On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 11:15:27 +0000, Tim Challenger wrote:

I have a garden gate over which I'd like to grow a rose on a trellis.
The wall/gate is north facing and gets sunlight early in the morning, but
nothing during the day of course.
The spot is also quite windy.
Winters here are quite cold, say like north England or Scotlandm, with
plenty of snow. The summers can be very warm.

Does anyone have any ideas for a rose that might feel at home here?
One with a scent would be nice but not vital. I'm a bit baffled by the
wealth of choice and don't really know where to start.

I have just completed a search for roses that would do well on a north
facing wall - In the end I went for:

(1) Zepherine Drouhin - 10ft, continuous, scented, OK north facing.

(2) Madame Alfred Carriere - 15ft, continuous flowering, scented, OK north
facing.

Also, I wanted white/pink/purple colours, for which the above two match.
I have just planted them this last week so I don't know how they will
perform. However, I did do a lot of research so I hope that will pay off!

Regards,

Paul.

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"Tim Challenger" "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote in message
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I have a garden gate over which I'd like to grow a rose on a trellis.
The wall/gate is north facing and gets sunlight early in the morning, but
nothing during the day of course.
The spot is also quite windy.
Winters here are quite cold, say like north England or Scotlandm, with
plenty of snow. The summers can be very warm.

Does anyone have any ideas for a rose that might feel at home here?
One with a scent would be nice but not vital. I'm a bit baffled by the
wealth of choice and don't really know where to start.

Thank you one and all :-)

I had assumed that climbing roses would not do well on a North wall.

Do they also manage O.K. in tubs, or is this pushing my luck too far?

I have a front concrete which is North facing.

Cheers

Dave R

P.S. if in tubs I could winter them on the South facing patio.

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Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at"@?.? writes
I have a garden gate over which I'd like to grow a rose on a trellis.
The wall/gate is north facing and gets sunlight early in the morning, but
nothing during the day of course.
The spot is also quite windy.
Winters here are quite cold, say like north England or Scotlandm, with
plenty of snow. The summers can be very warm.

Does anyone have any ideas for a rose that might feel at home here?
One with a scent would be nice but not vital. I'm a bit baffled by the
wealth of choice and don't really know where to start.

Just one word of warning. Everyone is recommending vigorous ramblers,
but you want this over a gate. We've just had to remove Alistair Stella
Gray from an archway over a gate (N side of house, sun in summer but not
in winter) as it's far too vigorous.

--
Kay Easton

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http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Mermaid has been mentioned, and it's a beatiful rose but
it is recommended for south and west facing walls as it is not
that hardy. Also, it's a whopper, maybe too vigorous for a gate.

I have Zepherine Drouhin and Madame Alfred Carriere, and
though they are both as yet young specimens, I would say that
Madame A.C. is healthier ( Z.D. seems to suffer from rust, and
benefits from spraying, which is hard if it's out of reach ).
Madame A.C. also is not IME best pleased with rain, the blooms
suffering a little and going brown at the edges in prolonged wet
weather.

However, I am in the southwest, which gets a lot of rain and rust.
On a plus note, in this area Madame A.C. seems semi-evergreen.
Neither rose seems to be terribly rampant, so OK for a gate.

Andy

Mermaid has been mentioned, and it's a beatiful rose but
it is recommended for south and west facing walls as it is not
that hardy. Also, it's a whopper, maybe too vigorous for a gate.

I have Zepherine Drouhin and Madame Alfred Carriere, and
though they are both as yet young specimens, I would say that
Madame A.C. is healthier ( Z.D. seems to suffer from rust, and
benefits from spraying, which is hard if it's out of reach ).
Madame A.C. also is not IME best pleased with rain, the blooms
suffering a little and going brown at the edges in prolonged wet
weather.

However, I am in the southwest, which gets a lot of rain and rust.
On a plus note, in this area Madame A.C. seems semi-evergreen.
Neither rose seems to be terribly rampant, so OK for a gate.

Andy

The message
from Kay Easton contains these words:

Just one word of warning. Everyone is recommending vigorous ramblers,
but you want this over a gate. We've just had to remove Alistair Stella
Gray from an archway over a gate (N side of house, sun in summer but not
in winter) as it's far too vigorous.

Eek !! :-(

Janet

The message
from Kay Easton contains these words:

Just one word of warning. Everyone is recommending vigorous ramblers,
but you want this over a gate. We've just had to remove Alistair Stella
Gray from an archway over a gate (N side of house, sun in summer but not
in winter) as it's far too vigorous.

Eek !! :-(

Janet

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:54:04 GMT, whilst Caruthers was creaming the
maids muffin, (to her great delight) this cracking one arrived from
Janet Baraclough.. not wishing
to put Caruthers of his stroke I decided to deal with it:

You could take a look at one called Alistair Stella Gray. It has
sprays of exquisite double buttery yellow flowers and performs over a
very long period, very hardy and healthy. It is scented but not very
strongly. Mine is growing in a very windy situation, on a cliff
overlooking the sea, on a northfacing trellis erected at the end of a
wind-tunnel.

Janet.

Once again she is at it. Alistair Stella Gray too vigorous by far.
Janet is full of chicken "diddley squat".
Life Saving Advice:

" You can always tell when a politician is lying.
Their lips move."
- Max Headroom

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:54:04 GMT, whilst Caruthers was creaming the
maids muffin, (to her great delight) this cracking one arrived from
Janet Baraclough.. not wishing
to put Caruthers of his stroke I decided to deal with it:

You could take a look at one called Alistair Stella Gray. It has
sprays of exquisite double buttery yellow flowers and performs over a
very long period, very hardy and healthy. It is scented but not very
strongly. Mine is growing in a very windy situation, on a cliff
overlooking the sea, on a northfacing trellis erected at the end of a
wind-tunnel.

Janet.

Once again she is at it. Alistair Stella Gray too vigorous by far.
Janet is full of chicken "diddley squat".
Life Saving Advice:

" You can always tell when a politician is lying.
Their lips move."
- Max Headroom

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:54:04 GMT, whilst Caruthers was creaming the
maids muffin, (to her great delight) this cracking one arrived from
Janet Baraclough.. not wishing
to put Caruthers of his stroke I decided to deal with it:

You could take a look at one called Alistair Stella Gray. It has
sprays of exquisite double buttery yellow flowers and performs over a
very long period, very hardy and healthy. It is scented but not very
strongly. Mine is growing in a very windy situation, on a cliff
overlooking the sea, on a northfacing trellis erected at the end of a
wind-tunnel.

Janet.

Once again she is at it. Alistair Stella Gray too vigorous by far.
Janet is full of chicken "diddley squat".
Life Saving Advice:

" You can always tell when a politician is lying.
Their lips move."
- Max Headroom

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:54:04 GMT, whilst Caruthers was creaming the
maids muffin, (to her great delight) this cracking one arrived from
Janet Baraclough.. not wishing
to put Caruthers of his stroke I decided to deal with it:

You could take a look at one called Alistair Stella Gray. It has
sprays of exquisite double buttery yellow flowers and performs over a
very long period, very hardy and healthy. It is scented but not very
strongly. Mine is growing in a very windy situation, on a cliff
overlooking the sea, on a northfacing trellis erected at the end of a
wind-tunnel.

Janet.

Once again she is at it. Alistair Stella Gray too vigorous by far.
Janet is full of chicken "diddley squat".
Life Saving Advice:

" You can always tell when a politician is lying.
Their lips move."
- Max Headroom

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:54:04 GMT, whilst Caruthers was creaming the
maids muffin, (to her great delight) this cracking one arrived from
Janet Baraclough.. not wishing
to put Caruthers of his stroke I decided to deal with it:

You could take a look at one called Alistair Stella Gray. It has
sprays of exquisite double buttery yellow flowers and performs over a
very long period, very hardy and healthy. It is scented but not very
strongly. Mine is growing in a very windy situation, on a cliff
overlooking the sea, on a northfacing trellis erected at the end of a
wind-tunnel.

Janet.

Once again she is at it. Alistair Stella Gray too vigorous by far.
Janet is full of chicken "diddley squat".
Life Saving Advice:

" You can always tell when a politician is lying.
Their lips move."
- Max Headroom

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:54:04 GMT, whilst Caruthers was creaming the
maids muffin, (to her great delight) this cracking one arrived from
Janet Baraclough.. not wishing
to put Caruthers of his stroke I decided to deal with it:

You could take a look at one called Alistair Stella Gray. It has
sprays of exquisite double buttery yellow flowers and performs over a
very long period, very hardy and healthy. It is scented but not very
strongly. Mine is growing in a very windy situation, on a cliff
overlooking the sea, on a northfacing trellis erected at the end of a
wind-tunnel.

Janet.

Once again she is at it. Alistair Stella Gray too vigorous by far.
Janet is full of chicken "diddley squat".
Life Saving Advice:

" You can always tell when a politician is lying.
Their lips move."
- Max Headroom

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:54:04 GMT, whilst Caruthers was creaming the
maids muffin, (to her great delight) this cracking one arrived from
Janet Baraclough.. not wishing
to put Caruthers of his stroke I decided to deal with it:

You could take a look at one called Alistair Stella Gray. It has
sprays of exquisite double buttery yellow flowers and performs over a
very long period, very hardy and healthy. It is scented but not very
strongly. Mine is growing in a very windy situation, on a cliff
overlooking the sea, on a northfacing trellis erected at the end of a
wind-tunnel.

Janet.

Once again she is at it. Alistair Stella Gray too vigorous by far.
Janet is full of chicken "diddley squat".
Life Saving Advice:

" You can always tell when a politician is lying.
Their lips move."
- Max Headroom

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:54:04 GMT, whilst Caruthers was creaming the
maids muffin, (to her great delight) this cracking one arrived from
Janet Baraclough.. not wishing
to put Caruthers of his stroke I decided to deal with it:

You could take a look at one called Alistair Stella Gray. It has
sprays of exquisite double buttery yellow flowers and performs over a
very long period, very hardy and healthy. It is scented but not very
strongly. Mine is growing in a very windy situation, on a cliff
overlooking the sea, on a northfacing trellis erected at the end of a
wind-tunnel.

Janet.

Once again she is at it. Alistair Stella Gray too vigorous by far.
Janet is full of chicken "diddley squat".
Life Saving Advice:

" You can always tell when a politician is lying.
Their lips move."
- Max Headroom