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Started germinating early this year. The seeds are at least 3 - 5 years
old, and were stored in the refrigerator. The peas came on so fast that I need to find my soil thermometer to see how close I am to transplant, or re-pot. I almost totally lost a few lettuce potting cells to neglect, but they have bounced back with watering. Brandywine, Green Zebra, and Stupice tomatoes, squash, and cucumbers have shown themselves from last Sundays planting. The peppers, typically, will take another week to show. I may have walked myself out on a limb with germinating so soon, but as we all know, there aren't any mistakes, just experiments. Week-end work: prepping the lettuce bed, and replacing a Washington orange tree that hasn't even flowered in the last 5 years, and replacing it with an apricot. Maybe I can pot the orange and see if that works. In any event, the jihad begins. -- Welcome to the New America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg or E Pluribus Unum Next time vote Green Party |
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Billy wrote:
Started germinating early this year. The seeds are at least 3 - 5 years old, and were stored in the refrigerator. The peas came on so fast that I need to find my soil thermometer to see how close I am to transplant, or re-pot. I almost totally lost a few lettuce potting cells to neglect, but they have bounced back with watering. Brandywine, Green Zebra, and Stupice tomatoes, squash, and cucumbers have shown themselves from last Sundays planting. The peppers, typically, will take another week to show. I may have walked myself out on a limb with germinating so soon, but as we all know, there aren't any mistakes, just experiments. Week-end work: prepping the lettuce bed, and replacing a Washington orange tree that hasn't even flowered in the last 5 years, and replacing it with an apricot. Maybe I can pot the orange and see if that works. In any event, the jihad begins. I am starting my winter stuff next week. The summer veges are still producing well. I will have to give away beans this week. We have had heavy rain, a torrent was running through the garden and it's on a hillside! As of this morning up north a bit at a little place called Dorrigo they had had 393mm of rain in 24 hours, that's 15 1/2 inches for those who use ells, fathoms and other archaic measures. My river is flooding, where I pump water from is about 8m (17 cubits) under, the pump is of course in the shed, the ends of the pipes will be floating through the tops of the trees. D |
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Rick wrote:
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:47:30 +1100, "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Billy wrote: Started germinating early this year. The seeds are at least 3 - 5 years old, and were stored in the refrigerator. The peas came on so fast that I need to find my soil thermometer to see how close I am to transplant, or re-pot. I almost totally lost a few lettuce potting cells to neglect, but they have bounced back with watering. Brandywine, Green Zebra, and Stupice tomatoes, squash, and cucumbers have shown themselves from last Sundays planting. The peppers, typically, will take another week to show. I may have walked myself out on a limb with germinating so soon, but as we all know, there aren't any mistakes, just experiments. Week-end work: prepping the lettuce bed, and replacing a Washington orange tree that hasn't even flowered in the last 5 years, and replacing it with an apricot. Maybe I can pot the orange and see if that works. In any event, the jihad begins. I am starting my winter stuff next week. The summer veges are still producing well. I will have to give away beans this week. We have had heavy rain, a torrent was running through the garden and it's on a hillside! As of this morning up north a bit at a little place called Dorrigo they had had 393mm of rain in 24 hours, that's 15 1/2 inches for those who use ells, fathoms and other archaic measures. My river is flooding, where I pump water from is about 8m (17 cubits) under, the pump is of course in the shed, the ends of the pipes will be floating through the tops of the trees. D I've seen a lot of "pro-metric" posts in various places lately. Being a scientist I readily convert back and forth. Still I have a fondness for pecks, bushels, quarts and pints etc. I'd rather have a pint of beer than 475 mls (well OK a pint is only 473.176473 ml) g. When cooking it's cups and teaspoons for me- at the bench, grams and microliters... It is no problem for me to convert either. I suspect that all countries, including those where metric has been well adopted, keep remnants of traditional measures in odd places. Here real estate is almost always measured in acres as well as hectares but rods, poles and perches have gone for good unless you are consulting old plans. My daughters who grew up on metric have no problem knowing what is meant if somebody says 'about an inch' or 'a foot' and they might occasionally use such themselves. I agree that beer should be served in a named vessel, whether it be middy, pint, schooner, jug, pot or whatever. I see no reason to abandon such quirks but that has nothing much to do communicating things like rainfall. Where I have the problem is those who can't be bothered to learn _anything_ about metric measure and who, on international forums, act as if metric measure is some kind of weird thing used only by the minority and geeks, when the reality is the reverse. But back to gardens, the flood is gone and the veges have drained, the fig tree is now out of the river and the sun is shining. I will go down after breakfast and see if my irrigation pipes were fastened as strongly as I wanted. The grass will leap out of the ground this week and all is right with the world. David |
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Rick wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:47:30 +1100, "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Billy wrote: Started germinating early this year. The seeds are at least 3 - 5 years old, and were stored in the refrigerator. The peas came on so fast that I need to find my soil thermometer to see how close I am to transplant, or re-pot. I almost totally lost a few lettuce potting cells to neglect, but they have bounced back with watering. Brandywine, Green Zebra, and Stupice tomatoes, squash, and cucumbers have shown themselves from last Sundays planting. The peppers, typically, will take another week to show. I may have walked myself out on a limb with germinating so soon, but as we all know, there aren't any mistakes, just experiments. Week-end work: prepping the lettuce bed, and replacing a Washington orange tree that hasn't even flowered in the last 5 years, and replacing it with an apricot. Maybe I can pot the orange and see if that works. In any event, the jihad begins. I am starting my winter stuff next week. The summer veges are still producing well. I will have to give away beans this week. We have had heavy rain, a torrent was running through the garden and it's on a hillside! As of this morning up north a bit at a little place called Dorrigo they had had 393mm of rain in 24 hours, that's 15 1/2 inches for those who use ells, fathoms and other archaic measures. My river is flooding, where I pump water from is about 8m (17 cubits) under, the pump is of course in the shed, the ends of the pipes will be floating through the tops of the trees. D I've seen a lot of "pro-metric" posts in various places lately. Being a scientist I readily convert back and forth. Still I have a fondness for pecks, bushels, quarts and pints etc. I'd rather have a pint of beer than 475 mls (well OK a pint is only 473.176473 ml) g. When cooking it's cups and teaspoons for me- at the bench, grams and microliters... You'll have to excuse David, he never had the disadvantages of an American education. The least educated illegal immigrant has a better grasp of the metric system than your average American bigot. Know what you mean about pre-metric. I far prefer un Distingue (fr.), or eine Mass (de.) to a pint, but when you go to party, you go with the beer you got, not with the beer you want. Sounds like you need one of those assault pipettes that can hold at least 100 ml. Remember, He is not drunk, who from the floor can rise again and drink some more, but he is drunk who prostrate lies, and cannot drink, and cannot rise. - Stiles Tavern, 1778 -- Welcome to the New America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg or E Pluribus Unum Next time vote Green Party |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote: Rick wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:47:30 +1100, "David Hare-Scott" wrote: David, those were lemons you were trying to preserve awhile back, weren't they? How'd you ever make out with them? I'm on my way back to zesting and juicing. Billy wrote: Started germinating early this year. The seeds are at least 3 - 5 years old, and were stored in the refrigerator. The peas came on so fast that I need to find my soil thermometer to see how close I am to transplant, or re-pot. I almost totally lost a few lettuce potting cells to neglect, but they have bounced back with watering. Brandywine, Green Zebra, and Stupice tomatoes, squash, and cucumbers have shown themselves from last Sundays planting. The peppers, typically, will take another week to show. I may have walked myself out on a limb with germinating so soon, but as we all know, there aren't any mistakes, just experiments. Week-end work: prepping the lettuce bed, and replacing a Washington orange tree that hasn't even flowered in the last 5 years, and replacing it with an apricot. Maybe I can pot the orange and see if that works. In any event, the jihad begins. I am starting my winter stuff next week. The summer veges are still producing well. I will have to give away beans this week. We have had heavy rain, a torrent was running through the garden and it's on a hillside! As of this morning up north a bit at a little place called Dorrigo they had had 393mm of rain in 24 hours, that's 15 1/2 inches for those who use ells, fathoms and other archaic measures. My river is flooding, where I pump water from is about 8m (17 cubits) under, the pump is of course in the shed, the ends of the pipes will be floating through the tops of the trees. D I've seen a lot of "pro-metric" posts in various places lately. Being a scientist I readily convert back and forth. Still I have a fondness for pecks, bushels, quarts and pints etc. I'd rather have a pint of beer than 475 mls (well OK a pint is only 473.176473 ml) g. When cooking it's cups and teaspoons for me- at the bench, grams and microliters... It is no problem for me to convert either. I suspect that all countries, including those where metric has been well adopted, keep remnants of traditional measures in odd places. Here real estate is almost always measured in acres as well as hectares but rods, poles and perches have gone for good unless you are consulting old plans. My daughters who grew up on metric have no problem knowing what is meant if somebody says 'about an inch' or 'a foot' and they might occasionally use such themselves. I agree that beer should be served in a named vessel, whether it be middy, pint, schooner, jug, pot or whatever. I see no reason to abandon such quirks but that has nothing much to do communicating things like rainfall. Where I have the problem is those who can't be bothered to learn _anything_ about metric measure and who, on international forums, act as if metric measure is some kind of weird thing used only by the minority and geeks, when the reality is the reverse. But back to gardens, the flood is gone and the veges have drained, the fig tree is now out of the river and the sun is shining. I will go down after breakfast and see if my irrigation pipes were fastened as strongly as I wanted. The grass will leap out of the ground this week and all is right with the world. David -- Welcome to the New America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg or E Pluribus Unum Next time vote Green Party |
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using surplus lemons
Billy wrote:
In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Rick wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:47:30 +1100, "David Hare-Scott" wrote: David, those were lemons you were trying to preserve awhile back, weren't they? How'd you ever make out with them? I'm on my way back to zesting and juicing. I used several ways: - Morrocan preserved lemons these are really nice as a garnish but you only need one jar a year so it doesn't use up many; - frozen juice cubes and frozen zest sausages, roll the zest in plastic film and freeze, keeps for ages, open the end cut some off and re-seal; - lemon cordial, I love this, lemonade at any time of year, so much more flavour than the commercial stuff and cheap, the recipe is simple if you are interested. D |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote: Billy wrote: In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Rick wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:47:30 +1100, "David Hare-Scott" wrote: David, those were lemons you were trying to preserve awhile back, weren't they? How'd you ever make out with them? I'm on my way back to zesting and juicing. I used several ways: - Morrocan preserved lemons these are really nice as a garnish but you only need one jar a year so it doesn't use up many; - frozen juice cubes and frozen zest sausages, roll the zest in plastic film and freeze, keeps for ages, open the end cut some off and re-seal; - lemon cordial, I love this, lemonade at any time of year, so much more flavour than the commercial stuff and cheap, the recipe is simple if you are interested. D Thanks, David. I looked at recipes for the above. I'm supposed to avoid salt, which leaves out the very interesting Morrocan preserves, and I've opted for limoncello, instead of the cordial, because only the "bottle in use" has to be in the fridge. Otherwise, it's ice cubes, and frozen zest, as you say. I'm a bit pressed to process the lemons (one 5 gallon bucket), because I harvested 2 weeks ago, and I've already lost half a dozen to mold. Another option I found for a few of the lemons is candied lemon slices. Candied Meyer Lemons 4 meyer lemons, sliced thin 1 cup granulated sugar 1 cup water Bring the sugar and water to a boil on the stove. Reduce heat to simmer and drop in the lemon slices. Simmer for 15-20 minutes, until slices turn translucent. Drain and cool on wax paper before storing in the fridge. Not sure what to do about the seeds. I'll just swallow them I suppose. How have the frozen cubes of lemon juice worked out for you? Do they stay separate, or do they eventually fuse into one giant blob? It would be great to have them when the hot weather finally arrives, in about 4 months. My wife is already making plans for them, and some of the mint. -- Welcome to the New America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg or E Pluribus Unum Next time vote Green Party |
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Billy wrote:
In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Billy wrote: In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Rick wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:47:30 +1100, "David Hare-Scott" wrote: David, those were lemons you were trying to preserve awhile back, weren't they? How'd you ever make out with them? I'm on my way back to zesting and juicing. I used several ways: - Morrocan preserved lemons these are really nice as a garnish but you only need one jar a year so it doesn't use up many; - frozen juice cubes and frozen zest sausages, roll the zest in plastic film and freeze, keeps for ages, open the end cut some off and re-seal; - lemon cordial, I love this, lemonade at any time of year, so much more flavour than the commercial stuff and cheap, the recipe is simple if you are interested. D Thanks, David. I looked at recipes for the above. I'm supposed to avoid salt, which leaves out the very interesting Morrocan preserves, and I've opted for limoncello, instead of the cordial, because only the "bottle in use" has to be in the fridge. My cordial does not require refrigeration, the low pH of the juice and high osmotic strength of the sugar allows it to keep indefinitely at room temperature. Wash and dry lemons. Zest them collecting only the yellow, then juice them. Measure the juice into an enamel of SS pot large enough to hold the juice and sugar. Add zest and bring to the boil. Add the same volume of sugar as juice, return to the boil and boil gently 10 minutes stirring. Bottle hot in clean dry bottles with a good lid, I use washed PET softdrink bottles. The bottle in use doesn't require refrigeration either. To serve add one finger to a tall glass with ice, fill with soda water, stir, garnish with a fresh lemon slice if you like. Otherwise, it's ice cubes, and frozen zest, as you say. I'm a bit pressed to process the lemons (one 5 gallon bucket), because I harvested 2 weeks ago, and I've already lost half a dozen to mold. Another option I found for a few of the lemons is candied lemon slices. Candied Meyer Lemons 4 meyer lemons, sliced thin 1 cup granulated sugar 1 cup water Bring the sugar and water to a boil on the stove. Reduce heat to simmer and drop in the lemon slices. Simmer for 15-20 minutes, until slices turn translucent. Drain and cool on wax paper before storing in the fridge. Not sure what to do about the seeds. I'll just swallow them I suppose. How have the frozen cubes of lemon juice worked out for you? Do they stay separate, or do they eventually fuse into one giant blob? They merge but are not difficult to separate. It would be great to have them when the hot weather finally arrives, in about 4 months. My wife is already making plans for them, and some of the mint. David |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote: Billy wrote: In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Billy wrote: In article , "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Rick wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:47:30 +1100, "David Hare-Scott" wrote: David, those were lemons you were trying to preserve awhile back, weren't they? How'd you ever make out with them? I'm on my way back to zesting and juicing. I used several ways: - Morrocan preserved lemons these are really nice as a garnish but you only need one jar a year so it doesn't use up many; - frozen juice cubes and frozen zest sausages, roll the zest in plastic film and freeze, keeps for ages, open the end cut some off and re-seal; - lemon cordial, I love this, lemonade at any time of year, so much more flavour than the commercial stuff and cheap, the recipe is simple if you are interested. D Thanks, David. I looked at recipes for the above. I'm supposed to avoid salt, which leaves out the very interesting Morrocan preserves, and I've opted for limoncello, instead of the cordial, because only the "bottle in use" has to be in the fridge. My cordial does not require refrigeration, the low pH of the juice and high osmotic strength of the sugar allows it to keep indefinitely at room temperature. Wash and dry lemons. Zest them collecting only the yellow, then juice them. Measure the juice into an enamel of SS pot large enough to hold the juice and sugar. Add zest and bring to the boil. Add the same volume of sugar as juice, return to the boil and boil gently 10 minutes stirring. Bottle hot in clean dry bottles with a good lid, I use washed PET softdrink bottles. The bottle in use doesn't require refrigeration either. Good to know. Thanks. To serve add one finger to a tall glass with ice, fill with soda water, stir, garnish with a fresh lemon slice if you like. Otherwise, it's ice cubes, and frozen zest, as you say. I'm a bit pressed to process the lemons (one 5 gallon bucket), because I harvested 2 weeks ago, and I've already lost half a dozen to mold. Another option I found for a few of the lemons is candied lemon slices. Candied Meyer Lemons 4 meyer lemons, sliced thin 1 cup granulated sugar 1 cup water Bring the sugar and water to a boil on the stove. Reduce heat to simmer and drop in the lemon slices. Simmer for 15-20 minutes, until slices turn translucent. Drain and cool on wax paper before storing in the fridge. Not sure what to do about the seeds. I'll just swallow them I suppose. How have the frozen cubes of lemon juice worked out for you? Do they stay separate, or do they eventually fuse into one giant blob? They merge but are not difficult to separate. It would be great to have them when the hot weather finally arrives, in about 4 months. My wife is already making plans for them, and some of the mint. David -- Welcome to the New America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg or E Pluribus Unum Next time vote Green Party |
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David Hare-Scott wrote:
.... We have had heavy rain, a torrent was running through the garden and it's on a hillside! As of this morning up north a bit at a little place called Dorrigo they had had 393mm of rain in 24 hours, that's 15 1/2 inches for those who use ells, fathoms and other archaic measures. My river is flooding, glad to hear you are getting some rain down there. you know me, i'm always up for a water diversion project. where I pump water from is about 8m (17 cubits) under, the pump is of course in the shed, the ends of the pipes will be floating through the tops of the trees. haha, cubits, ... songbird |
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Rick wrote:
.... I've seen a lot of "pro-metric" posts in various places lately. Being a scientist I readily convert back and forth. Still I have a fondness for pecks, bushels, quarts and pints etc. I'd rather have a pint of beer than 475 mls (well OK a pint is only 473.176473 ml) g. When cooking it's cups and teaspoons for me- at the bench, grams and microliters... pint is a varied measure. isn't it the Brits who use 20fl oz for the pint? songbird |
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songbird wrote:
Rick wrote: ... I've seen a lot of "pro-metric" posts in various places lately. Being a scientist I readily convert back and forth. Still I have a fondness for pecks, bushels, quarts and pints etc. I'd rather have a pint of beer than 475 mls (well OK a pint is only 473.176473 ml) g. When cooking it's cups and teaspoons for me- at the bench, grams and microliters... pint is a varied measure. isn't it the Brits who use 20fl oz for the pint? songbird Yes but their fluid oz is a different size so all is right with the world. Of course if we had been talking about a pint of beans the volume would have been different from beer. To show that serious drinkers have it sorted out across the atlantic a traditional whisky bottle in the US is the same volume as in the UK, being a fifth of a gallon and a sixth of a gallon respectively. To make things easy the former is called a fifth, the latter would be a sixth, right? No the latter is a reputed quart. Strangely a litre is the same anywhere in the world whatever you measure with it. How weird is that! David |
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Rick wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:31:34 +1100, "David Hare-Scott" wrote: songbird wrote: Rick wrote: ... I've seen a lot of "pro-metric" posts in various places lately. Being a scientist I readily convert back and forth. Still I have a fondness for pecks, bushels, quarts and pints etc. I'd rather have a pint of beer than 475 mls (well OK a pint is only 473.176473 ml) g. When cooking it's cups and teaspoons for me- at the bench, grams and microliters... pint is a varied measure. isn't it the Brits who use 20fl oz for the pint? songbird Yes but their fluid oz is a different size so all is right with the world. Of course if we had been talking about a pint of beans the volume would have been different from beer. To show that serious drinkers have it sorted out across the atlantic a traditional whisky bottle in the US is the same volume as in the UK, being a fifth of a gallon and a sixth of a gallon respectively. To make things easy the former is called a fifth, the latter would be a sixth, right? No the latter is a reputed quart. Strangely a litre is the same anywhere in the world whatever you measure with it. How weird is that! David Actually, it depends on the temperature and atmospheric pressure. A liter is only a liter under standard conditions. This applies to any liquid measure regardless of units, I was talking about the oddities of traditional naming of units. Interesting about thw whisky bottle sizes. However if the British really get 1/6 gallon they get over half a ml extra (under standard conditions of course)! Can any of the Banterers confirm if the rep quart is still in use in the UK? It hasn't been used here since metrication. I would expect it has now been rounded to 750ml, or if originating from the continent 700ml. D |
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... Rick wrote: ... I've seen a lot of "pro-metric" posts in various places lately. Being a scientist I readily convert back and forth. Still I have a fondness for pecks, bushels, quarts and pints etc. I'd rather have a pint of beer than 475 mls (well OK a pint is only 473.176473 ml) g. When cooking it's cups and teaspoons for me- at the bench, grams and microliters... pint is a varied measure. isn't it the Brits who use 20fl oz for the pint? An Imperial Pint is 20 oz so it's not just the Brits who use that measure. I can't even recall what the 16oz Pint system is called. |
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Rick wrote: On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:31:34 +1100, "David Hare-Scott" wrote: songbird wrote: Rick wrote: ... I've seen a lot of "pro-metric" posts in various places lately. Being a scientist I readily convert back and forth. Still I have a fondness for pecks, bushels, quarts and pints etc. I'd rather have a pint of beer than 475 mls (well OK a pint is only 473.176473 ml) g. When cooking it's cups and teaspoons for me- at the bench, grams and microliters... pint is a varied measure. isn't it the Brits who use 20fl oz for the pint? songbird Yes but their fluid oz is a different size so all is right with the world. Of course if we had been talking about a pint of beans the volume would have been different from beer. To show that serious drinkers have it sorted out across the atlantic a traditional whisky bottle in the US is the same volume as in the UK, being a fifth of a gallon and a sixth of a gallon respectively. To make things easy the former is called a fifth, the latter would be a sixth, right? No the latter is a reputed quart. Strangely a litre is the same anywhere in the world whatever you measure with it. How weird is that! David Actually, it depends on the temperature and atmospheric pressure. A liter is only a liter under standard conditions. Interesting about thw whisky bottle sizes. However if the British really get 1/6 gallon they get over half a ml extra (under standard conditions of course)! It would vary less than the "fill" in the bottle from your friendly giggle-water producer, and even less than the "pour" from your neighborhood publican. -- Welcome to the New America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg or E Pluribus Unum Next time vote Green Party |
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