"Inge Jones" wrote in message
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all the birds, including the supposed
carnivors and insectivors, went for the white bread a neighbour threw
out.

A neighbour is always throwing such stuff (including cake) over the fence
for our hens. They won't touch it, I'm pleased to say, but I'm not pleased
about her doing it because our garden is managed organically and so are our
hens. And us, come to that.

As you said, why do people think that animals deserve what we discard?

Mary

On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 14:15:53 +0100, Inge Jones
wrote:

In article o.com,
says...
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 12:03:01 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous Sender
wrote:

On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 18:04:15 +0100, Inge Jones
wrote:

In article , alan@holmes-
g4crw.freeserve.co.uk says...

Unlikely, squirrels have no brains to use for thinking, the only
way to
stop them is to trap them and dispose of them.

Lol! I don't like them at all, but I think there will be increasing
wildlife in towns as long as there are people who think it's helpful
to
feed them.

Nothing wrong with helping wildlife. You feed your fat face dont
you?
the problem is that we are taking all the countryside over, where
else
is the wildlife to go?

I feed my own fat face (was it really necessary to make your comment
sound so aggressive?),

Was it really neccesary for you to blame the wildlife?

but it gets little help from squirrels.

It doesnt need to.

But
apart from the issues of justice I believe it is healthier for
wildlife
to forage for natural food rather than eat the selection of foods
humans
happen to have decided they'd like to distribute.

That's a matter of opinion I guess.

For example, a major source of food for everything from foxes to
birds
in this area is sliced white bread that a helpful person throws round
a
patch of grass near the supermarket every day.

During the most recent cold snap when the wildlife organisations
broadcast requests for us to put out food, I carefully obtained the
recommended feedstuffs for the species I know we have round here,
only
to have them left rotting as all the birds, including the supposed
carnivors and insectivors, went for the white bread a neighbour threw
out.

That's life. I hope you're not still putting it out to rot?

Wildlife needs introduction to a new food source. If that's the first
time you have ever given them food, then that is why it was left, they
dont trust the source.

They're still gathering bread now, and I can only hope they're not
feeding their chicks with it.

They dont, unless their is nothing else and I mean NOTHING else
available. Now is a time of plenty for good chick food.

Animals are just like us, they prefer unhealthy snacks to a balanced
diet; but is it helpful to them or to us to encourage that?

Wildlife doesnt live long enough to worry about unhealthy snacks.
Yes it is most helpful for us and them to encourage them.

On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 14:15:53 +0100, Inge Jones
wrote:

In article o.com,
says...
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 12:03:01 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous Sender
wrote:

On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 18:04:15 +0100, Inge Jones
wrote:

In article , alan@holmes-
g4crw.freeserve.co.uk says...

Unlikely, squirrels have no brains to use for thinking, the only
way to
stop them is to trap them and dispose of them.

Lol! I don't like them at all, but I think there will be increasing
wildlife in towns as long as there are people who think it's helpful
to
feed them.

Nothing wrong with helping wildlife. You feed your fat face dont
you?
the problem is that we are taking all the countryside over, where
else
is the wildlife to go?

I feed my own fat face (was it really necessary to make your comment
sound so aggressive?),

Was it really neccesary for you to blame the wildlife?

but it gets little help from squirrels.

It doesnt need to.

But
apart from the issues of justice I believe it is healthier for
wildlife
to forage for natural food rather than eat the selection of foods
humans
happen to have decided they'd like to distribute.

That's a matter of opinion I guess.

For example, a major source of food for everything from foxes to
birds
in this area is sliced white bread that a helpful person throws round
a
patch of grass near the supermarket every day.

During the most recent cold snap when the wildlife organisations
broadcast requests for us to put out food, I carefully obtained the
recommended feedstuffs for the species I know we have round here,
only
to have them left rotting as all the birds, including the supposed
carnivors and insectivors, went for the white bread a neighbour threw
out.

That's life. I hope you're not still putting it out to rot?

Wildlife needs introduction to a new food source. If that's the first
time you have ever given them food, then that is why it was left, they
dont trust the source.

They're still gathering bread now, and I can only hope they're not
feeding their chicks with it.

They dont, unless their is nothing else and I mean NOTHING else
available. Now is a time of plenty for good chick food.

Animals are just like us, they prefer unhealthy snacks to a balanced
diet; but is it helpful to them or to us to encourage that?

Wildlife doesnt live long enough to worry about unhealthy snacks.
Yes it is most helpful for us and them to encourage them.

In article ,
says...

If that's the first time you have ever given them food

If, if, if...

In article ,
says...

If that's the first time you have ever given them food

If, if, if...

The message
from "Mary Fisher" contains these words:
"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
...


squirrels ... the only way to
stop them is to trap them and dispose of them.

By eating them.

I don't *ALWAYS* agree with Mary, but IMO, she's spot-on here.

Mmmmmmm. Squirrel casserole.

--
Rusty
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The message
from "Mary Fisher" contains these words:
"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
...


squirrels ... the only way to
stop them is to trap them and dispose of them.

By eating them.

I don't *ALWAYS* agree with Mary, but IMO, she's spot-on here.

Mmmmmmm. Squirrel casserole.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

"jim" wrote in message
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 13:40:29 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Inge Jones2/4/04 3:22
@te xt.giganews.com
snip
It's okay to have peanuts but they should be in tough, small mesh,
feeders.
This means the birds only peck tiny bits off and don't take whole nuts
which
they then stuff down the throats of their hapless offspring, choking them
to
death.

Does this really happen? Has anyone ever found a dead chick with a
whole peanut stuck in its throat?

regards
jim

Well the RSPB has dismissed this worry, saying the birds seems perfectly
capable of knowing how and what to feed their young.
Duncan

"jim" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 13:40:29 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Inge Jones2/4/04 3:22
@te xt.giganews.com
snip
It's okay to have peanuts but they should be in tough, small mesh,
feeders.
This means the birds only peck tiny bits off and don't take whole nuts
which
they then stuff down the throats of their hapless offspring, choking them
to
death.

Does this really happen? Has anyone ever found a dead chick with a
whole peanut stuck in its throat?

regards
jim

Well the RSPB has dismissed this worry, saying the birds seems perfectly
capable of knowing how and what to feed their young.
Duncan

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
et...

"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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squirrels ... the only way to
stop them is to trap them and dispose of them.

By eating them.

I've never felt there was enough meat on them to even try.

Alan
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The message
from "Alan Holmes" contains these words:
"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
et...

"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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squirrels ... the only way to
stop them is to trap them and dispose of them.

By eating them.

I've never felt there was enough meat on them to even try.

There's plenty enough for a portion for one, or small portions for two.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
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On Thu, 27 May 2004 00:44:51 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from "Alan Holmes" contains these words:
"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
et...

"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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squirrels ... the only way to
stop them is to trap them and dispose of them.

By eating them.

I've never felt there was enough meat on them to even try.

There's plenty enough for a portion for one, or small portions for two.

You have to think of them as prawns, not much but there's nothing to
stop you having as many as you want.
I had incinerated quail in France once, that really was a waste of
effort. Quail flambee avec pomme allumettes. It looked more like a
miniature Joan of Arc bonfire than food.

martin wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 May 2004 00:44:51 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:
squirrels ... the only way to
stop them is to trap them and dispose of them.
By eating them.
I've never felt there was enough meat on them to even try.
I'm not sure how readily available rat poison such as Decon is in the UK but
in suburban America a great number of people put it out for the tree rats,
incorrectly called gray squirrels. For that reason I use them as fertilizer
for my irises and roses. Trap, shoot and bury is the only way to eliminate
the problem.

The message
from martin contains these words:

You have to think of them as prawns, not much but there's nothing to
stop you having as many as you want.
I had incinerated quail in France once, that really was a waste of
effort. Quail flambee avec pomme allumettes. It looked more like a
miniature Joan of Arc bonfire than food.

Allumettes, gentiles allumettes,
Allumettes, je te fumerai...

er

I'll get me coat.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

martin wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 May 2004 00:44:51 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:
squirrels ... the only way to
stop them is to trap them and dispose of them.
By eating them.
I've never felt there was enough meat on them to even try.
I'm not sure how readily available rat poison such as Decon is in the UK but
in suburban America a great number of people put it out for the tree rats,
incorrectly called gray squirrels. For that reason I use them as fertilizer
for my irises and roses. Trap, shoot and bury is the only way to eliminate
the problem.