I have lots of coriander grown in the greenhouse. It is now approx 5"
tall. Something in the back of my mind tells me that if left in direct
sunlight it will shoot. Am I right? If so, what should I do? I have
thought of potting it (as I need it out of the greenhouse anyway) and
bringing it into the house where it's not so bright.
Your views valued,
Jonny

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:43:39 +0100, Jonny
wrote:

I have lots of coriander grown in the greenhouse. It is now approx 5"
tall. Something in the back of my mind tells me that if left in direct
sunlight it will shoot. Am I right? If so, what should I do? I have
thought of potting it (as I need it out of the greenhouse anyway) and
bringing it into the house where it's not so bright.
Your views valued,
Jonny

I posted a similar question a few seasons back, and yes direct
sunlight does seem to effect this yummy herb. Also using the Cilantro
variety (for leaf instead of seed growth) tends to stop bolting
.................. so pot it and put the pots outside in a shady place
;-)

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 06:59:39 +0100, Jack Ouzzi said:

] On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:43:39 +0100, Jonny
] wrote:
]
] I have lots of coriander grown in the greenhouse. It is now approx 5"
] tall. Something in the back of my mind tells me that if left in direct
] sunlight it will shoot. Am I right? If so, what should I do? I have
] []
] I posted a similar question a few seasons back, and yes direct
] sunlight does seem to effect this yummy herb. Also using the Cilantro
] variety (for leaf instead of seed growth) tends to stop bolting
] ................. so pot it and put the pots outside in a shady place
][]

I thought Cilantro was just another name for Coriander? In the US the
words are used interchangeably, I believe.

No advice from me on how to stop it from bolting. We use a lot in salads,
and so do several plantings. I've still got about a kg of seed frozen from
last year, in spite of using it at nearly every opportunity...

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No advice from me on how to stop it from bolting. We use a lot in salads,
and so do several plantings. I've still got about a kg of seed frozen from
last year, in spite of using it at nearly every opportunity...

You freeze coriander seed? That's a new one on me. I found it stays pretty
viable for planting if I keep it in a paper bag. For cooking, I doubt it's
lose much aroma at the rate you seem to use it.

--
Tim C.

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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 06:59:39 +0100, Jack Ouzzi
said:

] On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:43:39 +0100, Jonny
] wrote:
]
] I have lots of coriander grown in the greenhouse. It is now approx 5"
] tall. Something in the back of my mind tells me that if left in direct
] sunlight it will shoot. Am I right? If so, what should I do? I have
] []
] I posted a similar question a few seasons back, and yes direct
] sunlight does seem to effect this yummy herb. Also using the Cilantro
] variety (for leaf instead of seed growth) tends to stop bolting
] ................. so pot it and put the pots outside in a shady place
][]
I thought Cilantro was just another name for Coriander? In the US the
words are used interchangeably, I believe.
No advice from me on how to stop it from bolting. We use a lot in salads,
and so do several plantings. I've still got about a kg of seed frozen
from
last year, in spite of using it at nearly every opportunity...
Coriander, cilantro or Chinese parsley are one in the same and it bolts
during warm temperatures coupled with longer days. Pinching the beginning
seed heads helps little; new seed head shoots appear over night. Just enjoy
it fresh and try some in pots with morning sun only; it might work for you.
I never was successful but living in the South, summer morning sun is hot.

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:47:56 GMT, Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" said:

[]
] You freeze coriander seed? That's a new one on me. I found it stays pretty
] viable for planting if I keep it in a paper bag. For cooking, I doubt it's
] lose much aroma at the rate you seem to use it.
[]

Hi Tim,

I don't try and use the frozen stuff for planting, although it might work I suppose.
Freezing just keeps the flavour a little fresher, we find. Do the same with
green pepper corns (bought, not grown).

Nothing beats the fresh leaves, though.

-E
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 06:59:39 +0100, Jack Ouzzi
said:

] On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:43:39 +0100, Jonny
] wrote:
]
] I have lots of coriander grown in the greenhouse. It is now approx 5"
] tall. Something in the back of my mind tells me that if left in direct
] sunlight it will shoot. Am I right? If so, what should I do? I have
] []
] I posted a similar question a few seasons back, and yes direct
] sunlight does seem to effect this yummy herb. Also using the Cilantro
] variety (for leaf instead of seed growth) tends to stop bolting
] ................. so pot it and put the pots outside in a shady place
][]

I thought Cilantro was just another name for Coriander? In the US the
words are used interchangeably, I believe.

He's saying there are two sorts of coriander. They have very different
leaves. The one with wispy, hair-like leaves is grown just for the
seeds. Cilantro has much more substantial, flat green foliage and is
grown just for the leaves (very delicious fresh in Thai and Italian
recipes etc.)

Janet.

"Jack Ouzzi" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:43:39 +0100, Jonny
wrote:

I have lots of coriander grown in the greenhouse. It is now approx 5"
tall. Something in the back of my mind tells me that if left in direct
sunlight it will shoot. Am I right? If so, what should I do? I have
thought of potting it (as I need it out of the greenhouse anyway) and
bringing it into the house where it's not so bright.
Your views valued,
Jonny

I posted a similar question a few seasons back, and yes direct
sunlight does seem to effect this yummy herb. Also using the Cilantro
variety (for leaf instead of seed growth) tends to stop bolting
................. so pot it and put the pots outside in a shady place
;-)

The plain variety of coriander (coriandrum sativum) is grown for fresh
leaves used in cooking. However coriandrum sativum 'Morocco' is more likely
to bolt and therefore grown and let go to seed.

HTH

Nick
http://www.ukgardening.co.uk/

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:36:26 +0200, Emery Davis wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:47:56 GMT, Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" said:

[]
] You freeze coriander seed? That's a new one on me. I found it stays pretty
] viable for planting if I keep it in a paper bag. For cooking, I doubt it's
] lose much aroma at the rate you seem to use it.
[]

Hi Tim,

I don't try and use the frozen stuff for planting, although it might work I suppose.
Freezing just keeps the flavour a little fresher, we find. Do the same with
green pepper corns (bought, not grown).

Nothing beats the fresh leaves, though.

-E

I hadn't ever thought of that. I might give it a try this year.
--
Tim C.

"Emery Davis" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:47:56 GMT, Tim Challenger
"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" said:

[]
] You freeze coriander seed? That's a new one on me. I found it stays
pretty
] viable for planting if I keep it in a paper bag. For cooking, I doubt
it's
] lose much aroma at the rate you seem to use it.
[]

Hi Tim,

I don't try and use the frozen stuff for planting, although it might work
I suppose.
Freezing just keeps the flavour a little fresher, we find. Do the same
with
green pepper corns (bought, not grown).

Nothing beats the fresh leaves, though.

-E
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I freeze the chopped up leaves in a dry container and use it as fresh!

Works really well!

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:22:09 +0100, Steve Black wrote:

"Emery Davis" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:47:56 GMT, Tim Challenger
"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" said:

[]
] You freeze coriander seed? That's a new one on me. I found it stays
pretty
] viable for planting if I keep it in a paper bag. For cooking, I doubt
it's
] lose much aroma at the rate you seem to use it.
[]

Hi Tim,

I don't try and use the frozen stuff for planting, although it might work
I suppose.
Freezing just keeps the flavour a little fresher, we find. Do the same
with
green pepper corns (bought, not grown).

Nothing beats the fresh leaves, though.

-E
--
Emery Davis
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I freeze the chopped up leaves in a dry container and use it as fresh!

Works really well!

They go soggy when thawed out, but are ok for cooking. They do lose a lot
of that "fresh" aroma I find.
--
Tim C.

In article ,
Jonny wrote:
I have lots of coriander grown in the greenhouse. It is now approx 5"
tall. Something in the back of my mind tells me that if left in direct
sunlight it will shoot. Am I right? If so, what should I do? I have
thought of potting it (as I need it out of the greenhouse anyway) and
bringing it into the house where it's not so bright.

Tell us how you get on - we all want to learn :-)

I can't stop coriander from shooting.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:43:39 +0100, Jonny
wrote:

I have lots of coriander grown in the greenhouse. It is now approx 5"
tall. Something in the back of my mind tells me that if left in direct
sunlight it will shoot. Am I right? If so, what should I do? I have
thought of potting it (as I need it out of the greenhouse anyway) and
bringing it into the house where it's not so bright.

Coriander/cilantro is fairly short-lived for culinary use anyhow. It's
not like basil where you can snip small branches and have it branch
and become bushier. I've often bought bunches in the grocery that are
20 or more individual plants with root attached. That is, commercially
the plant is grown to optimum leafiness (8-10" tall) and then
harvested whole. Recommended procedure if you like to have the leaves
for recipes is to start new plants from seed every couple of weeks and
use them before they 'shoot' (we call it 'bolt'). Of course, if you
let them go to seed, you have a lot of coriander seed for cooking or
(re)planting.

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:36:27 +0200, Emery Davis
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 06:59:39 +0100, Jack Ouzzi said:

] On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:43:39 +0100, Jonny
] wrote:
]
] I have lots of coriander grown in the greenhouse. It is now approx 5"
] tall. Something in the back of my mind tells me that if left in direct
] sunlight it will shoot. Am I right? If so, what should I do? I have
] []
] I posted a similar question a few seasons back, and yes direct
] sunlight does seem to effect this yummy herb. Also using the Cilantro
] variety (for leaf instead of seed growth) tends to stop bolting
] ................. so pot it and put the pots outside in a shady place
][]

I thought Cilantro was just another name for Coriander? In the US the
words are used interchangeably, I believe.

We pretty much use 'coriander' to mean the seed-used-as-spice, and
'cilantro' for the leaves-used-as...leaves. To me, when cilantro
bolts, it produces coriander seeds. I'm pretty happy with either
nomenclature. BTW, cilantro/coriander likes sun; it's heat that
makes it bolt.

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:16:48 +0100, Janet Baraclough.. said:

] The message
] from Emery Davis contains these words:
[snip]
] I thought Cilantro was just another name for Coriander? In the US the
] words are used interchangeably, I believe.
]
] He's saying there are two sorts of coriander. They have very different
] leaves. The one with wispy, hair-like leaves is grown just for the
] seeds. Cilantro has much more substantial, flat green foliage and is
] grown just for the leaves (very delicious fresh in Thai and Italian
] recipes etc.)
]
] Janet.

Hello Janet,

Took me a while to collect my books and reply! Just trying to work out
if I have seen these 2 species, and the common usage of the term cilantro
vs. coriander.

My RHS herbs encyclopedia lists Coriandrum sativum only, with the common
names of "Chinese Parsley, Coriander, Cilantro." From this I take it that
the plant is known by either etiquette commonly, or perhaps regionally,
as was my original contention.

The excellent (IMHO) Jekka McVicar, in "Jekka's Complete Herb Book" lists
the basic plant and in addition 2 cultivars: 'Cilantro' and 'Morocco.' Jekka
describes Coriandrun sativum as "very good for leaf production" and says
of the 'Cilantro' variety "also suitable for leaf production," whereas 'Morocco'
is described as "best for seed production." I guess this latter is what you
are referring to as having the different leaf structure? Or perhaps, are
you saying that the 'Cilantro' variety doesn't develop the smaller upper
leaves seen on the "regular" sativum, before it fruits?

In both the RHS and Jekka, the pictures of the common plant are what I
have seen regionally referred to as coriander or cilantro, interchangeably.
I don't recall ever seeing the 'Morocco' variety at all.

My other herb text, by Ian Thomas, includes this helpful maxim: "The whole
plant has the smell of rancid fat, some say of bugs. The large waxy seeds ...
also have this smell until they are ripe." He also includes this quote from
Martyn's "Flora Russica" (1792): "The leaves of Coriander have a strong
disagreeable scent..."

I love coriander, the green seeds are spectacular in soups. Rancid fat, indeed!

cheers,

-E
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