....or *something*!

Even in So. Calif coastal, where it's usually mild, we're not
having much winter. Garden things are happening out of season.

For example, the leaves haven't even finished falling off my Wisteria,
when a few blooms already appear.

And my Cape Jasmine is flowering up a storm, way ahead of time.

I usually prune roses late January, so went ahead and did it,
but had to remove a lot of lovely, lush new foliage.

Any other "early" stories out there?

Persephone


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The unexamined life is not worth living.

Socrates

Persephone wrote:
...or *something*!

Even in So. Calif coastal, where it's usually mild, we're not
having much winter. Garden things are happening out of season.

For example, the leaves haven't even finished falling off my Wisteria,
when a few blooms already appear.

And my Cape Jasmine is flowering up a storm, way ahead of time.

I usually prune roses late January, so went ahead and did it,
but had to remove a lot of lovely, lush new foliage.

Any other "early" stories out there?

Persephone


--

The unexamined life is not worth living.

Socrates

Lost three roses last year (mid-Northern Ontario) because we had an
early spring thaw February/March that lasted three weeks - just long
enough to persuade the roses it was time to start setting buds. Then we
had what used to be normal March weather, a couple of weeks of around -5
to -10C overnight, with mostly below freezing days, too.

The really scary thing about climate change is that the models predict
that a climate flip or turnover sould happpen in less than a century.
That is, some reasonable sets of inputs into the models predict very
rapid climate changes, others sets (only slightly different) predict
slow changes. But we don't know enough about the present climate to be
able to say which sets of input assumptions reflect reality. So we're
stuck with guessing. We could have a mostly tropical planet by 2100. But
the ecosystems can't adapt that fast. So ---

Hay, I'm in S.Calf. and winter has ben long and cold and dry up in the high
mojave desert and only my iris are sending up any new fans, everything else
is still very much asleep.


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Persephone wrote in message ...
...or *something*!

Even in So. Calif coastal, where it's usually mild, we're not
having much winter. Garden things are happening out of season.

For example, the leaves haven't even finished falling off my Wisteria,
when a few blooms already appear.

And my Cape Jasmine is flowering up a storm, way ahead of time.

I usually prune roses late January, so went ahead and did it,
but had to remove a lot of lovely, lush new foliage.

Any other "early" stories out there?

Persephone


--

The unexamined life is not worth living.

Socrates

Upstate NY, zone 5:

My composter was frozen solid in early December, and full to the top. Now,
it's defrosted, and volume has reduced by half. I've never seen this happen
by January. Parsley's growing again, and a few crocuses have sent up
sprouts. They'll survive when frost returns, but I'm worried about some of
the perennials.

Here in W Pa the temperature is 60 and has been exceptionally warm most of the winter. We consider this a plus and count the days until March when the temperatures won't go below 25. Although global warming my be responsible for this warming trend. Global warming is a very serious happening and is not considered important by most governments, as they are only concerned with big business and not changing their way of polluting. Money talks, unfortunately.

"golddog" wrote in message
...

Persephone Wrote:
....or *something*!

Even in So. Calif coastal, where it's usually mild, we're not
having much winter. Garden things are happening out of season.

For example, the leaves haven't even finished falling off my Wisteria,
when a few blooms already appear.

And my Cape Jasmine is flowering up a storm, way ahead of time.

I usually prune roses late January, so went ahead and did it,
but had to remove a lot of lovely, lush new foliage.

Any other "early" stories out there?

Persephone


--

The unexamined life is not worth living.

Socrates

Here in W Pa the temperature is 60 and has been exceptionally warm most
of the winter. We consider this a plus and count the days until March
when the temperatures won't go below 25. Although global warming my be
responsible for this warming trend. Global warming is a very serious
happening and is not considered important by most governments, as they
are only concerned with big business and not changing their way of
polluting. Money talks, unfortunately.

Yeah, they remind me of the ol; Ostrich...head-in-the-sand...Here in the
wilds of WA. State, several Robins showed up last Tuesday. I have never
before seen them here this early. It's usually near the end of February
before they show up!

Regards,
Bill


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golddog

The message
from golddog contains these words:

Global warming is a very serious
happening and is not considered important by most governments,

Maybe you should check out something called the KYOTO treaty.

Janet

Janet, I amend my comments to include governments not taking global warming important to the US, Russia, China, and India. Although I believe Russia has signed on to the treaty, it will be decades before they make much difference in their polluting.

Persephone wrote:
...or *something*!

Global warming will actually make winters colder. Rising temperatures
will melt the ice caps, releasing fresh water into the ocean. This will
decrease the strength of the gulf stream, which is what brings warm air
from the equator up to the northern hemisphere during the winter. New
England and Europe are going to be hardest hit. In general, global
warming makes everything more extreme.

Here in Philadelphia, December was fairly cold, but this January,
temperatures have often been in the 50s, and it seems to make it to 60
once a week. My tulips and daffodils have already started coming up.

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from golddog contains these words:

Global warming is a very serious
happening and is not considered important by most governments,

Maybe you should check out something called the KYOTO treaty.

Janet

The concept of buying & selling pollution credits pretty much trumps any
pretty ideas everyone (except us) agreed to in that treaty.

The message
from "Doug Kanter" contains these words:


"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from golddog contains these words:

Global warming is a very serious
happening and is not considered important by most governments,

Maybe you should check out something called the KYOTO treaty.

Janet

The concept of buying & selling pollution credits pretty much trumps any
pretty ideas everyone (except us) agreed to in that treaty.

That's the US-govt fake excuse designed to justify their ostrich
stance to Americans. Taken from from the same
dusty-irrational-make-believe-justification shelf as " Saddam Hussein
had it coming because he was responsible for 9/11."

Janet.

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Doug Kanter" contains these words:


"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from golddog contains these words:

Global warming is a very serious
happening and is not considered important by most governments,

Maybe you should check out something called the KYOTO treaty.

Janet

The concept of buying & selling pollution credits pretty much trumps any
pretty ideas everyone (except us) agreed to in that treaty.

That's the US-govt fake excuse designed to justify their ostrich
stance to Americans. Taken from from the same
dusty-irrational-make-believe-justification shelf as " Saddam Hussein
had it coming because he was responsible for 9/11."

Janet.

Saddam *was* responsible for 9/11. A squirrel told me about it.

To set the record straight, Saddam was not responsible for 9/11. No matter what Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and Rush Limbaugh say.

Doug Kanter wrote:

Janet wrote.

That's the US-govt fake excuse designed to justify their ostrich
stance to Americans. Taken from from the same
dusty-irrational-make-believe-justification shelf as " Saddam Hussein
had it coming because he was responsible for 9/11."

Janet.

Saddam *was* responsible for 9/11. A squirrel told me about it.

Ha I heard about it from a monkey..........

"Thornhill" wrote in message
oups.com...

Persephone wrote:
...or *something*!

Global warming will actually make winters colder. Rising temperatures
will melt the ice caps, releasing fresh water into the ocean. This will
decrease the strength of the gulf stream, which is what brings warm air
from the equator up to the northern hemisphere during the winter. New
England and Europe are going to be hardest hit. In general, global
warming makes everything more extreme.

Here in Philadelphia, December was fairly cold, but this January,
temperatures have often been in the 50s, and it seems to make it to 60
once a week. My tulips and daffodils have already started coming up.


I love gardening too and have to laugh sometimes at the unscientific posts
that occur here at times. Some type of "global warming" caused the last
great ice age to recede too. How the heck did that happen? AND was it a
bad thing?