A frog has taken up residence in a corner of my greenhouse under a pile of
old pots.

Should I evict him, or can I keep him as a handy organic bug-killer?

My greenhouse is not particularly frogproof, so he could probably get out,
but I'm also not confident of the brains of frogs - would he actually have
the sense to find a gap and leave, I wonder, if most of the area was
enclosed?

Frogs seem to me to move largely by random leaps hoping they are going
roughly in the right direction, but maybe they get nervous when I am
watching them ;-)

Victoria
--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
--

"Victoria Clare" wrote in message
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A frog has taken up residence in a corner of my greenhouse under a pile of
old pots.

Should I evict him, or can I keep him as a handy organic bug-killer?

My greenhouse is not particularly frogproof, so he could probably get out,
but I'm also not confident of the brains of frogs - would he actually have
the sense to find a gap and leave, I wonder, if most of the area was
enclosed?

Frogs seem to me to move largely by random leaps hoping they are going
roughly in the right direction, but maybe they get nervous when I am
watching them ;-)

Victoria

Well he got in so one presumes he could get out if he felt so inclined :~)

Maybe he will depart when it starts getting hot in the GH?

I assume you leave the door open in summer?
Jenny

"Victoria Clare" wrote in message
.205...
A frog has taken up residence in a corner of my greenhouse under a pile of
old pots.

Should I evict him, or can I keep him as a handy organic bug-killer?

My greenhouse is not particularly frogproof, so he could probably get out,
but I'm also not confident of the brains of frogs - would he actually have
the sense to find a gap and leave, I wonder, if most of the area was
enclosed?


My FIL had one in his green house for several years, off and on (may not
have been the same frog but I think it was). Initially he took it out and
put it in the garden wenevr he saw it but it always seemed to find its way
back again so he just left it to its own devices after a while.

--
Tumbleweed

Remove my socks for email address

Your frog is most likely a toad. Toads like similar places and are quite
capable of looking after themselves for years. We had one for twenty years,
I believe, before getting accidentally squashed. It can only do good and
unlike frogs they become quite tame and can accept food from your hand. He
will come and go as he pleases.
Best Wishes. N.E.Kernow.
"Victoria Clare" wrote in message
.205...
A frog has taken up residence in a corner of my greenhouse under a pile of
old pots.

Should I evict him, or can I keep him as a handy organic bug-killer?

My greenhouse is not particularly frogproof, so he could probably get out,
but I'm also not confident of the brains of frogs - would he actually have
the sense to find a gap and leave, I wonder, if most of the area was
enclosed?

Frogs seem to me to move largely by random leaps hoping they are going
roughly in the right direction, but maybe they get nervous when I am
watching them ;-)

Victoria
--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
--

"Victoria Clare" wrote in message
.205...
A frog has taken up residence in a corner of my greenhouse under a pile of
old pots.

Should I evict him, or can I keep him as a handy organic bug-killer?

My greenhouse is not particularly frogproof, so he could probably get out,
but I'm also not confident of the brains of frogs - would he actually have
the sense to find a gap and leave, I wonder, if most of the area was
enclosed?

Frogs seem to me to move largely by random leaps hoping they are going
roughly in the right direction, but maybe they get nervous when I am
watching them ;-)


Frog? or toad? aren't greenhouses a bit on the dry side for frogs?

It's a toad in ours. I found him after I dropped my pen and it went under
the duckboard. I don't know how long he'd been there but he must have had a
headache:-))

Anyway, he got in so he'll get out if he wants. leave him there to eat he
slugs.

Steve

"Victoria Clare" wrote in message
.205...
A frog has taken up residence in a corner of my greenhouse under a pile of
old pots.

Should I evict him, or can I keep him as a handy organic bug-killer?

My greenhouse is not particularly frogproof, so he could probably get out,
but I'm also not confident of the brains of frogs - would he actually have
the sense to find a gap and leave, I wonder, if most of the area was
enclosed?

Frogs seem to me to move largely by random leaps hoping they are going
roughly in the right direction, but maybe they get nervous when I am
watching them ;-)

Victoria
--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
--

Feel very priveledge indeed to have a frog/ toad in your greenhouse and do
everything to pamper him
The return will be a pest free greenhouse

In article ,
says...
Frogs seem to me to move largely by random leaps hoping they are going
roughly in the right direction, but maybe they get nervous when I am
watching them

I think they just do that when they're trying to get away from
something. They sort of crawl when they're trying to go somewhere
seriously.

Also they've got this really weird defence mechanism that's not much
good against humans (if they needed it against humans) They go black if
you start moving wood around that they're hiding under, but I think they
do that by shunting blood around to under the skin. Then when they
realise you've spotted them anyway, they can't actually jump away until
they've gone nearly green again

Toads are many times more brainy than frogs.
Place him on a table and if he jumps off~~ then a frog. A toad will walk
slowly to the edge and decide not to make such stupid decision!!
Best Wishes.
"Victoria Clare" wrote in message
.205...
A frog has taken up residence in a corner of my greenhouse under a pile of
old pots.

Should I evict him, or can I keep him as a handy organic bug-killer?

My greenhouse is not particularly frogproof, so he could probably get out,
but I'm also not confident of the brains of frogs - would he actually have
the sense to find a gap and leave, I wonder, if most of the area was
enclosed?

Frogs seem to me to move largely by random leaps hoping they are going
roughly in the right direction, but maybe they get nervous when I am
watching them ;-)

Victoria
--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
--

In article , JennyC
writes

"Victoria Clare" wrote in message
8.205...
A frog has taken up residence in a corner of my greenhouse under a pile of
old pots.

You sure it's a frog?
Usually it's toads that take up residence in greenhouses!!!
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason, put ransoms
at jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see

"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
.. .

"Victoria Clare" wrote in message
.205...
A frog has taken up residence in a corner of my greenhouse under a pile
of
old pots.

Should I evict him, or can I keep him as a handy organic bug-killer?

My greenhouse is not particularly frogproof, so he could probably get
out,
but I'm also not confident of the brains of frogs - would he actually
have
the sense to find a gap and leave, I wonder, if most of the area was
enclosed?


My FIL had one in his green house for several years, off and on (may not
have been the same frog but I think it was). Initially he took it out and
put it in the garden wenevr he saw it but it always seemed to find its way
back again so he just left it to its own devices after a while.


FWIW (because of all the posts below re toads) my FILs was definitely a
frog.

--
Tumbleweed

Remove my socks for email address

Jane Ransom15/4/04 7:11

In article , JennyC
writes

"Victoria Clare" wrote in message
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A frog has taken up residence in a corner of my greenhouse under a pile of
old pots.

You sure it's a frog?
Usually it's toads that take up residence in greenhouses!!!

And like most 'critters' he or she will have made their choice of abode -
probably a good food source as well as home comforts! I'd leave it alone
and be thankful. You'll be watering in there so there will be enough damp
and as long as you don't drastically re-arrange the greenhouse, there must
be enough shade, too.
The greenhouses here are always filled with birds, both nesting and flying
in and out for food. Somehow they always find a small chip out of a pane,
or a gap here or there they can use and are very happy with their exits and
entrances. Toads and frogs hide themselves in flower beds near the pond (I
surprised one about 2" long just the other day, when I was weeding) and I
think they do pretty much all sort themselves out. After all, their primary
interest is survival, so why would they enclose themselves in a potential
prison like a greenhouse if they felt unsafe? ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

"Victoria Clare" wrote in message
.205...
A frog has taken up residence in a corner of my greenhouse under a
pile of
old pots.

Should I evict him, or can I keep him as a handy organic bug-killer?

My greenhouse is not particularly frogproof, so he could probably
get out,
but I'm also not confident of the brains of frogs - would he
actually have
the sense to find a gap and leave, I wonder, if most of the area was
enclosed?

Frogs seem to me to move largely by random leaps hoping they are
going
roughly in the right direction, but maybe they get nervous when I am
watching them ;-)

If its a toad, they have amazing homing instincts.
I found several in an old wooden shed that I was repairing. I moved
them outside out of harms way, went for a cuppa and when I came back,
they were all back in the original locations.
Accept him. Think of the fortune in slug pellets that he will save
you.

--
ned

"Brian" wrote in
:

Your frog is most likely a toad.

No, it's definitely a frog, not a toad.

It jumps, it has smooth skin, it doesn't have those gorgeous eyes that
toads have.

For some reason we don't have many toads here, though we do have frogs and
newts. My old garden was all toads, so I can tell.

"Brian" wrote in news:407ed44a_1@mk-nntp-
2.news.uk.tiscali.com:

Toads are many times more brainy than frogs.
Place him on a table and if he jumps off~~ then a frog. A toad will walk
slowly to the edge and decide not to make such stupid decision!!

Yes I agree. If he were a toad, I'd be happy to leave him there in the
confidence that he would walk quietly away if unhappy.

However, he's definitely not a toad, he's a frog. When I found him he went
'GEBOINGGGGG' half way across the greenhouse.

My garden is terraced, and I'm a bit worried that he's accidentally
Geboinnnged from the pond level (in the middle) to the greenhouse level (at
the bottom) and can't work out how to get back up.

(There are several frogfriendly routes, but he looks a bit on the thin side
to me compared with our usual range of chubby amphibians so may be a bit
underpowered.)

Victoria
--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
--

Sacha wrote in
o.uk:

Toads and frogs hide themselves in flower beds near the pond (I
surprised one about 2" long just the other day, when I was weeding)
and I think they do pretty much all sort themselves out. After all,
their primary interest is survival, so why would they enclose
themselves in a potential prison like a greenhouse if they felt
unsafe? ;-)

Well, what made me wonder was that the other day my rabbits decided to move
their cardboard box. They do that from time to time, but this time they
moved it over the exit to their bedroom, and then they were stuck!

Luckily I wondered after a day or so why they weren't coming downstairs and
moved the box for them - by which time they were very thirsty and relieved
to see the hole reappear!

This gave me a new view of animal intelligence.

I'm reasonably sure that bunnies are brighter than frogs, so it made me
wonder if froggy would actually be able to work out which bit was the door
/ bottom vents and climb out where he had climbed in, given that I've had
to move things round in there to spring clean it, and he looks a bit on the
skinny side...

Victoria
--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
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