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How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "George.com" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... Reciprocal arrangements - I like that! Here's one: When dog owners license their little pets, they should be required to provide a DNA sample from the dog, and depost $1000.00 into an escrow account which we normal people can draw on when we need to have our carpets cleaned or replaced because your beasts crapped on our lawns. Now we're talking personal responsibility! Don't people take personal responsibility for protecting their own carpets by checking their own shoes when they come in from the garden (for mud, grass, water or oil, as well as dog dirt). ? Janet When I come home from "the outside world", of course I check my shoes, or more likely, remove them. On my own property, there is never spilled oil. If I'm gardening and it's muddy, I adjust my behavior. That's MY choice. Janet, you're a smart lady. Here's a statement: "I want to go outside at midnight, wander around my yard, look at the stars, and see if the moonflowers have opened". Please tell me what I said in that sentence. It's an exercise of sorts. First of all, we're talking about dogs on leashes, with people attached. Not strays - they are a separate issue that's easier to deal with. Onward: I *do* ask people not to stop their dogs on my grass, and I do so very politely. Unfortunately, some of them refuse to comply, which simply baffles me. Their logic is that the first 8 feet is "public property", which is completely untrue. The reality is that the town and the utilities have permanent easements which allow them to do certain types of construction or maintenance. As far as fences, two problems: First, you cannot erect a fence within that first 8 feet, so that leaves a pretty large area of property unprotected. And second, I can't afford a fence, nor should I have to. It's not for me to spend money in order to deal with other peoples' stupid behavioral problems. Doug, I will be honest but I am not doing so to antagonise you or overly antagonise you, I think you need to chill out a little, smoke some dope or whatever and not fixate so much on dog shit. I have clearly stated my approach to dog ownership and dog walking, it is a responsable approach. Other dog owners I know have the same standards, they are reasonable people. If you apply a test of reasonableness to my approach to walking mutts I think it will hold up well. Expecting people to pay $1,000 into an account for your carpets clearly is not reasonable. Either you are taking the **** or you are serious. If the former, I give you marks for cheekiness, if the latter then you fail the test of reasonableness. The state of your carpets are your responsibility. You can remove your shoes, you can buy a mat. You don't blame anyone else for your failure to check what you tramp in. Likewise, if you are clumsy enough to spill wine on your carpet you don't blame the maker of the glass for it being smooth or having a slender stem etc. Your choice, your responsibility. If my dog did, for some reason, crap on someones lawn I would take responsibility to remove it. My responsibility. Responsibilities, yours and mine. Reasonable dog owners keep their dogs off peoples property when walking just as responsible child owners keep their children out of other peoples gardens when walking. I don't know what it is about your situation Doug but my neighbourhood does not have the problem you describe of people walking their dogs on to your front lawn to crap. Dogs certainly crap on the grass verge outside my house and my dogs do outside other peoples. The shit, of course, gets picked up. However, and an important matter here, you or I or anyone else has no right (none whatsoever) to instruct someone not to allow their dog to shit on the grass verge. We can tell them to pick up the shit however. Just as you or I have no ability to tell a parent what their child can or can't do when walking along the footpath. Hope I have outlined that clearly for you. rob The bottom line, really, is that when I go out at night to look at the stars, that's what I want to do. I don't want to have to inspect the ground with a flashlight. I want to look up. The statement "I want to look at the stars" cannot be interpreted to mean "I want to spend 20 minutes scraping dog shit off my shoes". Doug, it may be the case that you want to go outside and look at the stars without stepping in dog shit. The situationI have outlined above solves that problem does it not. rob |
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How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"George.com" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "George.com" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... Reciprocal arrangements - I like that! Here's one: When dog owners license their little pets, they should be required to provide a DNA sample from the dog, and depost $1000.00 into an escrow account which we normal people can draw on when we need to have our carpets cleaned or replaced because your beasts crapped on our lawns. Now we're talking personal responsibility! Don't people take personal responsibility for protecting their own carpets by checking their own shoes when they come in from the garden (for mud, grass, water or oil, as well as dog dirt). ? Janet When I come home from "the outside world", of course I check my shoes, or more likely, remove them. On my own property, there is never spilled oil. If I'm gardening and it's muddy, I adjust my behavior. That's MY choice. Janet, you're a smart lady. Here's a statement: "I want to go outside at midnight, wander around my yard, look at the stars, and see if the moonflowers have opened". Please tell me what I said in that sentence. It's an exercise of sorts. First of all, we're talking about dogs on leashes, with people attached. Not strays - they are a separate issue that's easier to deal with. Onward: I *do* ask people not to stop their dogs on my grass, and I do so very politely. Unfortunately, some of them refuse to comply, which simply baffles me. Their logic is that the first 8 feet is "public property", which is completely untrue. The reality is that the town and the utilities have permanent easements which allow them to do certain types of construction or maintenance. As far as fences, two problems: First, you cannot erect a fence within that first 8 feet, so that leaves a pretty large area of property unprotected. And second, I can't afford a fence, nor should I have to. It's not for me to spend money in order to deal with other peoples' stupid behavioral problems. Doug, I will be honest but I am not doing so to antagonise you or overly antagonise you, I think you need to chill out a little, smoke some dope or whatever and not fixate so much on dog shit. I have clearly stated my approach to dog ownership and dog walking, it is a responsable approach. Other dog owners I know have the same standards, they are reasonable people. If you apply a test of reasonableness to my approach to walking mutts I think it will hold up well. Expecting people to pay $1,000 into an account for your carpets clearly is not reasonable. Either you are taking the **** or you are serious. If the former, I give you marks for cheekiness, if the latter then you fail the test of reasonableness. The state of your carpets are your responsibility. You can remove your shoes, you can buy a mat. You don't blame anyone else for your failure to check what you tramp in. Likewise, if you are clumsy enough to spill wine on your carpet you don't blame the maker of the glass for it being smooth or having a slender stem etc. Your choice, your responsibility. If my dog did, for some reason, crap on someones lawn I would take responsibility to remove it. My responsibility. Responsibilities, yours and mine. Reasonable dog owners keep their dogs off peoples property when walking just as responsible child owners keep their children out of other peoples gardens when walking. I don't know what it is about your situation Doug but my neighbourhood does not have the problem you describe of people walking their dogs on to your front lawn to crap. Dogs certainly crap on the grass verge outside my house and my dogs do outside other peoples. The shit, of course, gets picked up. However, and an important matter here, you or I or anyone else has no right (none whatsoever) to instruct someone not to allow their dog to shit on the grass verge. We can tell them to pick up the shit however. Just as you or I have no ability to tell a parent what their child can or can't do when walking along the footpath. Hope I have outlined that clearly for you. rob The bottom line, really, is that when I go out at night to look at the stars, that's what I want to do. I don't want to have to inspect the ground with a flashlight. I want to look up. The statement "I want to look at the stars" cannot be interpreted to mean "I want to spend 20 minutes scraping dog shit off my shoes". Doug, it may be the case that you want to go outside and look at the stars without stepping in dog shit. The situationI have outlined above solves that problem does it not. rob I think we're done here. |
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How to keep dogs off my container plants??
who ****ed in your corn flakes this morning????
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How to keep dogs off my container plants??
wrote in message oups.com... who ****ed in your corn flakes this morning???? Who are you asking? You edited away any trace of previous text. |
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How to keep dogs off my container plants??
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oups.com: who ****ed in your corn flakes this morning???? one of the neighbor's dogs, obviously. lee chickens really like corn flakes -- war is peace freedom is slavery ignorance is strength 1984-George Orwell |
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