Hi,

I'm planning my veggie plot for next year and I want to grow artichokes,
similar to the ones you get in olive oil from the supermarket. Sainsburys
do some Italian Artichoke antipasto in olive oil.

Are these Jerusalem or Globe artichokes? I'm not sure which ones to buy
from the seed catalogues.

Thanks!

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In 4.3,
Mark Allison typed:
Hi,

I'm planning my veggie plot for next year and I want to grow
artichokes, similar to the ones you get in olive oil from the
supermarket. Sainsburys do some Italian Artichoke antipasto in olive
oil.

Are these Jerusalem or Globe artichokes? I'm not sure which ones to
buy from the seed catalogues.


You want Globe

pk

In article , Mark
Allison writes
Hi,

I'm planning my veggie plot for next year and I want to grow artichokes,
similar to the ones you get in olive oil from the supermarket. Sainsburys
do some Italian Artichoke antipasto in olive oil.

Are these Jerusalem or Globe artichokes? I'm not sure which ones to buy
from the seed catalogues.

Globe artichokes would be the ones for that job. If you obtain some seed
now and begin them very soon, you could have useable artichokes by this
time next year. Give the plants plenty of room - they grow very large!
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

"Alan Gould" wrote in message
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In article , Mark
Allison writes
Hi,

I'm planning my veggie plot for next year and I want to grow artichokes,
similar to the ones you get in olive oil from the supermarket. Sainsburys
do some Italian Artichoke antipasto in olive oil.

Are these Jerusalem or Globe artichokes? I'm not sure which ones to buy
from the seed catalogues.

Globe artichokes would be the ones for that job. If you obtain some seed
now and begin them very soon, you could have useable artichokes by this
time next year. Give the plants plenty of room - they grow very large!

And eat them fresh - not in oil ...

drool

Mary
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

In article ,
Mary Fisher wrote:



Globe artichokes would be the ones for that job. If you obtain some seed
now and begin them very soon, you could have useable artichokes by this
time next year. Give the plants plenty of room - they grow very large!

And eat them fresh - not in oil ...

They like a rich, deep, well-drained soil and must have full light
in the UK. I had some, but they were infested by a root parasite,
and never thrived.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

My one globe artichoke has the most amazing dense infestation of
blackfly. While the broad beans are completely clear, with only the
(very) odd confused ant wandering up and down the stems.

Golly, I've never seen blackfly on artichokes of either kind.

But my artichokes are in the front garden, well away from all the other
foodstuffs except rhubarb and the other artichokes.

You made me realise that I've never seen an ant in this area and it's not
that we're too far north!

Off to Wales tomorrow, for two weeks or so. See you all when we get back.

Mary


regards
sarah


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We'll be drowning before too long
We're neck deep in the Big Muddy
And the damned fools keep yelling to push on

In article , Mary Fisher
writes



My one globe artichoke has the most amazing dense infestation of
blackfly. While the broad beans are completely clear, with only the
(very) odd confused ant wandering up and down the stems.

Golly, I've never seen blackfly on artichokes of either kind.

But my artichokes are in the front garden, well away from all the other
foodstuffs except rhubarb and the other artichokes.

You made me realise that I've never seen an ant in this area and it's not
that we're too far north!

We're too wet!
I don't have any either.

--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

In article , sw
writes

My one globe artichoke has the most amazing dense infestation of
blackfly. While the broad beans are completely clear, with only the
(very) odd confused ant wandering up and down the stems.

It is worth remembering that for useable artichoke production, globe
artichoke plants need to be replaced after 3 or 4 years. The plants can
be left in for ornamental display, but to get really good artichokes,
rooted offsets should be taken from the base in late autumn and new
plants propagated from them. It's also worth remembering that though
globes are relations of the wild thistle and thus real toughies, they
will produce artichokes a lot better in a sheltered spot. Their most
favoured habitat is in the Mediterranean region, but they can grow and
produce quite successfully in UK if given the right care.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

My one globe artichoke has the most amazing dense infestation of
blackfly. While the broad beans are completely clear, with only the
(very) odd confused ant wandering up and down the stems.


The one we have growing at school is also infested. So is the swiss chard
which started when it went to seed. Must remember to get the washing up
liquid out ;-)

Natalie

Alan Gould wrote

snip

It's also worth remembering that though
globes are relations of the wild thistle and thus real toughies, they
will produce artichokes a lot better in a sheltered spot. Their most
favoured habitat is in the Mediterranean region, but they can grow and
produce quite successfully in UK if given the right care.

My single artichoke plant (Green Improved, I seem to recall) was bought as a
couple of leaves from a garden centre. I didn't hold out much hope for it,
especially as it's doomed to live in a (large) pot, but it's doing really
well - lots of new leaves, and very healthy looking. Around 2 foot tall at
the moment. From what I've read, it's unlikely to produce much in the way of
a flower this year, but will hopefully do something next season. No bugs, no
slugs as yet (it's surrounded with pellets!). I bought a job lot of veggie
plants - the artichoke, a patio potato, a sweet pepper plant, a jalapeno
pepper, another chilli pepper, and mangetout - 6 plants for 15 euro. All
are doing much better than I expected, and I'll certainly buy from that
garden centre (Horkan's just outside Castlebar, Co. Mayo, Ireland) again
next year. Not particularly cheap, but I think good value anyway, as the
plants are doing so well.

Jo

Are these Jerusalem or Globe artichokes? I'm not sure which ones to buy
from the seed catalogues.

Globes, as everyone else has said.

Note you can get red globe artichokes as well as green, if you want a bit of
different colour...

- h

On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 07:04:36 +0100, Alan Gould
wrote:

they
will produce artichokes a lot better in a sheltered spot. Their most
favoured habitat is in the Mediterranean region, but they can grow and
produce quite successfully in UK if given the right care.

The one seedling I planted on my allotment, far from sheltered, died
over winter.
If any of this years plants survive, how do I know when to pick the
heads? How can you tell they are ready?

Pam in Bristol

In article ,
(Alan Gould) wrote:

Their most
favoured habitat is in the Mediterranean region, but they can grow and
produce quite successfully in UK if given the right care.

I've seen them grown by farmers in Brittany

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com

In article , Pam Moore
writes
If any of this years plants survive, how do I know when to pick the
heads? How can you tell they are ready?

Globe artichoke heads should be picked as soon as or just before they
are fully developed - if they are left on the plant any longer than
that, the fleshy pad at the base of the petals, i.e. the artichoke, will
become fibrous and unpleasant to eat. That stage can be judged by
looking at the points of the petals on the head - when they begin to
harden or to open outwards, it is time to pick the head. If in doubt, it
is better to err on the early side. The stem which carried the head can
also be taken off at that time as far down as the next branching stem
carrying another head, or to the base of the plant.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 20:47:17 +0100, Pam Moore
wrote:

The one seedling I planted on my allotment, far from sheltered, died
over winter.

Pam in Bristol

Hi Pam, I'm in Bristol too and trying to grow Artichokes for the first
time. I'm also trying an allotment for the first time too and it's
quite a handful.

Good luck

Colin
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