There is a vacant lot adjoining my lot, and at the far end we are just now
seeing signs of moles/gophers. They are spreading into the lot, and I want
to stop them before they hit my lot. Any suggestions? I'd like to drive them
off, but I'll kill them if I have to - no holds barred, I won't have them
terrorizing my garden.

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There is a vacant lot adjoining my lot, and at the far end we are just now
seeing signs of moles/gophers. They are spreading into the lot, and I want
to stop them before they hit my lot. Any suggestions? I'd like to drive them
off, but I'll kill them if I have to - no holds barred, I won't have them
terrorizing my garden.


My guess on a first defence would be dig down, along the property
line, and have a barrier that extended maybe two or three feet
underground. Some gauge chicken wire, to block them when they
are tunnelling.


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There is a vacant lot adjoining my lot, and at the far end we are just now
seeing signs of moles/gophers. They are spreading into the lot, and I want
to stop them before they hit my lot. Any suggestions? I'd like to drive them
off, but I'll kill them if I have to - no holds barred, I won't have them
terrorizing my garden.



My guess on a first defence would be dig down, along the property
line, and have a barrier that extended maybe two or three feet
underground. Some gauge chicken wire, to block them when they
are tunnelling.



won't work - they have no problem moving above ground if necessary.
Might as well start thinking of a name for your new invisible pet.

Carl


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Yea I would name them
but if you want to get rid of them you have to get rid of what they eat

so try a grub remover

but really I would name them
you are lucky to have animals around

we have rabbits some people dont like them
but this is their home too so putting some wire around
the few plants they like to eat is not much trouble

when the benifit is I can look out in the yard and see a rabbit

Might as well start thinking of a name for your new invisible pet.

wrote:
Yea I would name them
but if you want to get rid of them you have to get rid of what they eat

so try a grub remover

but really I would name them
you are lucky to have animals around

we have rabbits some people dont like them
but this is their home too so putting some wire around
the few plants they like to eat is not much trouble

when the benifit is I can look out in the yard and see a rabbit


Might as well start thinking of a name for your new invisible pet.




There are good reasons to treat for grubs, but a mole's diet is 70%
earthworms. So, a well maintained property will have plenty of those and
be very inviting to a mole. Try searching this newsgroup for mole info.
They are extremely difficult to remove/kill.

Carl


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On Feb 13, 7:39 am, Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote:
wrote:
Yea I would name them
but if you want to get rid of them you have to get rid of what they eat

so try a grub remover

but really I would name them
you are lucky to have animals around

we have rabbits some people dont like them
but this is their home too so putting some wire around
the few plants they like to eat is not much trouble

when the benifit is I can look out in the yard and see a rabbit

Might as well start thinking of a name for your new invisible pet.

There are good reasons to treat for grubs, but a mole's diet is 70%
earthworms. So, a well maintained property will have plenty of those and
be very inviting to a mole. Try searching this newsgroup for mole info.
They are extremely difficult to remove/kill.

Carl

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I recommend complete surrender before they attack.
Terms could include:
lawn aeration and pest removal by the moles in exchange for
a few lawn scalps by the power mower.
Seriously, we have a major mole population here in this part of
Kentucky.
We fought them valiantly for years, traps, sprays, poison baits, gas
bombs etc. etc.
Bottom line,, we lost. Moles cannot be controlled in isolation.
You would need to gain support and cooperation from all your immediate
neighbors as
moles travel quite well overland.
Limiting food they find attractive also eliminates many beneficial
friends as well.
So around here we just stumble around the yard until June when the
moles get dormant and/or go deep underground in the summer heat.
A few trips with the riding mower and the yard starts levelling up
again.
My neighbors also roll their yards but I have not found that to be
necessary.
My lawn is "Darwinian" in nature but that is another story.
Good luck.

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Lucky Texan wrote:

wrote:
Yea I would name them
but if you want to get rid of them you have to get rid of what they eat

so try a grub remover

but really I would name them
you are lucky to have animals around

we have rabbits some people dont like them
but this is their home too so putting some wire around
the few plants they like to eat is not much trouble

when the benifit is I can look out in the yard and see a rabbit


Might as well start thinking of a name for your new invisible pet.




There are good reasons to treat for grubs, but a mole's diet is 70%
earthworms. So, a well maintained property will have plenty of those and
be very inviting to a mole. Try searching this newsgroup for mole info.
They are extremely difficult to remove/kill.

Carl

The common eastern mole eats a much, much higher percentage of grubs than
worms. The common western moles eat more worms than grubs. They all also
eat young slugs in spring & autumn.

Most moles want a VARIED diet and won't waste too much time tunneling
about in a lawn without a significant percentage of grubs. Unless they
have no choice for more varied feeding ground in unclaimed territories
(they're highly territorial & if they reach a certain density there'll be
a mole in just about every inhabitable location, unable to move to better
territory without getting beat up by another mole).

Moles can be very garden-friendly but I might have trouble tolerating a
Townsends, one mole can pile up twenty five or a hundred hills, it could
get really annoying. Smaller moles aren't quite that industrious. There's
usually only one at a time in any given area unless a female raising a
couple young.

Gophers are a whole nother show. They can like rabbits really eat up a
garden. But I'd be inclined to plant defensively & then give them feeding
stations away from anything sensitive, & enjoy watching them.

I've encouraged our squirrels for years so that by now they're very bold.
They're territorial too & usually there are only one or two in a given
area. But during the cold, cold, record cold winter there were five or six
visiting regularly, & they started digging bulbs. Annoying, but they'd
have to be a great deal more troublesome than that before I wouldn't like
them any more.

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sign....I don't have problems with rabbits, the occaisonal raccon or
'possum. They don't do much dammage, and they don't eat much. Even the
skunks aren't a problem, they leave my dog alone and don't spray near us.
It's just that when they walk past the bedroom window at
night...peeeyhyooooo!!! The odor of a skunk at close range is incredible. My
neighbor had some move into the crawlspace of his house, and he had to move
out for two weeks until they got rid of them and replaced the wood that got
sprayed...but I digress...

I just don't want my garden turned into a DMZ, and around here the
moles/gophers/whatever make a huge mess of things. They really ruin the
landscape when they move in.

wrote in message ...
Yea I would name them
but if you want to get rid of them you have to get rid of what they eat

so try a grub remover

but really I would name them
you are lucky to have animals around

we have rabbits some people dont like them
but this is their home too so putting some wire around
the few plants they like to eat is not much trouble

when the benifit is I can look out in the yard and see a rabbit

Might as well start thinking of a name for your new invisible pet.

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There is a vacant lot adjoining my lot, and at the far end we are just now
seeing signs of moles/gophers. They are spreading into the lot, and I want
to stop them before they hit my lot. Any suggestions? I'd like to drive
them off, but I'll kill them if I have to - no holds barred, I won't have
them terrorizing my garden.

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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:46:50 -0800, "Zootal"
wrote:

sign....I don't have problems with rabbits, the occaisonal raccon or
'possum. They don't do much dammage, and they don't eat much. Even the
skunks aren't a problem, they leave my dog alone and don't spray near us.
It's just that when they walk past the bedroom window at
night...peeeyhyooooo!!! The odor of a skunk at close range is incredible. My
neighbor had some move into the crawlspace of his house, and he had to move
out for two weeks until they got rid of them and replaced the wood that got
sprayed...but I digress...

I just don't want my garden turned into a DMZ, and around here the
moles/gophers/whatever make a huge mess of things. They really ruin the
landscape when they move in.

There is a product called Mole Med. It contains castor oil and you
can probably read more about it he

http://www.gardensalive.com/product....cd2=1171469836

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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:46:50 -0800, "Zootal"
wrote:

sign....I don't have problems with rabbits, the occaisonal raccon or
'possum. They don't do much dammage, and they don't eat much. Even the
skunks aren't a problem, they leave my dog alone and don't spray near us.
It's just that when they walk past the bedroom window at
night...peeeyhyooooo!!! The odor of a skunk at close range is incredible. My
neighbor had some move into the crawlspace of his house, and he had to move
out for two weeks until they got rid of them and replaced the wood that got
sprayed...but I digress...

I just don't want my garden turned into a DMZ, and around here the
moles/gophers/whatever make a huge mess of things. They really ruin the
landscape when they move in.

There is a product called Mole Med. It contains castor oil and you
can probably read more about it he

http://www.gardensalive.com/product....cd2=1171469836

I've used Castor oil that I purchased at a drug store. (Pricey) I've
dug holes and added battery power vibrators. I've placed milky spore
disease on my small lawn. I've stepped on their runs and installed a
spike trap. Twice killed one. I've got mole plants spurge. (SP?) . Still
they come.

I buy gutter guard and chicken wire to make physical barriers. I've
also placed tulips in wires boxes. Next step is broken glass as they are
bleeders. (Do not like the idea as it would most likely get me.)

Still end up pressing soil down about young trees. Makes me more
paranoid but slow death to so many young plants gets my attention.

I live in the woods and do not recommend planting any thing in a
straight line. (Bulbs)

Bill who is looking at garden catalogs still ).

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On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:18:56 -0500, William Wagner
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http://www.gardensalive.com/product....cd2=1171469836

I've used Castor oil that I purchased at a drug store. (Pricey) I've
dug holes and added battery power vibrators. I've placed milky spore
disease on my small lawn. I've stepped on their runs and installed a
spike trap. Twice killed one. I've got mole plants spurge. (SP?) . Still
they come.

I buy gutter guard and chicken wire to make physical barriers. I've
also placed tulips in wires boxes. Next step is broken glass as they are
bleeders. (Do not like the idea as it would most likely get me.)

Still end up pressing soil down about young trees. Makes me more
paranoid but slow death to so many young plants gets my attention.

I live in the woods and do not recommend planting any thing in a
straight line. (Bulbs)

Bill who is looking at garden catalogs still ).

It's funny how the people who want to kill things because of their
attachment to their turf and plants are also the ones with the most
problems with what you perceive to be pests. Moles are insectivores
and I don't think they eat bulbs. I could be wrong.

There is a product called Mole Med. It contains castor oil and you
can probably read more about it he

http://www.gardensalive.com/product....cd2=1171469836

Castor oil? I have a jug of castor oil that I use in model airplane engine
fuel. I wonder if I were to mix some with water and an emulsifier(lecithin?)
and spray it around if it would help?

It's funny how the people who want to kill things because of their
attachment to their turf and plants are also the ones with the most
problems with what you perceive to be pests. Moles are insectivores
and I don't think they eat bulbs. I could be wrong.

It's now what they eat that bugs me - it's the devestation they do to the
landscape and garden . That is why I tolerate racoons and skunks and
possums and neighborhood kids. Pests, yes, but they don't eat much, and
don't do much damage. But things that dig up the landscape is another
problem entirely.

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:43:41 -0800, "Zootal"
wrote:

There is a product called Mole Med. It contains castor oil and you
can probably read more about it he

http://www.gardensalive.com/product....cd2=1171469836

Castor oil? I have a jug of castor oil that I use in model airplane engine
fuel. I wonder if I were to mix some with water and an emulsifier(lecithin?)
and spray it around if it would help?


I believe the mixture would be 60% castor oil with 30% water and 10%
surfactant (baby shampoo, Dr. Bonners peppermint soap). Try it out.
You never know what will work for you.