"Lady Blacksword" wrote in message

Who the hell still uses the old version???!!
Or are you trying to gently inform me that Travis is running an
ancient copy of Windows, pre outlook express?
If so, that's sad.
Murri

"Erik Vastmasd" wrote in message
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Lady Blacksword wrote in
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"Travis M." wrote in
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Outlook does not do newsgroups.

Oh Really? Then what I'm reading is a figment of my
imagination????!! Or is
it you, Travis, who is a figment?

Murri, Outlook doesn't do newsgroups, Outlook Express does
and is
a different programme.

ie: "X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180"

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Regards Erik Vastmasd

Vamoose troll.

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Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8
Sunset Zone 5

......... actually, removing others messages work well too as long as one stays away
from the "me too" answers. realistically, how often do people who are following a
thread NOT know what the topic is about. having already read previous posters I dont
usually need to see em again, hence they should be relegated to the bottom.
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Erik Vastmasd wrote:
Lady Blacksword wrote in of Sat,
4 Feb 2006 16:45:20 -0500:


"Travis M." wrote in message
news:fX8Ff.640$pY.461@trndny01...

Outlook does not do newsgroups.

Oh Really? Then what I'm reading is a figment of my imagination????!! Or is
it you, Travis, who is a figment?


Murri, Outlook doesn't do newsgroups, Outlook Express does and is a
different programme.

ie: "X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180"



Ok, OK, I'm sorry, I use Internet Explorer _only_ for updating Windows,
and I use no other Microsoft program, ever, so I've long forgotten what
they are, so it's my mistake, so get a life already. Please!

HTH

"Lady Blacksword" wrote in message
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"Travis M." wrote in message
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"Wolf Kirchmeir" wrote in message

wrote:
the first people on usenet were scientists and email was linear,
not packaged like it is now, further messages were THREADED like
it is now so we KNOW what the topic of the message is as we
scroll thru. I know cause I was there at the start. we didnt all
have puters at home and it would sometimes take days before we
got an answer to an email so it was pretty easy to forget what
the person was talking about. everyone is using readers that THREAD
messages, that is line up
the posts with the OP first and then replies as they come in,
right? the problem of bottom posting is the nesting
sequence....................

[snip]


The problem is the mix of top and bottom posting, the inconsistent
and/or careless snipping, etc.

NB that I snipped the rest of your post, which consisted of previous
posts that are more or less irrelevant to my answer to your comment.

There are newsreaders that will display threads in a tree when to
display threads. I don't know about Outlook, since I've never used
it.
HTH

Outlook does not do newsgroups.

--

Oh Really? Then what I'm reading is a figment of my imagination????!! Or
is it you, Travis, who is a figment?
Murri

You're using Outlook Express, not Outlook.

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Lady Blacksword" wrote in message
...
"Travis M." wrote in message
news:fX8Ff.640$pY.461@trndny01...
[...]
Outlook does not do newsgroups.

--

Oh Really? Then what I'm reading is a figment of my imagination????!! Or
is it you, Travis, who is a figment?
Murri

You're using Outlook Express, not Outlook.

OK, OK, I'm sorry I triggered this fight.

I don't use any MS program if I can help it, have never, ever used
Outlook or Outlook Express, and never will, in fact have removed as much
of Outlook/Outlook Express as I could, have removed all other MS
programs except Internet Explorer, since Microdaft insists on ActiveX
for updating, so I can't use Mozilla, so I didn't know that "Outlook"
isn't just a short form of "Outlook Express", which is what I thunk, but
refer to different programs, etc etc etc.

So kwitcherfitin, already!

In article ,
presley wrote:

"James" wrote in message
...

Global warming is a political issue. It's been around ever since they
talked
about a new ice age coming back in the 70s. They changed that because of
no
interest and global warming replaced it.

The "ice age" theory was never signed onto by the majority of climatologists
and earth scientists, because it didn't have sufficient data to support it.

Indeed, after some efforts into researching whether there as _any_ support
in the scientific community for the 'imminent ice age', it turns out
that the answer is no: http://www.wmconnolley.org.uk/sci/iceage/

The 'imminent ice age' claim was strictly a construction, to the extent it
existed at all, of media outlets, the most quoted being a newsweek article
from 1975 -- year of a particularly cold winter.

Global warming does have sufficient data and virtually the entire
climatology scientific community agrees that is is real. To pretend
otherwise reminds me of the current debate about evolution in the US, in
which the fundamentalists who favor creationism pretend that there are equal
numbers of reputable scientists on both sides of the question.

If you peruse the young earth creationist sites, you'll find quite
a lot of climate change denial as well.

--
Robert Grumbine http://www.radix.net/~bobg/ Science faqs and amateur activities notes and links.
Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much
evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they
would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences

In article .com,
Thornhill wrote:

djay wrote:
"Thornhill" wrote in message
oups.com...

Persephone wrote:
...or *something*!

Global warming will actually make winters colder. Rising temperatures
will melt the ice caps, releasing fresh water into the ocean. This will
decrease the strength of the gulf stream, which is what brings warm air
from the equator up to the northern hemisphere during the winter. New
England and Europe are going to be hardest hit. In general, global
warming makes everything more extreme.

Here in Philadelphia, December was fairly cold, but this January,
temperatures have often been in the 50s, and it seems to make it to 60
once a week. My tulips and daffodils have already started coming up.

I love gardening too and have to laugh sometimes at the unscientific posts
that occur here at times. Some type of "global warming" caused the last
great ice age to recede too. How the heck did that happen? AND was it a
bad thing?

If one 5 C warming was good, does that necessitate that another 5 C warming
will also be good? What definition of 'good' are you using?

The reason for the last glacial termination is one which offers little good
news. Milankovitch cycles (small variations in the earth's orbit on tens of
thousands of year time scales) have driven ice age cycles for the last 2.5
million years. For the last 700-ish ky, this has meant ice ages of something
like 100 ky duration, emphasis on the 'something like' as it's plus or minus
about 30 ky, depending on how the multiple cycles line up with each other.

The spans between major advances in northern hemisphere ice have been
something like 10 ky -- with similar variation (particularly long interglacial
about 400 kya). That has lead to the sound bite of 'we're due for an ice
age so _should_ be putting more greenhouse gases in the atmosphere to ward
it off'. The thing is, that's false. To the extent that Milankovitch
cycles are the control, we're due for another particularly long interglacial,
with another 50 or 70 ky to go :
Ledley, T. S. "Summer solstice solar radiation, the 100 kyr ice age cycle,
and the next ice age", Geophys. Res. Letters, 22, 2745-2748, 1995.

There's nothing unscientific about this. Lots of studies have been
done.

I'm not talking about another ice age, just weather patterns in the
northern hemisphere. The summers, like the rest of the world, will be
incredibly hot, but a weakened Gulf Stream will result in colder
winters.

... for areas of the northeastern Atlantic. The global picture is more
consistently for heating, even in winter.

--
Robert Grumbine http://www.radix.net/~bobg/ Science faqs and amateur activities notes and links.
Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much
evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they
would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences

"Wolf Kirchmeir" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Lady Blacksword" wrote in message
...
"Travis M." wrote in message
news:fX8Ff.640$pY.461@trndny01...
[...]
Outlook does not do newsgroups.

--

Oh Really? Then what I'm reading is a figment of my imagination????!! Or
is it you, Travis, who is a figment?
Murri

You're using Outlook Express, not Outlook.

OK, OK, I'm sorry I triggered this fight.

I don't use any MS program if I can help it, have never, ever used Outlook
or Outlook Express, and never will, in fact have removed as much of
Outlook/Outlook Express as I could, have removed all other MS programs
except Internet Explorer, since Microdaft insists on ActiveX for updating,
so I can't use Mozilla, so I didn't know that "Outlook" isn't just a short
form of "Outlook Express", which is what I thunk, but refer to different
programs, etc etc etc.

So kwitcherfitin, already!

I understand not using some MS stuff, but considering how cheap hard disk
space is these days, why do you waste time removing things? Just don't use
them.

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Wolf Kirchmeir" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Lady Blacksword" wrote in message
...
"Travis M." wrote in message
news:fX8Ff.640$pY.461@trndny01...
[...]
Outlook does not do newsgroups.

--

Oh Really? Then what I'm reading is a figment of my imagination????!! Or
is it you, Travis, who is a figment?
Murri
You're using Outlook Express, not Outlook.
OK, OK, I'm sorry I triggered this fight.

I don't use any MS program if I can help it, have never, ever used Outlook
or Outlook Express, and never will, in fact have removed as much of
Outlook/Outlook Express as I could, have removed all other MS programs
except Internet Explorer, since Microdaft insists on ActiveX for updating,
so I can't use Mozilla, so I didn't know that "Outlook" isn't just a short
form of "Outlook Express", which is what I thunk, but refer to different
programs, etc etc etc.

So kwitcherfitin, already!

I understand not using some MS stuff, but considering how cheap hard disk
space is these days, why do you waste time removing things? Just don't use
them.

Older machine, smaller HD, two OSs. Made the mistake of installing W2K
on a 2GB partition, which was touted as "minimum required." Shoulda
known better. Need W2K mostly for an estimating program my wife uses,
and use it for web access because Bell Sympatico doesn't play well with
OS/2. Bah! The "good" desktop runs on OS/2, and I've experimented with
Linux on it.

Currently debating whether to go to another notebook (for my wife -- I
have a Mac G4), or another desktop. I like desktops - I can tinker with
them easily. And there are some really good buys out there, of "old"
mobos that were cutting edge a mere 18 months ago.... H'm. OTOH, a
laptop would suit my wife just fine, she could take it to the office, etc.

Difficult....

In article ,
Doug Kanter wrote:

"Wolf Kirchmeir" wrote in message
.. .
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Lady Blacksword" wrote in message
...
"Travis M." wrote in message
news:fX8Ff.640$pY.461@trndny01...
[...]
Outlook does not do newsgroups.

--

Oh Really? Then what I'm reading is a figment of my imagination????!! Or
is it you, Travis, who is a figment?
Murri

You're using Outlook Express, not Outlook.

OK, OK, I'm sorry I triggered this fight.

I don't use any MS program if I can help it, have never, ever used Outlook
or Outlook Express, and never will, in fact have removed as much of
Outlook/Outlook Express as I could, have removed all other MS programs
except Internet Explorer, since Microdaft insists on ActiveX for updating,
so I can't use Mozilla, so I didn't know that "Outlook" isn't just a short
form of "Outlook Express", which is what I thunk, but refer to different
programs, etc etc etc.

So kwitcherfitin, already!

I understand not using some MS stuff, but considering how cheap hard disk
space is these days, why do you waste time removing things? Just don't use
them.

Because MS stuff still on the disk can be invoked by other MS stuff on
the disk, the OS included, whether you planned it to or not. Quite a few
attacks on Windows computers rely on this trait. If you don't want a given
MS program to be executed, you have to delete it.

--
Robert Grumbine http://www.radix.net/~bobg/ Science faqs and amateur activities notes and links.
Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much
evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they
would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences

"Robert Grumbine" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Doug Kanter wrote:

"Wolf Kirchmeir" wrote in message
. ..
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Lady Blacksword" wrote in message
...
"Travis M." wrote in message
news:fX8Ff.640$pY.461@trndny01...
[...]
Outlook does not do newsgroups.

--

Oh Really? Then what I'm reading is a figment of my imagination????!!
Or
is it you, Travis, who is a figment?
Murri

You're using Outlook Express, not Outlook.

OK, OK, I'm sorry I triggered this fight.

I don't use any MS program if I can help it, have never, ever used
Outlook
or Outlook Express, and never will, in fact have removed as much of
Outlook/Outlook Express as I could, have removed all other MS programs
except Internet Explorer, since Microdaft insists on ActiveX for
updating,
so I can't use Mozilla, so I didn't know that "Outlook" isn't just a
short
form of "Outlook Express", which is what I thunk, but refer to different
programs, etc etc etc.

So kwitcherfitin, already!

I understand not using some MS stuff, but considering how cheap hard disk
space is these days, why do you waste time removing things? Just don't use
them.

Because MS stuff still on the disk can be invoked by other MS stuff on
the disk, the OS included, whether you planned it to or not. Quite a few
attacks on Windows computers rely on this trait. If you don't want a
given
MS program to be executed, you have to delete it.

OK. I asked because sometimes, uninstalling software on Windows machines can
result in really hideous problems that you're never able to solve
completely, except by reformatting and reinstalling the OS, which isn't such
a bad idea anyway from time to time.

"Wolf Kirchmeir" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Wolf Kirchmeir" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Lady Blacksword" wrote in message
...
"Travis M." wrote in message
news:fX8Ff.640$pY.461@trndny01...
[...]
Outlook does not do newsgroups.

--

Oh Really? Then what I'm reading is a figment of my imagination????!!
Or is it you, Travis, who is a figment?
Murri
You're using Outlook Express, not Outlook.
OK, OK, I'm sorry I triggered this fight.

I don't use any MS program if I can help it, have never, ever used
Outlook or Outlook Express, and never will, in fact have removed as much
of Outlook/Outlook Express as I could, have removed all other MS
programs except Internet Explorer, since Microdaft insists on ActiveX
for updating, so I can't use Mozilla, so I didn't know that "Outlook"
isn't just a short form of "Outlook Express", which is what I thunk, but
refer to different programs, etc etc etc.

So kwitcherfitin, already!

I understand not using some MS stuff, but considering how cheap hard disk
space is these days, why do you waste time removing things? Just don't
use them.

Older machine, smaller HD, two OSs. Made the mistake of installing W2K on
a 2GB partition, which was touted as "minimum required." Shoulda known
better. Need W2K mostly for an estimating program my wife uses, and use it
for web access because Bell Sympatico doesn't play well with OS/2. Bah!
The "good" desktop runs on OS/2, and I've experimented with Linux on it.

Currently debating whether to go to another notebook (for my wife -- I
have a Mac G4), or another desktop. I like desktops - I can tinker with
them easily. And there are some really good buys out there, of "old" mobos
that were cutting edge a mere 18 months ago.... H'm. OTOH, a laptop would
suit my wife just fine, she could take it to the office, etc.

Difficult....

How old is "old"? It's amazing what more RAM can do for a computer. In fact,
it's the best way to spend upgrade money, followed by a larger hard disk,
and then a better video card (which is counterintuitive, but it really does
help, because of all the graphics on the web).

"Wolf Kirchmeir" wrote in message

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Wolf Kirchmeir" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Lady Blacksword" wrote in
message
...
"Travis M." wrote in
message
news:fX8Ff.640$pY.461@trndny01...
[...]
Outlook does not do newsgroups.

--

Oh Really? Then what I'm reading is a figment of my
imagination????!! Or is it you, Travis, who is a
figment?
Murri
You're using Outlook Express, not Outlook.
OK, OK, I'm sorry I triggered this fight.

I don't use any MS program if I can help it, have never,
ever
used Outlook or Outlook Express, and never will, in fact
have
removed as much of Outlook/Outlook Express as I could, have
removed all other MS programs except Internet Explorer,
since
Microdaft insists on ActiveX for updating, so I can't use
Mozilla, so I didn't know that "Outlook" isn't just a short
form of "Outlook Express", which is what I thunk, but refer
to
different programs, etc etc etc. So kwitcherfitin, already!

I understand not using some MS stuff, but considering how
cheap
hard disk space is these days, why do you waste time removing
things? Just don't use them.

Older machine, smaller HD, two OSs. Made the mistake of
installing
W2K on a 2GB partition, which was touted as "minimum required."
Shoulda
known better. Need W2K mostly for an estimating program my wife
uses, and use it for web access because Bell Sympatico doesn't
play well
with OS/2. Bah!

Why does it matter to the ISP what OS you are running, just as
long as it can do TCP/IP?

--


Travis in Shoreline Washington

even with all the snow we STILL have on the ground (after about 2 weeks of
rain and warm weather)...if i COULD MAKE MY WAY to the Rosa rugosae, i WOULD
trim them---they're needing pruning very badly as our first snow came about
2 months earlier than expected....and i don't mean a light dusting on the
ground: i mean ONE FOOT of white stuff. i was able to make SNOW ANGELS for
halloween!!!! ;o
nhz4a
--
With Malus toward none, and Cherry-Trees toward all.


From: Persephone
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:45:21 -0800
Subject: Global warming?

...or *something*!

Even in So. Calif coastal, where it's usually mild, we're not
having much winter. Garden things are happening out of season.

For example, the leaves haven't even finished falling off my Wisteria,
when a few blooms already appear.

And my Cape Jasmine is flowering up a storm, way ahead of time.

I usually prune roses late January, so went ahead and did it,
but had to remove a lot of lovely, lush new foliage.

Any other "early" stories out there?

Persephone


--

The unexamined life is not worth living.

Socrates

Robert Grumbine wrote:
In article ,
Doug Kanter wrote:
[..]
I understand not using some MS stuff, but considering how cheap hard disk
space is these days, why do you waste time removing things? Just don't use
them.

Because MS stuff still on the disk can be invoked by other MS stuff on
the disk, the OS included, whether you planned it to or not. Quite a few
attacks on Windows computers rely on this trait. If you don't want a given
MS program to be executed, you have to delete it.


Thanks, good point, I'd forgotten that (prob. because I haven't had a
serious infection in over a year. :-))