
I must visit a garden centre!


Some of them are actually grey on the underside,.. once it gets above
shrub size you'll see that to a degree.

Make note of types you like then take a look around, use google images
to check pictures of that type etc..


I'd recommend Eucalyptus.co.uk purely for their excellent information in
their catalogue/guide. even if you don't buy anything from them its
worth having a copy.
The other good ref (if you want to be cheeky) that is useful is the
Lappen catalogue.. I think I actually owe them a few Euro's for that
one... Ooops!-)
///
Jim