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Old 27-05-2004, 05:42 PM
Jaques d'Alltrades
 
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The message
from martin contains these words:

You have to think of them as prawns, not much but there's nothing to
stop you having as many as you want.
I had incinerated quail in France once, that really was a waste of
effort. Quail flambee avec pomme allumettes. It looked more like a
miniature Joan of Arc bonfire than food.


Allumettes, gentiles allumettes,
Allumettes, je te fumerai...

er

I'll get me coat.

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Old 27-05-2004, 06:39 PM
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Allumettes, gentiles allumettes,
Allumettes, je te fumerai...


Ouch. Stop larking about.

Janet
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Old 27-05-2004, 08:20 PM
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In article ,
redclay writes

I've never felt there was enough meat on them to even try.

I'm not sure how readily available rat poison such as Decon is in the UK but
in suburban America a great number of people put it out for the tree rats,
incorrectly called gray squirrels.


I can understand that you dislike gray squirrels as much as you do rats,
and therefore prefer to call them tree rats; but I cannot understand why
you feel the name gray squirrel is 'incorrect' (apart from your spelling
of grey, that is). Granted, both rats and grey squirrels are rodents;
but so are red squirrels, and both red and grey squirrels are in the
squirrel family and in the same genus Sciurus (ie as closely related as
they can be without being the same species); whereas rats are in an
entirely different family. Calling a grey squirrel a tree rat is about
as accurate as calling your neighbour's tom cat a tree poodle.

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Old 10-10-2004, 10:38 AM
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"redclay" wrote in message
...

martin wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 May 2004 00:44:51 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:
squirrels ... the only way to
stop them is to trap them and dispose of them.
By eating them.
I've never felt there was enough meat on them to even try.

I'm not sure how readily available rat poison such as Decon is in the UK
but
in suburban America a great number of people put it out for the tree rats,
incorrectly called gray squirrels. For that reason I use them as
fertilizer
for my irises and roses. Trap, shoot and bury is the only way to
eliminate
the problem.


Would they be suitable as fertilizer for any other crop?

At present I leave them out for the foxes.

Alan

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Old 10-10-2004, 10:56 AM
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"redclay" wrote in message
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in suburban America a great number of people put it out for the tree rats,
incorrectly called gray squirrels.


Grey squirrels are Sciurus carolinensis, ie they are squirrels. They are
not rats, they are not related to rats.

You may have a perfectly valid value judgement that places them on a par
with rats, but your value judgement does not make it incorrect to call
them gray squirrels'. There is no validity in the name 'tree rat' other
than as an epithet which has gained wide currency.
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Old 10-10-2004, 11:20 AM
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"Kay" wrote in message
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"redclay" wrote in message
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in suburban America a great number of people put it out for the tree

rats,
incorrectly called gray squirrels.


Grey squirrels are Sciurus carolinensis, ie they are squirrels. They are
not rats, they are not related to rats.

You may have a perfectly valid value judgement that places them on a par
with rats, but your value judgement does not make it incorrect to call
them gray squirrels'. There is no validity in the name 'tree rat' other
than as an epithet which has gained wide currency.


Well said, grey squirrels are no more tree rats than rednecks are people
with red necks, or cormorants are really the black death, or sheep are
really maggots with wool. Perhaps people enjoy using such colourful phrases
about animals they don't like because the latter don't have access to PC
pressure groups or civil rights lawyers (fortunately!)


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Old 10-10-2004, 01:47 PM
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In article , George
writes
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:56:59 +0100, I found this from Kay
:

There is no validity in the name 'tree rat' other
than as an epithet which has gained wide currency.


They are nice cuddly little things.


You've tried this have you?

I suspect you've misunderstood my post. I was not expressing any view on
grey squirrels, merely commenting on incorrect use of language.
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You must be German, Kay. You have no sense of humor, you have completely
missed the point and you immediately go on the attack.

Hate to break it to you, babe, but squirrels are rodents just like rats.
Even though they are not as "ugly" as rats, they often do just as much
damage to property.

So why don't you go back to playing with your nuts?


"Kay" wrote in message
...


"redclay" wrote in message
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in suburban America a great number of people put it out for the tree

rats,
incorrectly called gray squirrels.


Grey squirrels are Sciurus carolinensis, ie they are squirrels. They are
not rats, they are not related to rats.

You may have a perfectly valid value judgement that places them on a par
with rats, but your value judgement does not make it incorrect to call
them gray squirrels'. There is no validity in the name 'tree rat' other
than as an epithet which has gained wide currency.
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Kay
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"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
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You must be German, Kay. You have no sense of humor, you have completely
missed the point and you immediately go on the attack.

Hate to break it to you, babe, but squirrels are rodents just like rats.
Even though they are not as "ugly" as rats, they often do just as much
damage to property.

So why don't you go back to playing with your nuts?


Here in UK squirrels are not as much of a pest as they are in merkinland.


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Old 10-10-2004, 05:34 PM
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squirrels are rodents just like rats.


That does not make a squirrel a "tree rat" any more than it makes a
beaver a "water rat"

Even though they are not as "ugly" as rats, they often do just as much
damage to property.


Quite irrelevant to my point.

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Old 10-10-2004, 07:50 PM
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:08:03 GMT, ex WGS Hamm wrote:

Here in UK squirrels are not as much of a pest as they are in
merkinland.


Depends which bit of the UK, round these parts greys are shot on
sight. This part of the UK mainland being one of the few places that
still has native Reds in residence.

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Old 10-10-2004, 08:50 PM
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"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
m...
You must be German, Kay. You have no sense of humor, you have

completely
missed the point and you immediately go on the attack.

Hate to break it to you, babe, but squirrels are rodents just like

rats.
Even though they are not as "ugly" as rats, they often do just as

much
damage to property.


Do learn something about the taxonomy of squirrels and rats before
making a fool of yourself.
They are not even in the same family, let alone in the same genus. The
word "rodent" covers a multitude of sins.

Franz


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Franz wrote "The word "rodent" covers a multitude of sins ..."

Shouldn't that be sinners?

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"David Hill" wrote in message
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Franz wrote "The word "rodent" covers a multitude of sins ..."

Shouldn't that be sinners?


True. {:-))

Franz


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Beaver aren't water rats. Nutria are!!!

You were making a point? Shirley you jest.

"Kay" wrote in message
...


squirrels are rodents just like rats.


That does not make a squirrel a "tree rat" any more than it makes a
beaver a "water rat"

Even though they are not as "ugly" as rats, they often do just as much
damage to property.


Quite irrelevant to my point.

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